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<jgart>
it's just a bit annoying but that's fine. I know what to do now
<jgart>
I've installed carbslinux successfully and gentoo before
<jgart>
but I forget all the details and might make mistakes
<jgart>
if I haven't done it in a while or practice it regularly
<acheam>
if you dont know how to do stuff like write an fstab file, or at least know how to find documentation on it, you'll probably run into other issues later
<noocsharp>
yeah, i just end of referencing the arch wiki
<acheam>
the trick is not knowing how to do it
<jgart>
It's fine I'll go back and retry
<acheam>
but rather, how to find help
<acheam>
and documentation
<noocsharp>
s/end of/end up/
<acheam>
^
<acheam>
cem: why does the carbs doc look like gnu lmao
<jgart>
acheam, I agree
<jgart>
acheam, texinfo?
<jgart>
ha
<acheam>
ugh I shouldnt have expected any better from an emacs user
<acheam>
carbs hurd when?
<acheam>
cem: did you get tired of writing "cat << EOF" in your post-installs
<noocsharp>
didn't realize today was the roast of carbs
<acheam>
just looking through the docs haha
<acheam>
for real though: carbs looks pretty cool
<acheam>
I like how the functinons are seperate
<acheam>
and the idea of ". carbs-lib"
<acheam>
wait is this all this takes to make a docker image?
<petrolblue>
Hello, I have a question about sound on KISS Linux. I installed alsa-utils and alsa-lib but alsamixer cant find my soundcard (https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/boqoratafe). I am guessing that I don't have the needed firmware built into my kernel, so if anyone knows how to add the missing firmware to the kernel it would be really appreciated! Thanks in advance..
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<sad_plan>
has anyone built tinyx before? im struggling to find a mising package. says package 'xfont', required by 'virtaul:world', not found
<sad_plan>
one would assume it might be libxfont2, but it appears to be not
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<soliwilos>
Maybe it's libxfont, not the 2 version, but rather 1.x
<sad_plan>
hm, I had an old one laying around, ill doublecheck
<sad_plan>
but yeah, maybe youre right
<sad_plan>
you were absolutely right. thanks alot :D
<soliwilos>
:)
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<acheam>
testuser[m]: at least it isnt that proprietary cloud terminal thing
<acheam>
testuser[m]: idk how I feel about that article
<acheam>
I write software for myself and myself only
<acheam>
If you choose to use it, thats fine, but I dont expect anything in return, but I also likely wont adapt software built for me to work better for you
<acheam>
but then again, I also dont develop anything nearly to the scale of the projects mentioned
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<bibliocar>
petrolblue: I recently faced a similar problem, but found that it worked fine if I was root. I still haven't gotten it straight on my machine, though.
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<bibliocar>
Ah, yes. Adding myself to the audio group worked fine.
<phoebos>
-S because maybe they should have some noise
<phoebos>
ssh
<phoebos>
shithub's download links are a pain with that
<dilyn>
they get rerouted through amazon's domain it's wonderful
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<Jeff27>
Hey, is there any guide online on how to make mdev / mdevd auto modprobe my drivers? (AMD GPU, Ethernet, Audio etc)
<acheam>
my guide is available in 3 words: don't use modules
<soliwilos>
Jeff27: Try adding '$MODALIAS=.* root:root 660 @modprobe -q -b "$MODALIAS"' to your mdev.conf
<acheam>
whats the point of doing this instead of just making your own list of what you need to modprobe?
<acheam>
not trying to attack, just curious
<jgart>
acheam, how do you make your own list?
<jgart>
acheam, how do you find out what that list consists of? steps?
<Jeff27>
soliwilos: thank you, ive tried that but it did not work for me sadly. Modprobing the gpu driver manually works (modprobe amdgpu) but Id like that to be done on boot, the same for other drivers (ethernet and such)
<Jeff27>
acheam: thanks for the suggestion, what is the easiest way to do that?
<soliwilos>
Jeff27: Configure your service manager/boot scripts to modprobe them during boot? How that is done depends on your setup.
<dilyn>
the shortest answer is 'this is why udev was made'. Probing modules on demand automatically is nonobvious
<noocsharp>
is there a reason you can't just build a static kernel?
<dilyn>
the longer answer is "use a service or some other thing done at boot because there's barely any overhead to loading modules"
<dilyn>
the better answer is "don't use modules"
<Jeff27>
So, building the firmware into the kernel should make them automatically start at boot?
<dilyn>
if you build the firmware into the kernel you should also build the module into the kernel
<dilyn>
and thus, yes they will always be present
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<Jeff27>
Thank you all, I am going to try this immediately
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<Guest3437>
Why did you set them as modules in the first place since you want to auto load them on boot?
<dilyn>
presumably for a smaller overall kernel
<dilyn>
it would decompress faster etc.
<Guest3437>
By that logic, wouldn't it be better to have everything as modules (as long as it doesn't interfere with boot) to achieve a smaller kernel?
<dilyn>
correct
<noocsharp>
in my experience static kernels boot faster
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<Guest3437>
I'm thinking of embedded systems, I wonder if this is a relevant use case for them.
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<Jeff42>
I have made compiled the kernel with firmware built-in this time and it still does not load automatically, image of CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE: https://imgur.com/mXFp9Fr
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<dilyn>
pretty sure you have to use all the polaris12_*.bin files
<dilyn>
actually perhaps not; it seems that my kernel is only loading the polaris12_{uvd,vce}.bin files...
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<tinker>
i know this is trivial, but also make sure to use the correct kernel when rebooting. i went through at least 15 kernel iterations before i realized i was testing with the same kernel the whole time.
<dilyn>
or remember to mount your /boot partition so you actually use the right kernel xD
<dilyn>
small things are so easy to miss smh
<Jeff42>
I cant believe I forgot to turn the amdgpu driver to built in in the kernel config -_-
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<cem>
Isn't it better and smaller to build a static kernel if it's for personal use only?
<cem>
Surely your kernel itself will be smaller when everything is a module, but your total size will be much larger
<cem>
Especially with out-of-tree modules such as zfs
<cem>
That's why I build zfs into the kernel statically
<Jeff42>
Hello again, Grub is stuck at "loading linux-version" with my custom kernel and I have 0 idea to why (I have tested the kernel of my host distro and it works fine). My .config: https://pastebin.com/Fma7EBuD
<Jeff42>
. Does anyone know why?
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<noocsharp>
are you loading the right kernel?
<Jeff42>
noocsharp yes, in /boot I only have 1 kernel binary
<noocsharp>
would you mind posting your grub config?