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<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Actually, do you maybe know how to make OpenBSD not output dmesg messages whenever you turn off your monitor? I'm managing multiple OpenBSD servers using a KVM switch (which allows me to use 1 monitor and 1 keyboard for all servers connected to it), and I find it rather annoying that I can't see whether I'm logged in or not.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: Flat earth is always the type of psyop they insert to make any primarily right leaning resistance look stupid. In the same way as how they use "climate change" to make left leaning reistance look stupid.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I went full carnivore 2 months ago, and lost 20 kg so far. Diets tend to work if you either have only fat or only carbs, but if you have a lot of both, you'll gain weight since your body will store fat in reserves while using up carbs.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: "When I showed the photo of part of the room she was like a phone addict." Welcome to Asia.
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<SiFuh> Hehe
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Not sure about that OpenBSD question.
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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I was on two eggs and a palm size amount of meat one time per day and after a month, I had gained 9 KG. When I returned to my usual diet I dropped 8 KG
<SiFuh> And ever since I came to Malaysia I had gained 10 kilos in the first year and 10 in the third year
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Reminds me of Wajana. Many years ago when I worked for Khon Kaen University in Thailand. I was heading to my office from lunch and Wajana the secretary was looking at a photo. She was smiling at it, and tilting her left and right. So I asked what is it? She shows me the photo and asks "Pretty?" and it was a photo of herself she had just taken in a photo booth!
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<zorz> bonjoour
<SiFuh> Xin chào zorz
<zorz> SiFuh: Xin paint the room
<SiFuh> No, I am cleaning the floor and then maybe before midnight I will paint the architrave around the door. Also moving furniture around because I technically painted 2/3rds of the room already but shifting furniture around to access those walls.
<SiFuh> Basically like a sliding tile puzzle game
<zorz> its good, keeps you busy
<SiFuh> I think it upsets the plants I have in my room since they need sunshine. So I have been doing the paint at night and sleeping throughout the entire day so they can get sunshine undisturbed
<zorz> lsof -i -N -p
<zorz> lsof: no process ID specified
<zorz> ???
<zorz> what happened, what did they changed
<zorz> lsof -nP -iTCP -sTCP:LISTEN
<zorz> ok
<zorz> SiFuh: do you have lsof in openbsd ?
<SiFuh> No
<zorz> lsof is good
<SiFuh> fstat
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I have 1 beef tight + minced pork/beef mixed in with 4 eggs, total amount of meat is about 1 kg a day. And I keep losing weight, and don't get hungry.
<remiliascarlet> Make sure your meat is fatty, because you won't survive on lean cuts of meat.
<SiFuh> I only cook with fat
<SiFuh> Even my survival food pemmican is just fat and meat
<remiliascarlet> Libreddit instances are so unreliable nowadays, it took me going though 12 different instances to find one that works.
<zorz> aha fstat
<remiliascarlet> "the easiest way to avoid seeing it is probably to switch to a different vt (ctrl-alt-f2)." Nice, that did the trick!
<zorz> let me spam the channel
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: It's what I usually do
<SiFuh> zorz: checkout systat and use arrow left and right
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I don't.
<zorz> lsof -n -i -P works
<zorz> ipif() {
<zorz> if grep -P "(([1-9]\d{0,2})\.){3}(?2)" <<< "$1"; then
<zorz> curl ipinfo.io/"$1"
<zorz> else
<zorz> ipawk=($(host "$1" | awk '/address/ { print $NF }'))
<zorz> curl ipinfo.io/${ipawk[1]}
<zorz> fi
<zorz> echo
<zorz> }
<zorz> bash rulez!
<zorz> i need to write one for ipchicken.com
<zorz> hahaha
<remiliascarlet> Why are so many of these "what's my IP" type of websites so horribly bloated anyway?
<zorz> ipif 45.139.212.184
<zorz> 45.139.212.184
<zorz> {
<zorz> "ip": "45.139.212.184",
<zorz> "hostname": "45-139-212-184.cgn.thes.cosmote.net",
<zorz> "city": "Athens",
<zorz> "region": "Attica",
<zorz> "country": "GR",
<zorz> "loc": "37.9838,23.7278",
<zorz> "org": "AS6799 Ote SA (Hellenic Telecommunications Organisation)",
<zorz> "timezone": "Europe/Athens",
<zorz> }
<zorz> SiFuh: where is this systat ?
<SiFuh> OpenBSD
<zorz> hahahha
<zorz> remiliascarlet: help!!!
<zorz> remiliascarlet: fastcgi_pass unix:/run/php/phpX.X-fpm.sock; # Replace X.X with your PHP version
<zorz> remiliascarlet: in crux i dont get this sock file
<zorz> i need to find jue.
<zorz> i checked the rc.d script it has it disabled
<zorz> most probably... they are set for apache
<zorz> SiFuh: nginx server rulez russian technology
<SiFuh> Don't let ukky hear that ;-)
<zorz> why ?
<zorz> truying servers yesterday,,, i installed for a moment lighttpd from df ports... from all other ports he did not only have init script he has and a post install, great
<zorz> so i am goin to start daemon
<zorz> could not find /usr/sbin/lighttpd lol
<zorz> i did not linked it... i stick with nginx
<zorz> i gnored footprint i changed the compilation
<zorz> i added mysql ldap
<zorz> ignored footprint andsinatures cause i chaged thecompilation
<remiliascarlet> zorz: That's Debian. Use the path I gave you in the DM yesterday.
<remiliascarlet> Oh wait, that was MySQL.
<zorz> yes
<zorz> now we talk for nginx
<zorz> remiliascarlet: i do have the nginx server working ... now i need to set it up for php
<SiFuh> So is apache not a thing anymore?
<SiFuh> Or that zope webserver?
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Open /etc/php/php-fpm.d/www.conf in the text editor of choice, replace "listen = 127.0.0.1:9000" with "listen = /var/run/php-fpm.sock", and restart php-fpm.
<remiliascarlet> The socket should appear in /var/run/php-fpm.sock.
<zorz> i did that
<zorz> look what it gives me
<remiliascarlet> I would with OpenBSD's httpd and relayd would come available in Linux.
<remiliascarlet> Those tools are awesome!
<remiliascarlet> s/with/wish
<zorz> remiliascarlet: fuck u r good, last night i was tired and i replace listen = /var/run-something-bullshit
<zorz> remiliascarlet: but i get "php-fpm.sock = "
<zorz> its empty
<remiliascarlet> Yes, that's correct.
<remiliascarlet> Sockets aren't files.
<zorz> ok
<zorz> lets try again
<remiliascarlet> Spin up a Debian VM, install php-fpm on it, and verify there.
<zorz> guys seriously, i woke up this morning and i was thinking running openbsd i wouldnt have this problems.
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I like OpenBSD's unwind. I want that on Linux
<zorz> but again openbsd no driver support for intel ax210 iwlwifi
<SiFuh> Change the Wi-Fi card then
<remiliascarlet> There's so many reasons to prefer OpenBSD over anything else on servers.
<zorz> yes on the laptop... i installed it with usb stick wifi lol
<zorz> haha
<remiliascarlet> Although for a NAS I prefer FreeBSD, because OpenBSD is too slow for that job.
<zorz> i had a very old wifi stick 12 years +
<SiFuh> zorz: my Wi-Fi card isn't supported either. But I am on a wired network so I don't care
<remiliascarlet> CRUX for desktop, PostmarketOS for phones.
<zorz> postmarketos or grapheneos ?
<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: I am using an OpenBSD machine as a File Server.
<SiFuh> Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7921K (RZ608) Wi-Fi 6E 80MHz
<zorz> remiliascarlet: daniel micay of grapheneos disappeared
<remiliascarlet> GrapheneOS is degoogled Android, PostmarketOS is PostmarketOS.
<zorz> postmarket is alpine
<remiliascarlet> And Alpine is Linux, without GNU.
<zorz> yes
<zorz> i dont know if i can get android apps like bank app on postmarketos
<SiFuh> zorz: Did he dissappear with the creator of Void Linux?
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: I'm using FreeBSD with the ZFS filesystem on a NAS, put a web based service on OpenBSD, and they're linked together via NFS.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: "i dont know if i can get android apps like bank app on postmarketos" Obviously, the answer is no.
<zorz> he wrote something about pressure and people harassing him, bulling etc etc and he vanished.
<SiFuh> I've no issue with OpenBSD as an NFS server. It performs fine for what I do
<zorz> guys i stick with crux.
<SiFuh> In Soviet Russia, CRUX sticks with you.
<remiliascarlet> In Soviet Russia, south is (Trump's voice) CHINA.
<SiFuh> https://dpaste.com/5RQ4NKF3Y.txt I found a cool joke
<remiliascarlet> zorz: "i was thinking running openbsd i wouldnt have this problems." Just see it that way: it's a learning experience.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: ofcourse what matters is the trip not the destination :-)
<remiliascarlet> "In Soviet Russia, south is (Trump's voice) CHINA." Which reminds me of this: https://files.catbox.moe/sa9my8.jpg
<zorz> guys what is this haiku thing?
<remiliascarlet> A form of peom.
<SiFuh> He can take him to court for putting his details up online
<zorz> ./urlview rulez!
<remiliascarlet> Osvald is in Brazil, Dangote is in Nigeria. Good luck either way.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: SERVICES=(lo wlan dbus crond chronyd mariadb nginx php-fcgi php-fpm)
<zorz> remiliascarlet: do i need the ph-fcgi service ?
<remiliascarlet> If you don't use it, you don't need it.
<zorz> off
<zorz> remiliascarlet: u know why SiFuh loves OpenBSD ?
<SiFuh> Because it works
<dlcusa> My favorite Haiku: Yesterday it worked. Today it doesn't. Windows is like that.
<remiliascarlet> It works for me, therefore it doesn't work for you.
<zorz> SiFuh loves OpenBSD cause when he is drunk sees everything in SlowMotion!
<zorz> this DigitalOcean has some nice tutorials, pity they banned me cause i installed xmring to my account.
<remiliascarlet> FBI just owned Dangote.
<SiFuh> Yeah, I saw that
<dlcusa> remiliascarlet, for some value of works, no doubt. Or have you never experienced a BSOD?
<remiliascarlet> DigitalOcean has nice tutorials, yes. Too bad many of them are outright useless if you don't run Debian.
<zorz> remiliascarlet: hahahaha its always debian.
<remiliascarlet> dlcusa: The most I used Windows was maybe a few minutes or so, so how would I possibly have experience with BSOD?
<SiFuh> Neighbour is telling us to lock our cars at home because someone stole from inside her car a canister of coins and a box of coupons. Heh, I doubt that happened here. I hear everything
<dlcusa> No one expects seven nines of availability from a Windows box.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Another one with good tutorials that are sadly Debian-only: https://landchad.net/
<zorz> SiFuh: one good thing living in Saudi its the law, u steal hand gets cut - quite straight forward.
<dlcusa> Then clearly you do not expect much work from Windows.
<SiFuh> Besides, I was painting the window sill and the wall around the window last night. And I can see her car from the window.
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: If you don't lock your car, you can open its doors.
<SiFuh> When I go jungle I usually lock the keys in the car so they don't get lost.
<remiliascarlet> In Africa, your weight depends on how heavy you are.
<SiFuh> I wasn't joking about locking the keys in the truck
<dlcusa> SiFuh, you certainly know how to bypass the locks.
<zorz> SiFuh: u know if you put a small fire underneeth a specific are of a car and you heat the element the car gets unlocked ? :PPp
<SiFuh> I use to be a locksmith in the late 90's and in the year 2000
<dlcusa> "The more complicated the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
<zorz> plumbing it is especially when it has to do with womans hydraylics:P
<dlcusa> remiliascarlet, you'll experience a BSOD when your luck runs out unless you never use Windows again.
<remiliascarlet> Technically, I never used Windows to begin with.
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<remiliascarlet> Didn't like that?
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<remiliascarlet> dlcusa: Sorry for hurting your feelings.
<SiFuh> Heh
<zorz> piece brothers, Beatles Imagine
<zorz> SiFuh: ix.io is down ?
<SiFuh> I don't know
<zorz> it is
<zorz> no ping response either
<SiFuh> jaeger must have spammed it
<zorz> hahahahaha
<zorz> i need to post the config of nginx and php-fpm so remilia scarlet can have a look
<SiFuh> dpaste.com
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Make sure you censor out your password this time.
<zorz> never mind... this is a testing password
<remiliascarlet> How horny!
<SiFuh> But it is the same password you use for your online banking
<remiliascarlet> And your OnlyFans.
<zorz> and centerfold.com
<remiliascarlet> SiFuh: In case you don't know, OnlyFans is basically a social media for women stripping in front of their cameras, and men simping for them.
<SiFuh> I have heard of such a thing but I have no interest in it to be honest.
<SiFuh> Isn't the only difference between that site and the other cam girl sites is that you can actually find them near by and meet them and what-not?
<remiliascarlet> The only difference is that OnlyFans is seen as a full time job, and the others as spam.
<remiliascarlet> Like back in 2006 with all those "webcam babes" spambots in YouTube comments.
<zorz> get married with a woman from onlyfans, brings income in home :PPp
<remiliascarlet> Women who bring income expect to get married, and then they send divorce papers after they've sucked you dry.
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<remiliascarlet> zorz: One problem with your configurations.
<remiliascarlet> What do you want help with?
<zorz> ?
<zorz> the webserver is working
<zorz> i have an index.html it loads fine
<remiliascarlet> How about index.php?
<zorz> but when i do index.php fill is not found
<zorz> test.php file is not found
<remiliascarlet> Well, of course.
<zorz> enlighten me please
<remiliascarlet> #fastcgi_index index.php;
<remiliascarlet> #fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME /scripts$fastcgi_script_name;
<remiliascarlet> #include fastcgi_params;
<remiliascarlet> #location ~ \.php$ {
<remiliascarlet> # proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1;
<remiliascarlet> #}
<remiliascarlet> These are all commented out.
<zorz> aha
<zorz> wait
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHA
<zorz> i commented out, restart
<remiliascarlet> Dude, these already were commented out, you should have removed the comments, not comment out the commented out lines!
<zorz> but now does not load anything, tries to load
<zorz> wait
<remiliascarlet> I don't run any PHP scripts anymore these days on any of my personal projects, I got way more productive with Go for web development.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: Before restarting, make sure you verify the config file using `nginx -t` to avoid the Nginx service to go like "SAPRISE MADDAFAKKA!!".
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<zorz> remiliascarlet: i know that..... i did it 50 times from yestarday
<zorz> it does not load maybe i change the proxy_pass to localho
<zorz> it does not load maybe i change the proxy_pass to localhost
<remiliascarlet> Instead of that, try changing to 127.0.0.1:9000.
<remiliascarlet> No need to change 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 with a fancier looking name.
<zorz> not posible
<zorz> Sorry, the page you are looking for is currently unavailable.
<zorz> Please try again later.
<zorz> i am going to find logs
<zorz> 2023/12/04 04:46:32 [error] 4152#0: *1 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client: 127.0.0.1, server: localhost, request: "GET /test.php HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://127.0.0.1:9000", host: "localhost"
<zorz> maybe i need php-fcgi runing
<remiliascarlet> php-fcgi is unnecessary.
<remiliascarlet> One thing I overlooked is the fact you have 2 `location ~ \.php$` blocks, and Nginx will run whichever comes first.
<zorz> # /etc/rc.d/php-fcgi: start/stop FastCGI php daemon
<zorz> PID=/var/run/php-fcgi.pid
<zorz> PORT="127.0.0.1:8000"
<zorz> it runs at 8000
<zorz> we listen at 9000
<zorz> ok
<zorz> let me go out for a cigarette bb
<remiliascarlet> This is one of the many reasons why I prefer Go over PHP. In Go you just compile source code to a static binary, put it in /usr/local/bin, make a custom rc script, and then manage it with relayd.
<remiliascarlet> Or you make the Go program run on port 443, and cut out the entire relayd step.
<remiliascarlet> And only configure httpd to redirect http to https.
<remiliascarlet> No wait, you still need relayd to handle SSL certificates. My bad.
<remiliascarlet> zorz: "let me go out for a cigarette" (-。-)y-゜゜゜
<zorz> ssl certificates for localhost???
<remiliascarlet> SSL certificates for websites running on port 443.
<remiliascarlet> Please read.
<zorz> ok
<zorz> remiliascarlet: we are in the right way now i do http://localhost/index.php and downloads the page lol
<zorz> hahahaha
<zorz> hahahaha
<SiFuh> http://ΡʹΚʹΖʹ.𐆊.𐆊.Αʹ/index.php
<zorz> 502 Bad Gateway
<zorz> nginx/1.25.3
<zorz> almost there
<zorz> 2023/12/04 17:33:11 [crit] 22121#0: *1 connect() to unix:/var/run/php-fpm.sock failed (13: Permission denied) while connecting to upstream, client: 127.0.0.1, server: localhost, request: "GET /index.php HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://unix:/var/run/php-fpm.sock:", host: "localhost"
<zorz> got it
<zorz> now its only a permision problem
<zorz> ==================BitchX======================
<zorz> [~]# firefox
<zorz> Running Firefox as root in a regular user's session is not supported. ($XAUTHORITY is /home/xyz/.Xauthority which is owned by xyz.)
<zorz> [~]#
<SiFuh> Running firefox as root is insanity
<SiFuh> Even as a normal user firefox is scary. OpenBSD set up unveil so that firefox can't access most things.
<dlcusa> DANGER! DANGER! Will Robinson!
<zorz> man i just need to try nginx localhost permissions
<SiFuh> lynx ;-)
<zorz> firefox-esr debian school
<zorz> SiFuh: debians school is simple w3m, firefox-esr, vim-nox, rxvt-unicode, urlview, fluxbox
<zorz> aaa and slim
<SiFuh> lynx firefox-esr rxvt-unicode emacs fluxbox MidnightCommander and xdm :-P
<zorz> i agree
<zorz> the compilation of rxvt-unicode and vim-nox in debian are good
<zorz> i used to be like tha
<zorz> i used to be like that
<SiFuh> Question, zorz what is with the double printed lines?
<zorz> ?
<zorz> ahhh
<zorz> i missed the (t) lol
<zorz> haha
<zorz> its easier to press up-arrow and enter
<SiFuh> But it happens a lot, sometimes even the exact same sentence
<zorz> than to type.
<SiFuh> 61 minutes ago you repeated 'hahahaha'
<SiFuh> Or maybe that was 59 minutes ago
<zorz> SiFuh: personnal view if u spent time to setup fluxbox with tint2, u get the best dektop experience.
<SiFuh> What's wrong with what fluxbox already has?
<zorz> eye candy
<zorz> mx-linux has nice ready to use settings.
<zorz> mx-linux fluxbox
<zorz> ready configuration files :PPpp
<SiFuh> Didn't like MX Linux
<zorz> mx-linux ubuntu devuan etc etc.... are just a debian.
<zorz> MX Linux is fucked up Greek made.
<zorz> Greeks are only good in commerce and blabla
<zorz> hahaha
<zorz> if you do an installation of debian before you finish, before installing the bootloader you open the shell and you type 'apt install sysvinit-core pam-elogind' / you get rid of systemd libsystemd and you have a sysvinit debian fully fuctioning.
<zorz> elogind-pam
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<zorz> remiliascarlet: i think i solved it
<zorz> remiliascarlet: FastCGI sent in stderr: "Unable to open primary script: /var/www/html/info.php (Permission denied)
<SiFuh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmIt2dIE4k Richard Hammond teaches his daughter how to rally a Subaru!
<zorz> SiFuh: have u seen topgears episode on the frozen lake audi mercedes and subaru
<zorz> subaru is the perfection.
<zorz> the old imprezza
<SiFuh> Lancia Delta Integrale HF series evolution 1 from 1988 is perfection
<zorz> 911 gt3 touring from 2023 is perfection. (manual gear box)
<SiFuh> Bahahahahahaha, the niece wants to hear a ghost story. I asked her why and she says she likes scary stories. I said that is cool, I'll go sleep next door at your grandparents place and you can sleep in my house alone all night with our house' ghost. She ran out of my house pretty fast. Never seen such a scared look on her before. Guess she doesn't like scary stories.
<zorz> la la llalalala lalalalalalalalalala
<zorz> PHP Version 8.2.13
<zorz> System Linux gbox 6.1.62 #8 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 24 18:18:05 EET 2023 x86_64
<zorz> Build Date Dec 4 2023 19:08:06
<zorz> Build System Linux gbox 6.1.62 #8 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 24 18:18:05 EET 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux
<zorz> Configure Command './configure' '--prefix=/usr' '--sysconfdir=/etc/php' '--localstatedir=/var' '--with-config-file-path=/etc/php' '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/etc/php/conf.d' '--with-zlib' '--with-external-pcre' '--disable-static' '--disable-debug' '--without-sqlite3' '--without-pdo-sqlite' '--without-pear' '--enable-fpm' '--disable-cli' '--with-fpm-user=www' '--with-fpm-group=www'
<zorz> lalalalalal lalalalalala lalala
<zorz> SiFuh: done!!!!
<SiFuh> Done what?
<zorz> the server
<zorz> remiliascarlet: was going the wrong way.
<SiFuh> How long is this movie? Oh 02:18:38
<SiFuh> As Good as it Gets (1997)
<zorz> amazing movie
<zorz> when they ask Jack what is a woman?
<SiFuh> How do you write women so well? I think of a man and I take awa reason and accountability. HAHAHA
<zorz> and Jack says well I see of a man I take out responsibility etc etc
<zorz> lol
<SiFuh> awa/away*
<zorz> hahaha
<SiFuh> The sceen when the bald guy was yelling at him at the start of the movie, then later Jack is yelling at the detective and using the exact same speech the bald guy used.
<SiFuh> scene*
<zorz> iam telling.... this is Cinema!
<zorz> iam tellin you
<SiFuh> I like it
<SiFuh> I think I have seen it before though
<SiFuh> I am remembering some scenes
<zorz> when u r young u cant appreciate movies like this one.... everybody liked terminator instead lol
<zorz> another nice movie is Jack Nickolson, Morgan Freeman that they are about to die... and they do crazy things.
<SiFuh> Yeah I remember the people all talking about it. All I cared about was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) hah
<SiFuh> I am getting the feeling that she is going to be the same as the dog
<SiFuh> Hehehe, everything laid out neatly and a pen and paper with a check list. I do that
<zorz> iam all set, now iam just missing to add in putana config socket configuration
<SiFuh> Bitch config?
<SiFuh> When he introduces Carol to Simon is awesome
<zorz> Perfecto!!! ... like the leather jackets of SchottNyc
<zorz> finish all set.
<zorz> now i can continue my web development
<zorz> SiFuh: you know that yestarday and today i start using again the old good ranger. previews with bat highlighting of python are amazing.
<zorz> ranger works out of the box.
<SiFuh> I don't know what that is
<zorz> u only have to do pip install ranger --user.
<zorz> but i forgot yyou are on CRUX you cant use pip :PPPppp
<SiFuh> Why 'pip install ranger --user' ?
<SiFuh> Are you running the command as root?
<zorz> did not know if had dependancies
<zorz> if a programa with pip installs its dependancies... and after you install a crux package with a python dependancy.... you messed up the system.
<SiFuh> But I don't do that
<zorz> and many linux programs, have python dependancies.
<SiFuh> My CRUX machine just runs X-Plane 11 and Virtual Machines
<SiFuh> Doesn't even have a browser installed.. well except lynx
<zorz> if a linux distro spends time to incorporate all python programs through pip, will be better off.
<SiFuh> I kind of agree. That way I can keep it at the user level and NOT system wide
<zorz> but againe linux distro packagers care only for the looks.
<zorz> instead of incorporating manually pip programs to distro, the shoould incorporate pip to work with the package manager
<zorz> problem solved.
<SiFuh> Agree
<zorz> this will be a good linux distro.
<SiFuh> Tell that in #CRUX. Haha
<zorz> ooo haha
<SiFuh> Would be cool to what they think
<zorz> so far jue and jaeger.... nice staff.
<SiFuh> As long as I have known them yes
<zorz> and beerman too, amazing the pulseaudio works out of the box
<zorz> but beerman to much wayland.
<zorz> wayland sucks.
<SiFuh> Development on wayland may be kickstarted by Fedora
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<zorz> SiFuh: to build and install pulseaudio from scratch sucks... and beerman fuckin nailed it.
<SiFuh> No idea, don't use it
<zorz> of course, from systemd u go to wayland, bypass the kernel :-)
<zorz> thats fedora lol
<zorz> never used it
<zorz> never in my life rpm packages, fedora and suse.
<SiFuh> I uses SuSE before it was OpenSuSE did some work for them too
<SiFuh> Scientific Linux is the only Redhat Linux I ever used
<zorz> germans, debian suse
<zorz> i wonder if japanesse where taking linux seriously, together with germans.... ooo holly shit!
<lavaball> you called?
<SiFuh> Sorry wrong number ;-)
<lavaball> i heard german.
<lavaball> is debian german though? i know abuot suse and manjaro.
<SiFuh> I doubt it
<SiFuh> Although I thought Ian Murdock should have been in the band Rammstein
<lavaball> i need work ethics.
<lavaball> like actually doing something.
<SiFuh> It's snowing there right? Who wants to work in the snow and cold?
<lavaball> i was talking making videos.
<lavaball> i have everything laid out. i literally just have to record this bitch.
<lavaball> just don't feel like it.
<lavaball> let's hope i get to the blood test tomorrow on time.
<SiFuh> Sounds like me :-P
<lavaball> ends at 10. i usually wake up at 11:30.
<SiFuh> Not the blood test though
<zorz> lavaball: lots of programmaers in debian are germans... thats why they promote and take care programs like rxvt-unicode
<lavaball> i'll allow it.
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