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<archetyp> --Entschuldigung, aber ich war eingeschlafen.
<ArmbianHelper> Sorry, but I fell asleep. [de~>eng]
<archetyp> --Nun bin ich wach, einen Moment bitte.
<ArmbianHelper> Now I'm up, just a moment [de~>eng]
<archetyp> --Habe noch eine SD mit 120 GB.
<ArmbianHelper> I still have an SD with 120 GB. [de~>eng]
<archetyp> R​ichNeese
<archetyp> --Pale Moon kann den Server unter armbian_21.08.0-trunk_rockpi-4b_focal_current_5.10.51_enlightenment_desktop.img nicht finden.
<ArmbianHelper> Pale Moon cannot find the server at armbian_21.08.0-trunk_rockpi-4b_focal_current_5.10.51_enlightenment_desktop.img. [de~>eng]
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<archetyp> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<archetyp> --Alle liegen in ihren Betten und schlafen. ;)
<ArmbianHelper> Everyone is lying in their beds and sleeping. ;) [de~>eng]
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> no I took a nap
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> I am awake
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> working to shrink the img for you
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> It is 22:00 here. 😆
<lanefu> :P
<archetyp> Oh!
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> its posting give a few min
<archetyp> ok
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> 6.1G output/images/Armbian_21.08.0-trunk_Rockpi-4b_focal_current_5.10.51_enlightenment_desktop.img
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> ok got size down
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> 1.4G output/images/Armbian_21.08.0-trunk_Rockpi-4b_focal_current_5.10.51_enlightenment_desktop.img.xz
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> there you go archetyp
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<archetyp> wget is downloading ...
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> hope you like it
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> if yuo can run htop and give a screen shot
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> want to see usage
<archetyp> --Vielen Dank für deine Bemühungen, ich werde das Image später testen, bin schon sehr gespannt.
<ArmbianHelper> Thank you for your efforts, I'll test the image later, I'm really excited. [de~>eng]
<archetyp> --Muss vorher noch ein schlafen, hatte zu wenig Schlaf heute.
<ArmbianHelper> I have to go to sleep first, had too little sleep today. [de~>eng]
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> ok
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> I ran htop on a vm and it used only 385 meg ram
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> which then makes it viable for 2 gig boards
<archetyp> --Werde dann eine oder zwei neue Screenshots hochladen, also wenn das Image hier läuft, htop und neofetch. ;-)
<ArmbianHelper> I will then upload one or two new screenshots, so if the image is running here, htop and neofetch. ;-) [de~>eng]
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> ok
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> its a full on armbian build with all the apps
<archetyp> :-)
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<archetyp> --Download wurde erfolgreich beendet.
<ArmbianHelper> Download ended successfully. [de~>eng]
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> ok
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<nekomancer[m]> seems armbian+openmediavault hangs on boot if one of configured HDD failed. serial console have to be used.
<nekomancer[m]> And there are UPS inside, and power button not work as power if system hung on boot
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> how it stops?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i think i had to do the same last time on x86 server
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> not serial console, but console
<[TheBug]> what device are you booting from
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i think helios64
<[TheBug]> I have seen that when you are booting from SATA and the drive fails so disk changes name, also seen that if t he volume is in fstab but is unavailable
<[TheBug]> would also guess it has to do with systemd probably
<[TheBug]> and it expecting a certain target but not reaching it
<[TheBug]> or you saying at uboot?
<[TheBug]> hmm
<[TheBug]> if in uboot its because it already initialized the controller and expects disk at location in memory and won't be reset till it is retrained by power off and on
<[TheBug]> anyways if you have some log or more info maybe easier to tell
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i think its systemd stuff
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> but i only speculate, neko has to say
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<nekomancer[m]> helios64. hdd just dead completely. it was detected, messages in logs, etc. but then I just power it off (from gui). and want to continue next time. Next time it boots only into "enter root password for maintenance" in serial console
<nekomancer[m]> it's not uboot, systemd looks like a root or problem.
<nekomancer[m]> I connect serial console, enter as root, comment out in fstab dead hdd mount, and command reboot. and it boot.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i think this is not something specific to armbian
<nekomancer[m]> but if I can't do a console work — I'd have unusable black box I can't even power off
<nekomancer[m]> (until it drain up UPS battery)
<nekomancer[m]> sure
<nekomancer[m]> debian buster
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, this is normal 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> all server class hardware have some consoling
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> even there critical even is very rare, its must have
<nekomancer[m]> and I newer think somebody will not do a "pong press power button do a hardware power off" funtion in 2021 year.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i had a crash on our build server few weeks ago, it also stoped here with saying that it can't mount rootfs
<nekomancer[m]> But to boot with failed component to allow maintenace of reconfiguration — it's normal.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> well, remote power on / off and all sorts of settings is normal on server hardware. in case of helios64, we are not on that level, close
<nekomancer[m]> it's impossible to boot without rootfs. my system lost one of 3 disks, not in raid array. It should just work without lost part.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> skip on failed disk is IMO some mount parameter
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> an OMV issue if you have used their interface
<nekomancer[m]> then it's openmediavailt duty. it generates fstab.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yeah, i don't use OMV because i only trust myself when configuring critical things 😉
* nekomancer[m] have to look for "ignore on mount" option and try to boot with it.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> probably. or just put them into some Zraid
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ZFS covers this for you
<nekomancer[m]> <Armbian-Discord "<I​gorPec> yeah, i don't use OMV"> seems it's still the one way even for home. sad.
<nekomancer[m]> no, raid not for that case.
<nekomancer[m]> there no need internal data redundancy, backup is enough.
<nekomancer[m]> enterprise servers can continue to work even on failure in cpu and RAM, if there still available good module. Just kills affected processes.
<nekomancer[m]> I hope any system can do that for hdd.
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i have zraid 1 on my two nas servers
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> small redundancy, some speed gain
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> and all goodies that comes with zfs
<nekomancer[m]> zraid have a dark parts: all disks should be same size, or lost part of volume
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes ofc
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ain't suited for all cases
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<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> archetyp you alive this am ?
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<archetyp> Yes :)
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<archetyp> --Ich habe soeben das Image auf die SD geschrieben, mittels USB-Imager.
<ArmbianHelper> I have just written the image to the SD using a USB imager. [de~>eng]
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> ok\
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<nekomancer[m]> Bwahaha, chia miners!
<nekomancer[m]> € 20,90 32%OFF | 88SE9215 Chip 5-24 Ports SATA 3.0 To PCIe Expansion Card PCI Express SATA Adapter SATA 3 Converter With Heat Sink For HDD
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Sheesh
<lanefu> hahah
<lanefu> mann
<lanefu> i wodner how terrible that chip is
<lanefu> would be great for jbod type storage systems
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<lanefu> [TheBug]: ^
<nekomancer[m]> 1 sata HBA + 4 sata miltiplier on one boart, not a rocket science.
<nekomancer[m]> Buuut, looking to crappy usb→sata converters on most SBC and sata boxes, it's hard to believe that wonderwaffen can be usable
<BCMM> i think the actual chip is a fairly normal one, used on some motherboards etc., with four ports. they've either used port multipliers or put several copies of the chip on board.
<BCMM> oh, it is a multiplier?
<nekomancer[m]> I don't know... but what else can it be?
<BCMM> nekomancer[m]: the marvell chip only needs 2 pcie lanes
<nekomancer[m]> There 4 small chips without a radiators can be seen
<nekomancer[m]> then, 2 marvell sata + 4 sata multiplier
<lanefu> anyway i wouldn't use that card for raid, but jbod volumes with something like minio or other storage platform that uses erase coding for managing redundancy
<BCMM> nekomancer[m]: probably makes sense. the only thing is, why do the versions with more ports take up an x16 slot?
<BCMM> (i suppose it's also possible that the actual specs have nothing to do with the product page)
<nekomancer[m]> maybe there are good x16 8 port HBA.
<nekomancer[m]> or ×8, bit ×16 just "because they can".
<nekomancer[m]> I write te seller question about a chips. just curious.
<nekomancer[m]> no plans to buy.
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> archetyp so how is it going
<BCMM> nekomancer[m]: i think there must be some information missing from the specs... there's no way that 5-port version is based on the 88SE9215
<BCMM> it's a four-port sata controller, and putting 3 ports straight out and only one port in to a 2x multiplier would be mad, right?
<BCMM> gotta love aliexpress... "Color: 5 Port"
<BCMM> also the 5 port is on an x4 edge connector and the 8 port is on an x1, so i think there's some serious difference in the internals between different versions
<BCMM> ... i reckon you're right, and the long connectors are just for show
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<nekomancer[m]> seller answer is `88se9215`
<nekomancer[m]> is it possible at all to place 6×88se9215 on one PCIe socket?
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i haven't had time to look, so can't really comment 😉
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<mrueg> 8GB LPDDR4 sounds great. not sure if it's worth waiting or the rk3588 though
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Ill take 8 gig with a55 cores. I think a55s are quite performant
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I just dont think we're ever gonna get like some workstation grade sbc with 16 cores and 16-32gig of ram
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Unless like an overbuilt nxp soc meant for bigass routers
<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> Is there a list somewhere in armbian for WiFi module used in SBCs?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> not that i am aware of any
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Not that I know of. Might be a useful thing if anyone wanted to add it, could be scraped from kernel configs perhaps
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<buZz> oracle now offers a free ARM vps with 24GB ram and 200GB storage and 10TB traffic
<buZz> 21:42:45 <@madeddie> 2 AMD based Compute VMs with 1/8 OCPU** and 1 GB memory each.
<buZz> 21:42:50 <@madeddie> 2 Block Volumes Storage, 200 GB total.
<buZz> 21:42:48 <@madeddie> 4 Arm-based Ampere A1 cores and 24 GB of memory usable as one VM or up to 4 VMs.
<archetyp> --Großes Bildschirmfoto
<ArmbianHelper> Great screenshot [de~>eng]
<lanefu> yeah its a PITA to try to actually get a node with those resources provisioned
<lanefu> usually not enough resources avaialble
<lanefu> i thikn i've got maybe 2 or 3 cores deployed in oracle
<nekomancer[m]> <Armbian-Discord "<I​gorPec> https://forum.armbian"> chip on top. no good big radiators (as for rock pi 4 and odroid-N2) allowed. Booooo.
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<archetech> had to try it ...
<archetech> Display: wayland server: X.Org driver: loaded: modesetting resolution: 2560x1440~60Hz
<archetech> OpenGL: renderer: Mali G52 (Panfrost) v: 3.1 Mesa 21.3.0-devel (git-66213ab 2021-07-20 impish-oibaf-ppa)
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> so its all working archetyp
<archetyp> --Ich habe es heute installiert und dann einige Dinge getestet.
<ArmbianHelper> I installed it today and then tested a few things. [de~>eng]
<archetyp> --Alles funktioniert, aber bei der Hardwarebeschleunigung von Video zeigten sich Probleme.
<ArmbianHelper> Everything works, but I was having problems with hardware acceleration of video. [de~>eng]
<nekomancer[m]> everybody having problems with hardware acceleration of video.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> @TRS-80: https://github.com/mvdan/sh instead of the doxygen thing maybe ?
<archetyp> --Konnte mir nochmals die 21. Etappe der Tour de France mit mpv in HD anschauen, lief einwandfrei im Vollbildmodus, aber TV in FullHD funktioniert nicht immer.
<ArmbianHelper> I was able to watch the 21st stage of the Tour de France again with mpv in HD, it ran perfectly in full screen mode, but TV in FullHD doesn't always work. [de~>eng]
<archetyp> --Ich habe hier unter Armbian Buster stable 4.4.y & Enlightenment keinerlei Probleme mit der Hardwarebeschleunigung von Video.
<ArmbianHelper> I have no problems with the hardware acceleration of video here under Armbian Buster stable 4.4.y & Enlightenment. [de~>eng]
<archetyp> nekomancer[m]
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<nekomancer[m]> you have to.
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<steev> isn't the issue because hantro? i thought the video hardware accel was hantro's job, not panfrost
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> correct, panfrost is 3d
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> At this point I think we just need a properly configured ffmpeg
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> https://itsfoss.com/install-media-codecs-ubuntu/
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> that should help
<Armbian-Discord> <R​ichNeese> archetyp try this
<archetyp> --Okay, ich werde es heute Mittag versuchen, muss gleich ins Bett.
<ArmbianHelper> Okay, I'll try it at noon today, have to go to bed soon. [de~>eng]