SiFuh changed the topic of #crux-social to: Offtopic Talks | Project https://crux.nu/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux-social/
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<remiliascarlet> Yen is at an all time low yet again, so I made an all time profit off my overseas customers again.
<SiFuh> Why? What is the reason for Yen being depressed so much?
<remiliascarlet> Yeah, makes no sense for me neither.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: where does emacs try to load tutorials from, when you go into help?
<remiliascarlet> I know that in both the US and EU life is getting crazy expensive due to hyperinflation, and yet the Yen is the one losing value.
<SiFuh> Maybe you should buy the Yen some flowers
<remiliascarlet> Cost of living have barely even changed over here.
<remiliascarlet> Maybe the most extreme inflation was that onigiri used to cost 120 yen back in 2022, and now it costs 130 yen.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Not sure for linux. In OpenBSD it is under /usr/local/share/emacs/29.1/etc/tutorials/
<farkuhar> Both the yenjie and the suwaports collections make an effort to delete 'junk' files like NEWS and README from their emacs ports. Does this lead to any breakage during runtime, or does emacs silently fall back to downloading tutorials from the net?
<SiFuh> farkuhar: /usr/share/emacs/28.1/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL
<remiliascarlet> There is something about "junk" files I don't really agree with, like the i18n related files.
<SiFuh> NEWS and README were of no value.
<farkuhar> I'm trying to modify lib/prtverify/30_junk_files.awk so that it doesn't issue a warning for any of ppetrov^s R modules.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: What about a flag? prtverify --readme
<SiFuh> or Junkfile found but ignoring.
<farkuhar> I worry that making a blanket exception for anything under /usr/lib (where R modules store their README and NEWS) will be too permissive, but so far the only "GNU" junk files I found are all under /usr/share.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: the problem with a command-line flag is that the unofficial portdb just runs prtverify with the default options, so ppetrov^s ports would still show up with a bright yellow WARN.
<SiFuh> What I meant is that prtverify ignores the README files unless you use the --readme flag
<SiFuh> Maybe a variable added to Pkgfile that prtverify reads. Like IGNORE_READMES=(README.md NEWS.md README NEWS)
<farkuhar> There's also the option of putting all the known exceptions into /usr/lib/prtverify/*.wl
<SiFuh> But shouldn't the maintainer have the ability to control the port though?
<farkuhar> Which reminds me, the whitelist needs to be updated for the latest versions of core ports.
<SiFuh> What about making it an INFO instead of a WARN?
<farkuhar> It's less of a breaking change to keep junk files as a WARN offense, but to make exceptions under paths that are known to be searched during runtime (like /usr/lib/R/library)
<farkuhar> That's why I asked about emacs, to see whether its tutorials followed a similarly predictable directory structure.
<remiliascarlet> Oh fuck, Helldivers 2 game out, and the woke is having a mental meltdown over it, because they are comparing bugs with Palestinians somehow which you need to kill.
<remiliascarlet> s/game/came
<DesRoin> That sounds... unreasonable
<SiFuh> find /usr/ports -name .footprint | xargs grep README.txt |grep "lib"
<remiliascarlet> That's because they are unreasonable.
<SiFuh> Seems a few ports have README files in lib
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Reminds me of Starship Troopers
<DesRoin> Great book
<DesRoin> Robert A. Heinlein was an amazing author, loved his "real" work more than ST though
<farkuhar> grep -lE "lib.*README\.(txt|md)" /usr/ports/*/*/.footprint | sort | uniq
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Show off ;-)
<farkuhar> The above command reports libgphoto2, ruby, and rust
<SiFuh> deepthought has a lazarus port
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<SiFuh> romster has a lbz3d
<SiFuh> And we can ignore Alan's ports
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Got recommended a video from a friend who is not a flat-earther but said the video was interesting. Then I saw it was 8 hours long!
<SiFuh> I have watched the first hour and this guy has no clue
<SiFuh> X server crashed an hour in. So I ain't going to watch anymore
<SiFuh> Idiot isn't even using the shifter (It is on the right) he is in automatic mode.
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<remiliascarlet> I'll watch when I have time to do so, because today I don't have much time.
<zorz_> ok
<zorz_> :-)
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<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: In the comments of that 2nd video: "Playing Mario Kart with this would be painful."
<remiliascarlet> Doesn't he realize that Mario Kart VR exists?
<remiliascarlet> And yes, just like every other VR game, Mario Kart VR is absolutely painful to play.
<remiliascarlet> Programmer eyes are typically optimized for dark themes, so VR headsets are painful.
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