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<[TheBug]>
Hmm so are there nightlies for 3A or have we even messed with it yet?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Probably need to build your own
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> But yeah no support at all currently in armbian builder
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> pando
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I'm no pando
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<[TheBug]>
interesting and to note I thought it was RockPI 3A it is not, it is only named 'Rock 3A'
<[TheBug]>
which seems weird to me
<[TheBug]>
but ...
<[TheBug]>
lol I didn't realize they don't even have in internal image yet
<[TheBug]>
:facepalm:
<[TheBug]>
and 3.x kernels
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> that's not possible
<[TheBug]>
supposedly slackware may have an image
<[TheBug]>
hmm though their wiki took me to wrong page
<[TheBug]>
okay thats better
<[TheBug]>
weird
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> lol
<[TheBug]>
have inconsistent links on the page
<[TheBug]>
they had another product called Rock
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I ran into some issues on the Zero page as well
<[TheBug]>
and they linked downloads for it instead of for rock 3
<[TheBug]>
weird stuff
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Do you smell what the Raxda is cookin
<[TheBug]>
Tony: you may get a kick out of this, I had a 7x3TB raid5 go tits up on me this morning, when I got it reassembled it required a fsck before it would mount it -- it required 13.6GB ram be allocated (4GB Ram + 9.6GB swap file) and used aprox 13GB just to do the fsck on the array.
<[TheBug]>
ahaha lanefu glad to know I am not the only one, how dumb is it that it is Radxa and not Raxda, I think the latter sounds better but .. nope its the first
<[TheBug]>
:X
<[TheBug]>
I am sure Radxa means something different than Raxda in Chinese or something
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Man I should totally buy that domain
<[TheBug]>
LOL right
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> lolz
<[TheBug]>
be careful though, it could mean like 'poop monster' or something weird in Chinese ;p
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I would buy poopmonster.com
<[TheBug]>
okay I am not this disconnected from things but wtf compresses to .zst?
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Zip ties
<[TheBug]>
O_o
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Bug install binwalk
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so hipboi needs to give me an RK3568 SOM w/ 8 GB for $55
<[TheBug]>
Tonymac32: seriously one I play with this if you will build Armbian I will send you one of these, I have an 8GB and a 4GB I do not need to have both
<[TheBug]>
then you can send back when your done playing
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> There is only 1 Tony
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Nah that's alright, I have too much on the burners already, I just have... uses fora SoM that doesn't suck
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> And he's not a timeshare
<[TheBug]>
s/seriously one I pla/seriously once I get done 'playing'
<ArmbianHelper>
[TheBug] meant to say: Tonymac32: seriously once I get done 'playing'y with this if you will build Armbian I will send you one of these, I have an 8GB and a 4GB I do not need to have both
<[TheBug]>
man.. what if it arrives with a 100$ bottle of whiskey?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> :D:D:D:D
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> It's exhausting being visionaries
<[TheBug]>
lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Well this "visionary" hasn't gone past 4 layers and really wide pitch BGA, or else he wouldn't be asking
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<[TheBug]>
I love everytime I ask that to piter75 he gives me cold sholder, at least Tonymac32 leads me on ;p
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> ain't nobody got time for that
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Time to see another layer
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I was thinking of doing a 6, but I need to work out BGA first
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> my home reflow setup is pretty good, but I'm not confident
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Dev cost Is 10.000 for 3a
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 50 hours seems a bit quick to get that worked out. Someone needs to send me a TRM too 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😛
<[TheBug]>
interesting
<[TheBug]>
I wonder why the Rock 3A has a label that says 'Toybrick'
<[TheBug]>
this isn't very reassuring of the quality
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> um
<[TheBug]>
maybe that means something else in Chinese
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so Lenovo + 96Boards+Toybrick is probably $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Linaro* Brain short circuit
<[TheBug]>
ohh yeah
<[TheBug]>
its for more industrial / robotic
<[TheBug]>
and they want corp not hobby
<[TheBug]>
Tonymac32: " Number 5 is alive."
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> My career is spent making corps look stupid and then fixing their stupid. Although I guess quantum magnetic effects are a bit easy compared to some shitty C code
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> (To be honest usually I wind up fixing things involving simple shielding or chucking in a capacitor on the electrical side. Don't tell anyone)
<[TheBug]>
;)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> OK, I have an idea: All the SBC vendors make their best SoM in response to a basic spec from me and Lanefu, and we judge them in a battle royale
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Pine needs to make another one, their current one is already DoA for being pin compatible to that RPi thing
<[TheBug]>
Tonymac32: you telling me you never watched the Short Circut movies? I thought surely you would get my reference, lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> (For the competiton, not in general)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> [TheBug] NO DISASSEMBLE
<[TheBug]>
"Jerk of the world: Turkey, idiot, pain in the ass."
<[TheBug]>
lol
<[TheBug]>
anyways
<[TheBug]>
I guess with Telsa making a Telsa bot we are getting closer and closer to Number 5 being real ;p
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> nah, it'll just roll into things and over cliffs without stopping
<[TheBug]>
LOL
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> reminds me I need to get another welding bottle though
<[TheBug]>
ROFL
<[TheBug]>
I have no idea how I am going to coll this thing
<[TheBug]>
yuou cant even fit a 20mmx20mm heatsink I don't think
<[TheBug]>
because of how they placed the mipi connector or whatever
<[TheBug]>
wow I am seriously a bit stumped how they intended on sooling this
<[TheBug]>
cooling*
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Yeah that mipi DSI connector made me 😦
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> or is that the CSI? I don't remember
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> but yeah, I don't see a good way to cool that if you're planning on beating on it
<[TheBug]>
either wayt its in the wrong fucking place
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> that said it shouldn't make as much heat
<[TheBug]>
thats actually hugely disappointing
<[TheBug]>
how the fuck you supposed to fit a heatsink on this
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> thermal adhesive and some prayer
* [TheBug]
laughs out loud hysterically
<[TheBug]>
you mean like the RockPi X
<[TheBug]>
now I see your motives ;p
<[TheBug]>
you want another Radxa board with torn memory don't you?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> so you have that connector, the PoE pins, and another 2-pin I don't know what it is right off the corner
<[TheBug]>
I have a heatsink that will 'fit'
<[TheBug]>
but its in no way big enough as it looks to me
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> and if that crystal next to the USB3 is a bit tall it will be in the way too
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Well, it's clear we're at the end of the line for the Raspberry Pi nonsense form factor
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Remember Rockchip thought sticking an RK3288 on top of the "miniarm" was an awesome idea too 😄 I cut a 25x40x10 to clear a couple inductors and glued it down with a fan to keep that SOB cool
<Armbian-Discord>
Command sent by Tonymac32
<Armbian-Discord>
...only to have USB failing because the micro USB feeding it was just a terrible idea
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> anyway that board had a lot wrong but actually worked really well
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> maybe this will follow
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> filling out the paperwork
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> When the mini-ITX-ish one is released ship me one
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> > <[TheBug]> I wonder why the Rock 3A has a label that says 'Toybrick' Same cooperation like lenovo
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> lenovo x toybrick
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> radxa x toybrick
<[TheBug]>
gotcha
<[TheBug]>
well I got the 8Gb one booted running Ubuntu
<[TheBug]>
got xfce4 installed
<[TheBug]>
sounds works
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> how about the m.2?
<[TheBug]>
video playback is poo but that is expected with no accel at all
<[TheBug]>
I haven't populated m.2 am using emmc
<[TheBug]>
but man you gave very small space for heatsink
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> any ax200?
<[TheBug]>
I had to use heatsink from old videos card
<[TheBug]>
ohh I don't have wifi m.2 actually
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> but you can attach a fan
<[TheBug]>
I didn't get cause I have a bucket full of usb dongles
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> limited space
<[TheBug]>
yeah I guess but no convient way to attach
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> the 3A is very very compact
<[TheBug]>
I had to use thermal glue on the SOC which is not my favorite...
* [TheBug]
has flash backs to RockPi X
<[TheBug]>
but this time not on memory
<[TheBug]>
so hopefully won't be an issue if I ever had to remove
<[TheBug]>
actually suprised how quickly got base Xwindows up
<[TheBug]>
expected it to be a little more time consuming but it zips right along
<[TheBug]>
tested firefox, YT can't do above 360p or so atm but will take some time to improve that I guess
<[TheBug]>
Thanks for sending that on, also, finally got a Penta Hat
<[TheBug]>
so time to give it a test too, lol
<[TheBug]>
do you guys have pcie working already in your images?
<[TheBug]>
anyways will be testing it over next week or so
<[TheBug]>
maybe will post to my blog for it ;)
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> yes, penta works
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> but i requires a rescan after booting
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> need to update the penta firmware
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> the SPI flash to solve it
<[TheBug]>
lol don't know if you see what I told Tonymac earlier about having to fsck raid on RockPi 4c :Z I had to use 10GB swap file to fsck a 3TBx7 drive array
<[TheBug]>
lol
<[TheBug]>
that was some fun
<[TheBug]>
luckily recovered it after had drive failure
<[TheBug]>
hm so penta hat will require some new firmware to work on 3A is what you are saying
<[TheBug]>
got it.
<[TheBug]>
I will also test regular sata card on it as well as time allows and report performance
<[TheBug]>
some are saying will be a toss up
<[TheBug]>
will have to find out
<[TheBug]>
pretty snappy though overall so far
<[TheBug]>
liking the 3A
<[TheBug]>
hipboi: why Rock 3A and not RockPi 3A? didn't notice that before but curious to know the reasoning
<[TheBug]>
I see, so you are talking about fan with PWM then
<[TheBug]>
where pwm module can manage temps
<[TheBug]>
got it
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> forget the "Pi" sauce
<[TheBug]>
man, nothing like using vendor releases to make you wish for Armbian
<[TheBug]>
Would love to have Budgie
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<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> > <[TheBug]> @hipboi why Rock 3A and not RockPi 3A? didn't notice that before but curious to know the reasoning just drop the Pi name
<Armbian-Discord>
<hipboi> to follow you can not surpass
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> What video connection is that
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> You've been trying to make this work for a while right?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> Yup, it's been few months on/off, now got enough time to complete.
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> mipi dsi
<lanefu>
that's great! congratulations on beating it
<nekomancer[m]>
> Tony: you may get a kick out of this, I had a 7x3TB raid5 go tits up on me this morning, when I got it reassembled it required a fsck before it would mount it -- it required 13.6GB ram be allocated (4GB Ram + 9.6GB swap file) and used aprox 13GB just to do the fsck on the array.
<nekomancer[m]>
what filesystem?
<nekomancer[m]>
> <lanefu> I hope rockchip just does a straight up 4000
<nekomancer[m]>
just to match a phrase "it's over 9000"
<lanefu>
bug still lives in EXT4 land
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> good morning
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> Good morning
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> How can I use Phosh mobile UI with Armbian?
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> I have compiled and install it on armbian ubuntu 21.04 server image.
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> I couldn't get it to start.
<steev>
why compiled and not the packaged versions?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> I don't know. The post on the Armbian forum recommend compiling from source so that what I did.
<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> Just tried the phosh package version. It too failed to start.
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<steev>
logs?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> Works on Debian bullseye
<steev>
logs?
<steev>
It failed to start doesn't mean anything
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<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> It works on Debian so all fine. I will investigate the problem later with ubuntu.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<kprasadvnsi> It was something like unable to open DRM device.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Good job anyway aguapi
<archetech>
mc
<steev>
i gotta say, i'm kinda impressed at the performance of 0ad on the pbp
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> well, it's a 2.1 opengl only game
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> should be better with a gles render or a vulkan one (once we get a vulkan driver working)
<steev>
yeah but the performance of it on... most systems has been hilariously bad
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<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> steev what's 0ad?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> a game
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<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> I compiled it on rpi3 with 1 core (due ram limitations)!! whooping 15GB folder after compiling hahhaa it was my biggest compilation on rpi3
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