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<[TheBug]>
Shhhhh! Be very very quiet, im hunting SBC's...
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<hyphop>
hi
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<hyphop>
where i can get last images for VIM1 VIM2 VIM3 Edge testing ... ?
<ArmbianHelper>
AR-835 [Bug] "Amlogic GLX desktop fails" reported by Igor Pecovnik at 2021-07-05. Status: In Progress
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> I dont have vim1 or vim2. Sent those to some other devs. But I'll look into that setting.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> Its 3am so im just on my phone at the moment.
<lanefu>
lol i actually gave up and decided ot get out of bed
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Hyphop I have vim 1 and 2. Is there something specific in the khadas firmware required to boot an SD image? Using mainline U-boot with the fip binaries like all other Amlogic boards didn't work.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> It worked on my VIM1 but I also wiped the eMMC a long time ago
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<stipa>
I was outside today, seems like it's drought, the grass is unusually yellow in big quantities, doesn't look good and the summer is far from over
<stipa>
there's nothing about it in media
<stipa>
i didn't mow in a three weeks and today there practically no grass to mow, it didn't grow
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> grass in your country is indeed yellow 😉 but i have spotted the same in Ljubljana. We have a large, usually green, grassland which was never this yellow.
<stipa>
yeah, it's strange
<stipa>
must be the global warming
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> It's rained a lot here so far this year, and we've had cool nights.
<stipa>
sounds good
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Getting peppers and tomatoes from the garden :-)
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> =_=
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<parabyte>
hi im playing around with armbian on a sunxi board h3 soc. i was wondering where on the sdcard do i need to point my self compiled uboot image with DD
<parabyte>
what offsets?
<parabyte>
the stock uboot hangs on my board one i built is fine i tried it with fel boot via usb
<martinayotte>
parabyte: script located in /usr/lib/u-boot/platform_install.sh is describing this offset, which is 8192 ...
<parabyte>
lanefu, martinayotte thanks very much, its friday night here, and it will be my weekend pleasure to figure this out
<parabyte>
on another note i have a s905x soc im new to this soc, xorg is using framebufer driver, performance is depressing on xorg, what drivers do i need to be looking at to get a better experience?
<parabyte>
at the moment im using it as a headless box for wifi reasons but i do wish to explore its graphical system
<parabyte>
what documentation do i need to read regarding this?
<parabyte>
the second issue isnt really a problem as i am not that motivated to play with x on a small soc but i just wished to learn a little about how to get some genuine performance
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> We haven't figured out why accelerated xorg explodes on S905X yet, it has a Mali450 GPU which is quite frankly useless for an advanced window manager.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I need to take a look and see how this performance any SoC that doesn't crash with a Mali450, my last memory is about a year old to be fair
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<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> what board malik 450
<archetech>
rneese ever get the N2+ to run kde properly?
<archetech>
i.e w/ panfrost x and wayland
<archetech>
been 6 months since I inquired
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<stipa>
seems like it's hackable and has linux you can shell in
<stipa>
much better than what 4G ISPs provide
<stipa>
there's no wifi AC though
<stipa>
so maybe 100$ is too much for it
<stipa>
too bad because going to 5G would in theory just need a new mpcie card
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<nekomancer[m]>
nobody needs 5G™
<stipa>
4G is just popular, every idiot has it
<stipa>
including me
<nekomancer[m]>
and it's good enough
<stipa>
5G is just what will simply happen
<nekomancer[m]>
for all needs of ordinary private
<nekomancer[m]>
will. in future.
<stipa>
nekomancer[m]: it's enough but 5G could provide infinite traffic, now it's capped, mine is 1TB
<stipa>
even if it's 1TB i have to be very economical
* nekomancer[m]
see no reason why 4g should have caps but 5g should not.
<nekomancer[m]>
there was "unlimited" plans on 3g, then 4g. but no one with reasonable price now.
<[TheBug]>
lol
<[TheBug]>
in USA 'unlimited' is halarious
<stipa>
?
<[TheBug]>
for a lot of USA mobiler providers they say unlimited but if you read fine print they actually give a limit
<stipa>
right, same here
<[TheBug]>
most AT&T MVNO's who offer 'unlimited' are limited to 22GB of high speed and then they literally drop you to 128kbps for the rest of the month
<stipa>
it's was frustrating
<[TheBug]>
if you know anything about how cell phones work and google services
<[TheBug]>
you will know 128kbps isn't even enough for google services to work
<[TheBug]>
so effectively it doesn't matter it's 'unlimited' as soon as you exceed the limit it becomes unusable
<nekomancer[m]>
I think it's about an everywhere. "unlimited*" * means you have to follow our "fair use policy" and no more than M gygabytes. this rules can be changed without a warning
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<[TheBug]>
yeah but in the USA they get away with the unlimited argument by stating they don't totally cut off your traffic they limit you to 2G
<[TheBug]>
but really its even slower than 2G
<[TheBug]>
its so fucking slow its functionally unusable from an Android device
<stipa>
yeah
<nekomancer[m]>
at other countriea they cut you traffic at all.
<stipa>
i got bit by that, they lowered from 1TB to 250 GB one month, i changed the ISP
<[TheBug]>
lol max included traffic in any retail plan you can get it like 22GB
<[TheBug]>
there are not even options here for 250 to 1Tb traffic
<[TheBug]>
there are some people who resell some ancient grandfathered accounts which claim to be unlimited
<[TheBug]>
but if you read the fine print if your on a busy tower and you become largest user
<[TheBug]>
it will effective QoS you to nothing anyways
<[TheBug]>
its just not quite as bad as '2g'
* nekomancer[m]
have 6 GB monthly traffic on mobile. but usage 1-3 GB for ~19€
<stipa>
that's really bad man
<stipa>
in the US
<stipa>
i heard before that it was unlimited 3G i guess and that network collapsed in the US
<stipa>
sm network*
<stipa>
GSM*
<nekomancer[m]>
<stipa "i heard before that it was unlim"> same for russia a nd somewhere in eu. at 3g epoch.
<stipa>
yeah, that's why it's capped and they say it's unlimited to sale more but it's not
<stipa>
to prevent the collapse of the network
<stipa>
to sell more*
<nekomancer[m]>
MBA boys
<stipa>
so, it's a scam supported by the laws
<nekomancer[m]>
chairborn
<stipa>
after all the infrasturucture is very buggy
<stipa>
from modems to cell towers
<stipa>
cell towers behave like they have different hardware
<stipa>
if i'm notm oving of course
<stipa>
not moving*
<stipa>
there's few cell towers around me
<stipa>
and they behave different
<nekomancer[m]>
now satellite internet kick cell providers in the ass. maybe, they turns more adequate and user-oriened... if stay alive.
<stipa>
they will if the phones will be able to receive the signal
<stipa>
and send
<nekomancer[m]>
they can lost home contracts
<stipa>
there are sat phones but i guess you have to be in the open space
<nekomancer[m]>
mobile will stay.
<stipa>
yeah, 5
<stipa>
g has similar speeds to sat
<stipa>
but there are a lot of places where there's no gsm infrastructure
* nekomancer[m]
nods
<nekomancer[m]>
but that places have tiny traffik needs
<stipa>
if the work from home gets going living in some cheap shithole in the middle in nowhere with sat net is fine
<stipa>
that's practically all intelectual work
<nekomancer[m]>
80% can-to-pay peopple have cellular coverage (maybe, excluding hard mountain regions)
<stipa>
yeah, but honestly, sending thousands satellites in space wouldn't be done by someone stupid, there has to be some planned profit out of it despite the GSM as competitor
<stipa>
maybe even GSM could use sat links
<stipa>
because gsm will stay for phones for sure
<nekomancer[m]>
cell towers use satellite links or decades
<stipa>
right
<stipa>
i didn't know that
<stipa>
but you know, if there is tech that could fit a sat modem into the phone and you could receive and send signal through 50 concrete floors in a building that would be something
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> would gsm stay when 4g-lte and 4g are better
<nekomancer[m]>
hope I will not have such radiator near me
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> 5g is the issue
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> they need to kill the cell 6g
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> 5g
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> lol
<nekomancer[m]>
afaik somewhere 2g was shutted down already
<Armbian-Discord>
<rneese> band realication
<stipa>
i guess those end up somewhere in Africa
<nekomancer[m]>
not much for a while. but process is on a way