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<[TheBug]> Helios4 should be fun
<[TheBug]> Armada is generally sometimes not so stable
<[TheBug]> mangix: what is the failure?
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> did Armbian has added VPU support for RK3399 boards?
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<mangix> [TheBug]: Welcome to Armbian 21.08.1 Buster with Linux 5.10.34-mvebu
<mangix> No end-user support: built from trunk
<mangix> happened after apt upgrade
<mangix> Armada is fixed after I removed those fault cpufreq patches
<mangix> *faulty
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> Nope
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> There is hantro but doesn't work afaik
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> You can get vpu with legacy K and there is an script on the forum then
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> The cnx article says that they added VPU support and the armbian announcement post on forum also say the same.
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<IgorPec> mangix: helios is officially still WIP https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/master/config/boards/helios64.wip which is why image does not have property "stable"
<IgorPec> k​prasadvnsi: hantro is enabled on kernel level, but i haven't done anything with it
<mangix> IgorPec: this is a helios4, not 64...
<IgorPec> ahaa
<IgorPec> buster -> bullseye upgrade?
<mangix> no
<mangix> just apt ugprade
<IgorPec> never mind
<IgorPec> i see package has "user-build" type
<IgorPec> some has that flag set correct, some don't ... :)
<IgorPec> for future, i have to figure out
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> What can I do in the userspace? Is there a discussion thread I can follow?
<IgorPec> no idea, not my area of interest
<IgorPec> check forums
<mangix> fixed. cool.
<IgorPec> it seems we need to code some unit testings for packages
<mangix> I do wonder since Kobol is no more what will happen to the helios64
<mangix> jesus. one is going for $510 on eBay
<IgorPec> kobol or anyone else never did things above low level support.
<mangix> huh?
<mangix> you mean kernel stuff?
<mangix> oh. I read that wrong.
<IgorPec> device tree blob with their hw specifics and scripts to run fan which is another hw property
<IgorPec> but problem is when things breaks down at kernel / u-boot upgrades, like we have now with eMMC support
<IgorPec> speaking for helios64
<mangix> that doesn't sound fun
<IgorPec> :) well, thet's the reality of this job
<mangix> Nice title in the forum: Does anyone actually have a stable system?
<IgorPec> well, frankly i don't know. personally i don't follow this hw since i don't have it and since i am way too busy
<IgorPec> IMO i think there are some problems here and there, but not as dramatic as written there
<mangix> It'll be stable in 5 years
<IgorPec> usually it takes 2y in total
<IgorPec> wa are still in 1st afaik
<mangix> I'm skeptical :)
<IgorPec> devices are getting more complex, while nobody is willing to cover support expenses
<mangix> I still have no idea why those DFS patches were carried by Armbian for mvebu
<IgorPec> well, that was an attempt to get it working
<IgorPec> they were eventually removed since it was a source of troubles
<IgorPec> working DVFS is nice to have functionality
<mangix> not when the issue is in hardware. Funny enough, even the newer arm64 mvebu stuff is broken
<IgorPec> if you know that ;)
<IgorPec> getting dvfs to work properly you need to have a larger samples of all board revisions to tweak it up perfectly
<IgorPec> which we don't have
<mangix> IgorPec: this was stated by the author of the patchset somewhere. Not sure where.
<IgorPec> also possible, but like i said, its difficult to make it right in any case
<mangix> I don't feel like retesting again
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<IgorPec> yeah, it doesn't seems many people is tweaking this hw
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