#commonlisp on 2023-07-26 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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14:13 <GnarledHorn> Does anyone have a good mnemonic device to remember the difference between an alist and a plist? I can never remember which is a list of cons cells and which is a list of alternating keys and values

14:13 <GnarledHorn> I end up hitting the search engines every time :(

14:16 <Demosthenex> GnarledHorn: alist is cons cells, plist is alternating key/vallue

14:16 <Demosthenex> i use the simplifed CL reference alot, but it doesn't show that

14:16 <Demosthenex> wonder if there's a good double sided crib sheet somewhere

14:16 <beach> Demosthenex: That is hardly a mnemonic.

14:18 <beach> How about "alist is not alternating, plist is not pairs"

14:18 <edgar-rft> Property lists are Plain lists, both begins with P.

14:18 <Demosthenex> beach: i don't have a mnemonic to offer, only the reference i use often ;]

14:18 <hayley> "alist ain't alternating"

14:18 <GnarledHorn> Hey those are some good suggestions. I like the "property lists are plain lists" - I'll try and remember that one

14:19 <GnarledHorn> and "alists ain't alternating" of course! Alliteration ftw

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14:25 <Demosthenex> cute!

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15:51 <GnarledHorn> Given a class object (from find-class), how can I get the initform of a ":class" allocation slot? I'd prefer not to instantiate a bogus instance to get the value

15:52 <beach> mop class-prototype

15:52 <beach> ::mop class-prototype

15:52 <Colleen> Class-prototype http://metamodular.com/CLOS-MOP/class-prototype.html

15:52 <ixelp> class-prototype

15:52 <beach> GnarledHorn: You already have a class prototype that you can use for that.

15:53 <GnarledHorn> - will read, thank you !

15:53 <beach> Pleasure.

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