<SiFuh>
farkuhar: No, I asked them but they all said no. No joke, I stopped off at a friends home. Slept an hour. Drove home. Slept from when I arrived until 18:30. Slept again until 09:30. Whatever it was bloody hell.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: All day yesterday was completely fscked. No energy at all.
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<remiliascarlet>
Although I disagree on the term "reverse racism". If you discriminate based on the color of someone's skin, it's just racism. Stop applying double standards here!
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Agree
<zorz>
yes yes yes
<zorz>
python rules!
<zorz>
use some meson:P
<SiFuh>
No it doesn't
<zorz>
yes it does....
<zorz>
for my use
<SiFuh>
Retard code
<SiFuh>
[20 57 58] [zorz> SiFuh: bonjourrrrrrrrrr
<SiFuh>
I don't speak that language
<zorz>
SiFuh: bonjourrrrrrrrrrrrrr
<zorz>
:P
<SiFuh>
zorz: Learn to speak a real language like Goa'uld
<zorz>
i refuse!
<remiliascarlet>
Learn to speak a real language like C.
<zorz>
i dont need see
<zorz>
i am not a programmer
<zorz>
speaking of python, it sucks but yt-dlp, ffsubsync, subliminal, selenium, beautifulsoup.... are nice:P
<remiliascarlet>
Yes, yt-dlp is nice. The rest I don't care.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Hahaha I was thinking the same
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
since sucks, uninstall:P
<SiFuh>
I only have subliminal and yt-dlp. I use subliminal with mpv and maybe 40% it gets the right subtitles.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: By the way, are you enjoying the whole USAID vs DOGE situation?
<zorz>
i use subliminal so far gets the english okay, and then googletrans to change them in greek
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: In some ways. I think it is a nothing thing compared to what they are going to find out.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I just hope they survive long enough without assassination to be able to get to the bottom of the _REAL_ shit.
<zorz>
its full of gay dirt from hoover times
<SiFuh>
zorz: Why don't you just set subliminal to download Greek?
<zorz>
SiFuh: now i am watching this australian secret citt
<zorz>
city.
<remiliascarlet>
I took a look at what the fake news around the world say about it. American and European outlets talk about how it's a disaster for Ukraine. Japanese outlets mention some of the corruption, but also a little bit about Ukraine. Russian outlets mention the tip of the iceberg of corruption scandels. And Chinese outlets seem to block my IP address, so I can't verify them.
<SiFuh>
zorz: Secret City?
<zorz>
SiFuh: not always greek and second problem with the sync most of the time.
<zorz>
yes Secret City
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: Googletrans? Did Subliminal chop his dick off?
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Tip of the iceburg is not the idiom I'd use because it would imply that everything is connected from it. But it is not.
<SiFuh>
But I understand.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: hehehehe you ve been a bad bad girl
<zorz>
i will download it aswell... after the fire in LA, we will have delay in new movies:P
<SiFuh>
Why?
<zorz>
they are busy fixing their homes... home is priority
<SiFuh>
I downloaded Pushpa 2. I have been waiting for it since Pushpa 1 was released
<SiFuh>
zorz: No
<SiFuh>
Newsom said that you cannot rebuild and already has chosen the contracting company to take your land for what it is _NOT_ worth to build his Smart City.
<zorz>
ooooooooo
<zorz>
lie everywhere
<zorz>
the only truth... Trump.... plactic straws
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
actually this was good
<SiFuh>
Why not metal straws?
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
it can be weapon
<SiFuh>
I use metal strwas
<zorz>
paper straws, grosss!
<SiFuh>
zorz: Als can come in handy if you want to intubate someone in the throat or lung.
<zorz>
aaaaaa different story
<SiFuh>
Paper straws suck. I can't even finish a beer before it turns into recycle paper mush
<zorz>
why you drink your beers using straw??? so gay!
<SiFuh>
Because I can drink without a police officer seeing the can covered by hand. I can also drink on a bus and no one sees me lift the can because I don't need to. I can also finish every last drop of beer from the bottom of a can without any wasted beer because real men don't waste beer
<SiFuh>
I can put the can in my pocket and tilt my head to the pocket and drink a beer without even touching the can
<SiFuh>
So come on. I am a professional drinker
<zorz>
oooooooooo man! this is serious
<zorz>
heh
<zorz>
anyway.... going now.... later
<SiFuh>
The English idiom would be "There is always a method to my madness" But actually I prefer to just say "I am way more efficient than you are lead to believe"
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: China is Trump’s first problem, not EU – Macron... Huh? Who the hell listens to that lying mofo?
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I was discussing with a Danish man that Ukraine doesn't officially exist under UN law. Then the guy said I am wrong and pulled up the documentation from the talks. So I read them and said it is true, it doesn't exist. He said that I am wrong and then he argued with me while I sat drinking my beer thinking if had read it. The other day an EU politician said Ukraine doesn't exist and was
<SiFuh>
never ratified to exist. The Danish guy says "Let's not talk about this again". Not my problem he assumes every talk and conversation has a result. But hey. People.
<SiFuh>
if he had*
<SiFuh>
He was actually excited when I returned and asked me "Did you read it?" "Yeah I did, it was never ratified" and he lost it. "Why talk if nothing is resolved" "Err, politics?"
<SiFuh>
zorz: Secret City, 10 minutes in. That's how it operates here.
<SiFuh>
Here = Australia
<SiFuh>
farkuhar!!!!! I just rewound the entire three days in my head. I think I know who drugged me! 89% sure. If I am correct, thank goodness it wasn't methanol. But fsck, I am not a happy man now.
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<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I will go to blood test but I think, I flooded my system with so much ethanol it may not work
<SiFuh>
Maybe ppetrov^ knows about this thing
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: I was decimated for a long time. Over three days. I cannot even read signs. I thought at first Ritalin but after not being able to read, I was worried Methanol. So I drowned my system with Ethanol which seems to be working.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: What I am not concerned about is that I will get no reading because of the Ethanol I introduced. But what I am curious of is if any drug is detected
<SiFuh>
Which I doubt they can because of the ethanol. Better to be safe and drunk than die from Methanol 36 hours later.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: I replayed the last three days backwards in my mind. I am now 89% sure, who drugged me. So on the good side, it maybe isn't methanol. On the bad side. I don't know what the freaking hell I was given.
<ppetrov^>
fuck
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<farkuhar>
SiFuh: Glad to hear you were able to reconstruct the events leading up to your poisoning.
<farkuhar>
As for making an ISO for CRUX-MUSL 3.8, there's no need to wait for the core team to declare 3.8 finished. We can start building release candidate ISOs ourselves.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Back from clinic. 5 drug tests. Just stupid tests. Told them to do a deeper anylysis for MDMA and Methanol and take a blood sample for further tests
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: We? Cool, you want to help?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I asked to test for Methanol and MDMA after their stupid test for Opium, Heroin, Amphetamines, Ketamine and THC.
<SiFuh>
Here they treat every guy like they are a stupid fucking drug addict.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: In there list is no Ritalin.
<SiFuh>
I said don't check for Ethanol. I am full of it because if I took Methanol without my knowledge better to be drunk than dead. The Malay doctor said "Yes" Then my wife asks "You told him you drank a bucket load of Vodka?" I said "Yes, don't lie to your doctor." Then all I can think of was Doctor House MD
<SiFuh>
I am taught, you tell 100% truth to your doctor. NEVER LIE.
<SiFuh>
I said to the doctor, "I can name the 5 drugs you tested. All you had to do was ask me. But okay."
<SiFuh>
I know them all, and they are not what you needed to test me for. 470 MYR was that cost.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: We? Sure, the Gitea instance at crux.nu makes it easy to fork the system/iso repo and make changes on the existing 3.8 branch.
<farkuhar>
Then anyone who has a powerful enough machine can build the modified ISO themselves.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I thought about that. But at the same time, I wonder, can it be official if I release before them?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I want to find out what drug. Only two drugs left. Methanol and MDMA. No Ritalin on their list.
<SiFuh>
No Ritalin? WTF?
<farkuhar>
Nobody's expecting that the CRUX-MUSL iso will ever be granted "official" status, so it doesn't matter what your timeline is. Call it a release candidate if it makes you feel more comfortable.
<SiFuh>
I understand farkuhar but I would prefer it tobe released when it is official but sure, we can start
<farkuhar>
Note that the "official" system/iso repo already has a 3.8 branch, and that's what's being used for all the RCs published so far.
<SiFuh>
I saw
<farkuhar>
The 3.8 MUSL iso should be a lot easier because you aren't trying to include any xorg ports, just core and a few select ports from opt. Hence there's less testing that needs to be done, to ensure everything works well together.
<SiFuh>
Okay, we start maybe Wednesday.
<SiFuh>
I have an idea to use my 9front machine for building
<farkuhar>
frinnst's comments in #crux made me curious, though ... what's behind all these signify mismatches (rust) and build errors (qt6)? Are the other early testers of CRUX 3.8 hitting similar issues?
<SiFuh>
Romster was the rust guy
<SiFuh>
Didn't beerman take it over?
<farkuhar>
Rust is not one of those projects known for silently changing the tarball upstream, so if there's a signify mismatch, maybe beerman signed with the wrong key? I didn't think the signing keys were changed between CRUX versions (e.g., 3.7 -> 3.8).
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Once a tarball changed after Romster built the port. So not Romster's fault
<SiFuh>
Maybe beerman is too fast?
<farkuhar>
On CRUX-MUSL I cannot use the opt/rust port anyway, so I wouldn't have hit the signify issue that frinnst reported. And on my CRUX-glibc laptop, I don't even bother building rust from source, I just rely on rust-bin.
<SiFuh>
I don't remember building rust on MUSL anyway.
<SiFuh>
But I am sure there is a way thanks to Void Linux
<farkuhar>
emmett1 has a rust port for MUSL, but it's several versions out of date by now. I used it as a starting point to build the latest rust.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I will do the core list I provided. Once done, then I can look deeper into it but this is not even close to zero priority unless we make MUSL an offical version. But to do that, I will need a team. I will do anything extreme. As I said at 3.7. I plan to build your foundations only. You all build the rest. But I will be happy to at-the-least to have a look.
<farkuhar>
Using your 9front machine for building ... will that involve installing a virtual machine, with 9front as the host OS? Or will you set up dual-booting and dedicate some hard disk space to a native CRUX installation?
<SiFuh>
I will NOT do*
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I can kill it. I only use it for mess around. Nothing serious
<farkuhar>
Most ports in the official repos build without issue on CRUX-MUSL. Obviously special care is needed for the toolchains (gcc, llvm, clang, rust), and a few ports need additional #includes or light patching. Other than that, the overlay for CRUX-MUSL doesn't have to be very extensive.
<SiFuh>
My goal is the core ports.
<SiFuh>
They don't change so much
<SiFuh>
But the give everyone the base system they can build the MUSL project upon.
<farkuhar>
It was probably enough to test the CRUX-MUSL 3.7 ISO on a fresh install. But with 3.8, we might want to test also whether the ISO can handle upgrading from 3.7.
<SiFuh>
How?
<SiFuh>
You can't
<SiFuh>
You need to compile everything. No upgrade from ISO
<SiFuh>
Unless we create the ISO for MUSL
<farkuhar>
Not an upgrade from CRUX 3.7 (glibc), but an upgrade from CRUX-MUSL 3.7. Surely you anticipate that some users will take that path, rather than erasing their hard disks and installing from scratch?
<farkuhar>
But line 15 "Edit the setup script" is lacking in detail; you obviously patch it more extensively than the two subitems listed under it.
<SiFuh>
Makefile and setup are part of the ISO
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Not really. I erased all of the shit that a core system doesn't need.
<SiFuh>
When we do 3.8. I will make you a patch. It is actually quite simple.
<SiFuh>
VERSION="3.8 (MUSL)" remove all entries to xorg and edit the files that have xorg entries (Like delete them from the face of the Earth). Remove all refrences to files/ports needed for glibc. Add the shit needed for CRUX MUSL into core. Erase contents of opt except those in the list... Not hard. Just a small headache.
<SiFuh>
I should still ahve the 3.7 script. Maybe Wednesday, I can grab it for you and run a diff against it?
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Good, I have metal straws too.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I actually wanted to buy you a breast knife.
<farkuhar>
So for users who have an existing CRUX-MUSL 3.7, your ISO won't be a suitable upgrade path. Would you recommend that those users just change the sync files /etc/ports/*.{rsync,httpup,git} and perform an upgrade in-place?
<SiFuh>
It hangs like a necklace between your boobies. But can be accessed from under shirt.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: Why do I need that? I'm not a transformer.
<SiFuh>
I never had the chance to but it
<remiliascarlet>
Oh, that one.
<SiFuh>
Good thing I didn't because of the Japanese laws :-P
<remiliascarlet>
I thought you meant a knife to cut off my boobs.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: No way!
<SiFuh>
The handle faces down, towards your navel.
<SiFuh>
You can put your hand up your shirt and grab it.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: The concept is good, but the sheath needs to be heavily re-engineered.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: so your patches for the rc-scripts are lost forever? It would be nice to include those improvements when making the CRUX-MUSL 3.8 ISO.
<SiFuh>
Why would anyone even with AAA cup want that chunk of plastic pressing on their boobs?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I don't know about forever. I still have one other place that I can check. But the chances are high.
<SiFuh>
High as in lost forever. Because I know it was used and built for that laptop that died. Which I opened the other day only to remember I did a reinstall and never cared. But there is a small chance that entire machine has a backup.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I used that machine only for a flight simulator.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: The backup will need to be accessed from the CRUX machine that died. But I think it is only a power supply issue. But wednesday if I remember, I can try poking around to see if I can find it.
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: Tired of Git? Try SVN!
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I want to do CRUX MUSL on a machine with more modern power so I when we start, I can rip out all the old drives and see what I can poach whilst doing the builds
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Last time the build was suppose to take less than a day ended up taking a week.
<SiFuh>
Hey, remiliascarlet can speak English very well. Maybe she can be the translator for the Tokyo girl.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: In March a lady from Tokyo will come here to sell her products. I will introduce her to a business guy here. Hold on. I send you the email.
<remiliascarlet>
But speech sucks.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: What about the upgrade path for users of CRUX-MUSL 3.7? Would you recommend that they edit the sync files /etc/ports/*.{rsync,git,httpup} and perform an in-place upgrade, rather than booting from any ISO?
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: dpaste says it is spam
<remiliascarlet>
Sounds like dpaste needs to be DOGE'd.
<SiFuh>
It's not spam
<SiFuh>
zorz: Are you here?
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: Here you are?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: If I do an ISO build. Then it can be done from the ISO. You do a ports upgrade then you will need to self patch.
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: You are here?
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: I spam it here. Hold on.
<SiFuh>
I saw your email but decided not to reply even though I had already talked to my friend by phone. I had a plan to go to his office and talk to him directly. I went last week to visit his office. I am back at my home now and I have spoken to him and his staff about your idea. They know it isn't a big money job for them, but they are interested in your cosmetics. I told him that if you do come in March
<SiFuh>
and have some time, we can discuss more about it. Will you bring a translator or do you think you can explain what your plan is in English or Malaysian to them? I think your English is fine, myself. Also there were some questions, most of them I can answer, because I remember everything you had said. But we have one question that I cannot answer. Question: Will it be Japanese of 'Korean' cosmetics?
<SiFuh>
Because if so, I think you can do well here. Cosmetics are a very big business here, but you will need to make a mark! They said you need to be the best of the best Hope you are doing good. Will be cool to see you in March.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: No need for zorz anymore. He is like dunny paper. Here when you don't need him. Lost when you do.
<SiFuh>
Or a big bloody red back spider on the roll :-P
<remiliascarlet>
Maybe he'll get more efficient when he switches to SVN, and will go on for months without shutting the fuck up about how great SVN is, and that we should all try it.
<SiFuh>
HAHAHAHAHA
<farkuhar>
remiliascarlet: What aspects of git were so annoying to zorz, that he would start exploring alternatives like SVN?
<farkuhar>
Maybe if zorz had to work from behind a corporate firewall like ukky, there would be less incentive to switch away from git.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: You speed reading again?
<SiFuh>
zorz: Your Chinese Secret City sucks shit.
<SiFuh>
zorz: I will watch my mother's series instead.
<zorz>
i told you
<SiFuh>
That you suck?
<zorz>
your manners suck
<zorz>
:P
<SiFuh>
Yes
<zorz>
SiFuh: your 80 dollars are now 550:P
<SiFuh>
I told a rich lady last night. "Are you trying to flirt with me? You don't even have boobs!"
<SiFuh>
Everyone laughed
<SiFuh>
I felt bad afterwards
<SiFuh>
Very mean of me
<zorz>
yeah
<SiFuh>
Girls with no boobs are way more sexier
<SiFuh>
zorz: I feel bad for saying that to her.
<zorz>
to who?
<zorz>
boobs are nice
<SiFuh>
I don't like excuses but she is a stuck up self centred bitch who thinks she is perfect. But still. I should never had said it.
<SiFuh>
zorz: I met a girl like her in first grade of school. Vivian. What a bitch man.
<SiFuh>
"I'm important. Do you know if you count forever, you will come accross my name? It will be a number!"
<SiFuh>
zorz: "Put him on speaker, keep him talking" Yeah, do that to me. I will talk about blue coloured sausages and monkeys.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Something I was curious about
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: There was actually one thing the doctor said to me, I was very shocked by. He said "I know you are okay because you are talking to me right now". I turned to the wife and then back to him and asked "Methanol?" His he looked to me, his eyes opened wide and he lowered his head. Yeah he understands.
<SiFuh>
His he
<SiFuh>
He
<SiFuh>
he seemed to have forgotten that I had told him that I flooded my system with vodka to defeat methanol poisoning. If I made a miscacluation, it can still kill me more than 36 hours after.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I doubt he will find anything. 1) I think he is not the doctor he pretends to be 2) He doesn't care.
<SiFuh>
I found since 2015 (Being specific) Doctors are not what they were.
<SiFuh>
I just scrolled up. I don't think I have any friends here. :-P
<SiFuh>
Seems only me is talking.
<SiFuh>
Good thing I gave some of you channel op status. If I die, you can all forget me
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<zorz>
you should tell her i only like plastic boobs....
<zorz>
this is what i do
<zorz>
heh
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: some days the channel is like that. People aren't always around to respond right away, so it looks as if one person is carrying on a monologue.
<farkuhar>
zorz: Why are you thinking of switching to SVN anyway? Or are they just making a joke, taking your reputation for distro-hopping and generalizing to version control systems?
<zorz>
farkuhar... ofcourse not, never mention SVN