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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> How can I manually make a bootable image for rk3399 device? I am using the kernel, dtb, u-boot Deb package from the Armbian build.
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> My rootfs is custom one.
<CRCinAU> heh - I'm stuggling with the rk3399 too - but the Face-rk3399 one
<CRCinAU> just trying to use their provided ubuntu image first......
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<Myron> help
<ArmbianHelper> Check out our awesome documentation! It's tremendous, promise! https://docs.armbian.com/
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> well then, updating uboot might be a bit tougher than hoped 😄
<[TheBug]> What are you breaking now Tony?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> tinkerboard is on 2018 u-boot, was seeing what broke to 2021
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> we didn't update it for a very long time 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> they added support to u-boot is the problem 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> yeah and the UMS stuff changed
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> they have an "S" and a normal tinkerboard defconfig
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> usual u-boot stuff 😄
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<Armbian-Discord> <e​rtw> Hello, I'm looking to understand a bit better how general configuration works, and specifically how best to configure my USB otg port. I am using a Banana Pi Zero, and after much searching, I finally figured out how to set the USB port in host mode: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/13963-buster-image-on-banana-pi-pro-host-mode-activation-of-the-usb-otg-port/ What I'm wondering is if there is an easier way to do this, an
<Armbian-Discord> can set this in a more declarative way so that I don't loose the config on system updates.
<[TheBug]> just keep a copy of the dtb somewhere and make sure to place it back on upgrade over the one from package
<[TheBug]> I assume thats what you are reffering to, I havent checking that link
<[TheBug]> but I can guess from context
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> easy way is if overlay exits
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> so you can enable / disable that feature via armbian-config -> system -> hardware
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i don't know if we have overlay for this or not
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<pablocastellanos> Hi
<Armbian-Discord> <e​rtw> Oh awesome, I hadn't known about armbian-config. It looks like it doesn't have the overlay I'm looking for, but great to know about for the future. 👍
<Armbian-Discord> <e​rtw> (The board I'm using isn't officially supported, it's just the most economical I've been able to find)
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yeah, those are all the same, just different package
<pablocastellanos> I'm using Armbian_20.11.3_Pinebook-a64_buster_legacy_5.4.82_desktop, and no more updates are available, it is dead?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> you can voolonteer for becoming an official maintainer perhaps 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> pablocastellanos: no, this means you probably don't read news 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> but it should be updates
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: Nope, which news? LOL
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> we have dropped legacy on that branch i think some time ago
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: I assume it's no longer possible to build an image to produce an armbian bullseye var
<pablocastellanos> *variant*
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> check build system. its too big to tell
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: Do you know why debian was dropped?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> if anything was dropped is due to lack of resources
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> generally speaking. usually not other reasons. everything is present, just support status differ
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> you can build Debian sid in with any desktop you like, but if it works or not ...
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: I understand, it took me months to prepare a list of packages to rebuild for arm on debian buster, precisely because those are only available in debian bullseye, but now that bullseye is stable I was going to download an armbian image
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: I think it would be easy to install debian bullseye from the official debian installers
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> good luck 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://docs.armbian.com/#what-is-armbian
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> armbian is easy
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: I believe you, and is funny that a debian developer is saying the same in my quest to install bullseye on this pinebook.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> nothing against, debian, we are using packages from debian and are a part of it, but general debian is now where we were few years ago
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i would anyway recommend you to use ubuntu builds for this board ... but you know why you want debian
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: I need binary compatibility with buster or bullseye, or to rebuild a lot of ubuntu packages.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ok, then you need to build an image with our tools. xfce desktop should be fine, others no diea
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> updates will be comming up
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: And because audio is not supported yet on armbian buster (neither mesa) I was expecting support on a future armbian bullseye
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> the reasons why we don't provide pimped debian is simple
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> lack of resources
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> everyone would just like to have everything operation, better then a 1000 people company could deliver. armbian is dependent on 10-20 voolonteers
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: I'm going to make an schedule, I was planning to build my own image since January (when I bought this pinebook), but COVID give me a lot of work and no spare time. Again, I understand the lack of resources, I work on an institution with very limited resources.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> if you wanna understand more, check https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_FAQ/#development-time
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> glad you can understand. we have a plan for a major cut down, because we went to far already
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: An example, the PC on my office is an intel core duo from 2006
<c0rnelius> Sound like my PC. OptiPlex :)
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> then arm single board computer is like an upgrade ;)?
<sunshavi> a PIII is quicker than opi+2e. So core duo should be quick
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> it depends what / where
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<sunshavi> compiling C source code
<c0rnelius> Yeah core duo isn't to bad. slap in an ssd and max out the ram. It does ok. Its not winning any awards or anything, but yeah.
<sunshavi> core duo is great. It does have thi intel-ME thing
<sunshavi>
<sunshavi> s/does have/does NOT have/
<ArmbianHelper> sunshavi meant to say: core duo is great. It does NOT have thi intel-ME thing
<c0rnelius> I wouldn't use it for compiling, but for just getting work done its ok. Wanna compile and build something just ssh into the N2+ and let that lil grrl get it done.
<[TheBug]> G'day sunshavi
<sunshavi> good day TheBug
<sunshavi> TheBug: how is rockpro behaving?
<IgorPec> bug hi
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: Yes, it's an upgrade
<pablocastellanos> Armbian-Discord: IgorPec: How do you bridge discord and libera?
<[TheBug]> sunshavi: actually because of the on-built pcie slot on the board I may actually like it better for my use case than the RockPi 4c in the long run -- the m.2 to pcie adapter on RockPi 4c is a bit of a pain in the dick for setting up in a case for NAS use compared. That said RockPi 4c is stable on a newer kernel than RockPro64, RockPro64 seems stuck on 5.10.16 for now as there is some nasty
<[TheBug]> USB regression in newer kernels.
<IgorPec> pablocastellanos: not my work, dunno details https://docs.armbian.com/Community_IRC/
<[TheBug]> IgorPec: hey!
<IgorPec> hehj
<sunshavi> TheBug: the good side. It is stuck on an LTS. :)
<sunshavi> ArmbianTwitter is still active?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes
<sunshavi> cool.
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<jock> hello!
<[TheBug]> G'day jock
<jock> lo Bug!
<sunshavi> hey jock
<jock> hello sunshavi
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> [TheBug] this was explained to me by a user on another discord, all we have to do is use an EFI bootloader and mainline kernel and everything will just work. :)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I can't believe I've been doing it wrong all this time....
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> rpi users 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Lol well then the definition of just work is quite low
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 🤣
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> In their defense they just don't know
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> And the reality is too ridiculous to easily explain without being rejected 🤦‍♂️😂
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So Igor, on Tinkerboard I think we update U-boot and forget about the UMS mode for now. I can ask Asus to work out patches if they would like that function in the newer bootloader
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> they will probably not deal with this old horse
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: sorry I am inbetween a lot of convos, which was that reply in regards to?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> That's up to them haha
<[TheBug]> s/which/which board
<ArmbianHelper> [TheBug] meant to say: Tonymac32: sorry I am inbetween a lot of convos, which board was that reply in regards to?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> [TheBug] the USB regressions in new kernels, I was recently in a discussion where the user couldn't understand why we weren't just using unmodified mainline
<[TheBug]> ahhh
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So I was being sarcastic
<[TheBug]> gotcha
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<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: sorry for being short, lol, busy day at work here... and it's Friday.. so everyone with their last minute things..
<[TheBug]> EOW
<sunshavi> I have a tablet with a10. Should I try pcduino armbian image?
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> [TheBug] didn't actually notice, for the same reason.
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