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<[TheBug]> Hmm so are there nightlies for 3A or have we even messed with it yet?
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Probably need to build your own
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> But yeah no support at all currently in armbian builder
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> pando
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I'm no pando
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄
<[TheBug]> interesting and to note I thought it was RockPI 3A it is not, it is only named 'Rock 3A'
<[TheBug]> which seems weird to me
<[TheBug]> but ...
<[TheBug]> lol I didn't realize they don't even have in internal image yet
<[TheBug]> :facepalm:
<[TheBug]> and 3.x kernels
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> that's not possible
<[TheBug]> supposedly slackware may have an image
<[TheBug]> hmm though their wiki took me to wrong page
<[TheBug]> okay thats better
<[TheBug]> weird
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> lol
<[TheBug]> have inconsistent links on the page
<[TheBug]> they had another product called Rock
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I ran into some issues on the Zero page as well
<[TheBug]> and they linked downloads for it instead of for rock 3
<[TheBug]> weird stuff
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Do you smell what the Raxda is cookin
<[TheBug]> Tony: you may get a kick out of this, I had a 7x3TB raid5 go tits up on me this morning, when I got it reassembled it required a fsck before it would mount it -- it required 13.6GB ram be allocated (4GB Ram + 9.6GB swap file) and used aprox 13GB just to do the fsck on the array.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> hahahahaha sheeeeeesh
<[TheBug]> ahaha lanefu glad to know I am not the only one, how dumb is it that it is Radxa and not Raxda, I think the latter sounds better but .. nope its the first
<[TheBug]> :X
<[TheBug]> I am sure Radxa means something different than Raxda in Chinese or something
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Man I should totally buy that domain
<[TheBug]> LOL right
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> lolz
<[TheBug]> be careful though, it could mean like 'poop monster' or something weird in Chinese ;p
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I would buy poopmonster.com
<[TheBug]> okay I am not this disconnected from things but wtf compresses to .zst?
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Zip ties
<[TheBug]> O_o
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Bug install binwalk
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so hipboi needs to give me an RK3568 SOM w/ 8 GB for $55
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> KILL IT WITH FIRE
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: seriously one I play with this if you will build Armbian I will send you one of these, I have an 8GB and a 4GB I do not need to have both
<[TheBug]> then you can send back when your done playing
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> There is only 1 Tony
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Nah that's alright, I have too much on the burners already, I just have... uses fora SoM that doesn't suck
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> And he's not a timeshare
<[TheBug]> s/seriously one I pla/seriously once I get done 'playing'
<ArmbianHelper> [TheBug] meant to say: Tonymac32: seriously once I get done 'playing'y with this if you will build Armbian I will send you one of these, I have an 8GB and a 4GB I do not need to have both
<[TheBug]> man.. what if it arrives with a 100$ bottle of whiskey?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> :D:D:D:D
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> It's exhausting being visionaries
<[TheBug]> lol
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Well this "visionary" hasn't gone past 4 layers and really wide pitch BGA, or else he wouldn't be asking
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄
<[TheBug]> I love everytime I ask that to piter75 he gives me cold sholder, at least Tonymac32 leads me on ;p
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> ain't nobody got time for that
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Time to see another layer
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I was thinking of doing a 6, but I need to work out BGA first
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> my home reflow setup is pretty good, but I'm not confident
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Dev cost Is 10.000 for 3a
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 50 hours seems a bit quick to get that worked out. Someone needs to send me a TRM too 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😛
<[TheBug]> interesting
<[TheBug]> I wonder why the Rock 3A has a label that says 'Toybrick'
<[TheBug]> this isn't very reassuring of the quality
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> um
<[TheBug]> maybe that means something else in Chinese
<[TheBug]> lol
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> codename
<[TheBug]> ahh
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> For poopmonster
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so must be "jr"
<[TheBug]> lol but its not a 3399
<[TheBug]> hehe
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> remember the Tinker Board was the "Miniarm"
<[TheBug]> its a 3568
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> yeah but think of it more like a cavalier
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> an 87 anda 2002 have nothing in common
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> "toybrick series"
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> well, except cheap
<[TheBug]> I am guessing they are pin compatible SoCs
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> They have Delphi in common
<[TheBug]> so probably designed for rk3399 and move to 3569
<[TheBug]> er 3568*
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> hmmmm
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I hope rockchip just does a straight up 4000
<[TheBug]> so new discussion, why is slackware using .zst to compress images, ewwwwww
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Cuz its good compression
<[TheBug]> ohh I see
<[TheBug]> its RockCHips codename for it
<[TheBug]> fun
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> wtf
<[TheBug]> yeah I read something about that
<[TheBug]> but its gonna be spensive
<[TheBug]> I forget where
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Anyhow I guess Toybrick is Rockchip
<[TheBug]> interestingly they paid people to put our articles but there is no link back to an actual direct reference I can find
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> well ok
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so Lenovo + 96Boards+Toybrick is probably $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Linaro* Brain short circuit
<[TheBug]> ohh yeah
<[TheBug]> its for more industrial / robotic
<[TheBug]> and they want corp not hobby
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: " Number 5 is alive."
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> My career is spent making corps look stupid and then fixing their stupid. Although I guess quantum magnetic effects are a bit easy compared to some shitty C code
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> (To be honest usually I wind up fixing things involving simple shielding or chucking in a capacitor on the electrical side. Don't tell anyone)
<[TheBug]> ;)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> OK, I have an idea: All the SBC vendors make their best SoM in response to a basic spec from me and Lanefu, and we judge them in a battle royale
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Pine needs to make another one, their current one is already DoA for being pin compatible to that RPi thing
<[TheBug]> Tonymac32: you telling me you never watched the Short Circut movies? I thought surely you would get my reference, lol
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> (For the competiton, not in general)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> [TheBug] NO DISASSEMBLE
<[TheBug]> haha
<[TheBug]> " Error. Grasshopper disassembled... Re-assemble!"
<[TheBug]> "Jerk of the world: Turkey, idiot, pain in the ass."
<[TheBug]> lol
<[TheBug]> anyways
<[TheBug]> I guess with Telsa making a Telsa bot we are getting closer and closer to Number 5 being real ;p
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> nah, it'll just roll into things and over cliffs without stopping
<[TheBug]> LOL
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> reminds me I need to get another welding bottle though
<[TheBug]> ROFL
<[TheBug]> I have no idea how I am going to coll this thing
<[TheBug]> yuou cant even fit a 20mmx20mm heatsink I don't think
<[TheBug]> because of how they placed the mipi connector or whatever
<[TheBug]> wow I am seriously a bit stumped how they intended on sooling this
<[TheBug]> cooling*
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Yeah that mipi DSI connector made me 😦
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> or is that the CSI? I don't remember
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> but yeah, I don't see a good way to cool that if you're planning on beating on it
<[TheBug]> either wayt its in the wrong fucking place
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> that said it shouldn't make as much heat
<[TheBug]> thats actually hugely disappointing
<[TheBug]> how the fuck you supposed to fit a heatsink on this
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> thermal adhesive and some prayer
* [TheBug] laughs out loud hysterically
<[TheBug]> you mean like the RockPi X
<[TheBug]> now I see your motives ;p
<[TheBug]> you want another Radxa board with torn memory don't you?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so you have that connector, the PoE pins, and another 2-pin I don't know what it is right off the corner
<[TheBug]> I have a heatsink that will 'fit'
<[TheBug]> but its in no way big enough as it looks to me
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> and if that crystal next to the USB3 is a bit tall it will be in the way too
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Well, it's clear we're at the end of the line for the Raspberry Pi nonsense form factor
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Remember Rockchip thought sticking an RK3288 on top of the "miniarm" was an awesome idea too 😄 I cut a 25x40x10 to clear a couple inductors and glued it down with a fan to keep that SOB cool
<Armbian-Discord> Command sent by Tonymac32
<Armbian-Discord> ...only to have USB failing because the micro USB feeding it was just a terrible idea
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> anyway that board had a lot wrong but actually worked really well
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> maybe this will follow
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> hmmm, "SOB SBCs, LLC"
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> filling out the paperwork
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> When the mini-ITX-ish one is released ship me one
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> > <[TheBug]> I wonder why the Rock 3A has a label that says 'Toybrick' Same cooperation like lenovo
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> lenovo x toybrick
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> radxa x toybrick
<[TheBug]> gotcha
<[TheBug]> well I got the 8Gb one booted running Ubuntu
<[TheBug]> got xfce4 installed
<[TheBug]> sounds works
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> how about the m.2?
<[TheBug]> video playback is poo but that is expected with no accel at all
<[TheBug]> I haven't populated m.2 am using emmc
<[TheBug]> but man you gave very small space for heatsink
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> any ax200?
<[TheBug]> I had to use heatsink from old videos card
<[TheBug]> ohh I don't have wifi m.2 actually
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> but you can attach a fan
<[TheBug]> I didn't get cause I have a bucket full of usb dongles
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> limited space
<[TheBug]> yeah I guess but no convient way to attach
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> the 3A is very very compact
<[TheBug]> I had to use thermal glue on the SOC which is not my favorite...
* [TheBug] has flash backs to RockPi X
<[TheBug]> but this time not on memory
<[TheBug]> so hopefully won't be an issue if I ever had to remove
<[TheBug]> actually suprised how quickly got base Xwindows up
<[TheBug]> expected it to be a little more time consuming but it zips right along
<[TheBug]> tested firefox, YT can't do above 360p or so atm but will take some time to improve that I guess
<[TheBug]> Thanks for sending that on, also, finally got a Penta Hat
<[TheBug]> so time to give it a test too, lol
<[TheBug]> do you guys have pcie working already in your images?
<[TheBug]> anyways will be testing it over next week or so
<[TheBug]> maybe will post to my blog for it ;)
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> yes, penta works
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> but i requires a rescan after booting
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> need to update the penta firmware
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> the SPI flash to solve it
<[TheBug]> lol don't know if you see what I told Tonymac earlier about having to fsck raid on RockPi 4c :Z I had to use 10GB swap file to fsck a 3TBx7 drive array
<[TheBug]> lol
<[TheBug]> that was some fun
<[TheBug]> luckily recovered it after had drive failure
<[TheBug]> hm so penta hat will require some new firmware to work on 3A is what you are saying
<[TheBug]> got it.
<[TheBug]> I will also test regular sata card on it as well as time allows and report performance
<[TheBug]> some are saying will be a toss up
<[TheBug]> will have to find out
<[TheBug]> pretty snappy though overall so far
<[TheBug]> liking the 3A
<[TheBug]> hipboi: why Rock 3A and not RockPi 3A? didn't notice that before but curious to know the reasoning
<[TheBug]> I see, so you are talking about fan with PWM then
<[TheBug]> where pwm module can manage temps
<[TheBug]> got it
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> forget the "Pi" sauce
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://forum.radxa.com/t/rock-3b-ideas-and-discussion/6810/2 @hipboi hurry up on this one 😉
<[TheBug]> man, nothing like using vendor releases to make you wish for Armbian
<[TheBug]> Would love to have Budgie
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<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> > <[TheBug]> @hipboi why Rock 3A and not RockPi 3A? didn't notice that before but curious to know the reasoning just drop the Pi name
<Armbian-Discord> <h​ipboi> to follow you can not surpass
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Oh awesome!
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> What video connection is that
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> You've been trying to make this work for a while right?
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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> Yup, it's been few months on/off, now got enough time to complete.
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> mipi dsi
<lanefu> that's great! congratulations on beating it
<nekomancer[m]> > Tony: you may get a kick out of this, I had a 7x3TB raid5 go tits up on me this morning, when I got it reassembled it required a fsck before it would mount it -- it required 13.6GB ram be allocated (4GB Ram + 9.6GB swap file) and used aprox 13GB just to do the fsck on the array.
<nekomancer[m]> what filesystem?
<nekomancer[m]> > <l​anefu> I hope rockchip just does a straight up 4000
<nekomancer[m]> just to match a phrase "it's over 9000"
<lanefu> bug still lives in EXT4 land
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> good morning
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> Good morning
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> How can I use Phosh mobile UI with Armbian?
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> I have compiled and install it on armbian ubuntu 21.04 server image.
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> I couldn't get it to start.
<steev> why compiled and not the packaged versions?
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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> I don't know. The post on the Armbian forum recommend compiling from source so that what I did.
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> Just tried the phosh package version. It too failed to start.
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<steev> logs?
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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> Works on Debian bullseye
<steev> logs?
<steev> It failed to start doesn't mean anything
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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> It works on Debian so all fine. I will investigate the problem later with ubuntu.
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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> It was something like unable to open DRM device.
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<IgorPec> did you try?
<sunshavi> IgorPec: NO. just H3 here
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<Armbian-Discord> <a​guapi> Hi there. I only have one working usb port. this is a screenshot of my armbianEnv.txt. i'm in armbian hirsute
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> yes, I tested focal with 4b dtb and 1 usb 3.0 isnt working
<[TheBug]> hm
<[TheBug]> does it work with older dtb?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Hmmmmm
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Kernel?
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> probably
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> anyone more here with a 4b?
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> 4g 4e 4f
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> lol
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> Sorry, false contact on my side
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> 4 usb working
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> K 5.10.63
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> Cab you try focal @aguapi ??
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> @SpacingBat3 the Webcord electro discord app dev is here @lanefu 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Good job @aguapi I'm using it on my pinebook pro
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> wrong ping, it's spacingbat hahah @lanefu
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Good job spacebat
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Good job anyway aguapi
<archetech> mc
<steev> i gotta say, i'm kinda impressed at the performance of 0ad on the pbp
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> well, it's a 2.1 opengl only game
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> should be better with a gles render or a vulkan one (once we get a vulkan driver working)
<steev> yeah but the performance of it on... most systems has been hilariously bad
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> steev what's 0ad?
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> a game
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> I compiled it on rpi3 with 1 core (due ram limitations)!! whooping 15GB folder after compiling hahhaa it was my biggest compilation on rpi3
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> 1 day long 🙂
<steev> yeah, it's kinda ridiculous
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