<freemangordon>
oh, you took the one from -stable for chimaera :(
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: mesa is ready
<freemangordon>
we just need qtwebengine now
<norayr>
is there a hope that if i download a chimaera image with 6 kernel, droid3 will work better with that? (sorry sorry sorry i feel guilty each time i mention it, just i love the device so much, much more than d4, that i don't understand the design of)
<norayr>
maybe i can provide access to uvos for testing it. i can create a tor hidden service and make my home machine sshable from within tor network. i do that to connect to my machines that are behind the nat.
<norayr>
and it is a pity we weren't able to keep rafael2k, since i was not able to explain you what is necessary to improve pp state. and he did, after he appeared, pp state improved very much. it is still in bad state though.
<sicelo>
norayr: even though droid 3 has half the ram of droid 4?
<norayr>
yes, the ram i don't care that much. i care about the look. (:
<norayr>
also, on performance: yesterday i was trying to pay for parking with droid4. that meant entering some website, etc. so on d4 qt browser after login was not able to parse the page. i tried firefox, but it was not able to show the page because it is heavy. and it was slow and not responsive - not usable at all.
<norayr>
luckily i also had pinephone with me and ff on pinephone was much better, i was able to pay for the parking and not get fined.
<norayr>
our main dev device is d4, which limits our community size very much. it cannot be more than number of people who have d4. and that number is very low. if you search right now for d4 on ebay or amazon, you'll find nothing.
<norayr>
pinephone is possible to buy. and jolla published a statistics where they say, half of sailfish os installations are on pinephone!
<norayr>
btw, also on d4. after upgrade to chimaera i think typing of colon symbol by pressing 'ok' and ':' is no more possible. same with semicolon.
<norayr>
so i cannot type those symbols from hardware keyboard.
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<sicelo>
oh, that sucks
* sicelo
is still on beowulf
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: ah, did I take wrong branch?
<Wizzup>
norayr: no, droid3 will get better but nothing changed atm, I hope tmlind might have some ideas
<freemangordon>
norayr: install chromium
<freemangordon>
make sure to disable GPU acceleration though
<norayr>
will do!
<norayr>
not sure how btw.
<norayr>
but will read.
<freemangordon>
in settings search for "hardware"
<freemangordon>
re firefox - recent ff upgrade in debian made it useless on d4
<freemangordon>
maybe file a bug to upstream
<norayr>
eh, i think they don't care about old devices. we need to use gemini, that's why i packaged lagrange gemini browser.
<norayr>
and btw it is a unique build of lagrange.
<norayr>
the author created his own set of controls based on sdl. he draws with sdl.
<freemangordon>
never heard of :)
<freemangordon>
still, chromium is very fast on d4
<norayr>
and he has desktop interface and mobile interface. mobile he builds for ios and android.
<norayr>
and in linuxes if you find builds - those are desktop.
<norayr>
i made a unique build - mobile interface for linuxp
<norayr>
for linux.
<freemangordon>
do we have that in the repo?
<norayr>
yes, gemini is something between gopher and http, very simple not extensible protocol.
<norayr>
it is! but it opens gopher:// and gemini:// links.
<norayr>
i need to make video though, it crashes sometimes. and send to the upstream. i have the latest source code. the mobile interface is not well tested on linux, i guess only i built it like that.
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<sicelo>
gemini is not a solution, unfortunately
<freemangordon>
heh, it opened http:// in chromium :D
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<buZz>
that whole 'modem disappears when you connect USB' is getting kinda annoying
<buZz>
:(
<buZz>
maybe i should just run kernel 5.x again
<sicelo>
or n900 :p
<Wizzup>
buZz: 'when you connect usb'? what are you doing?
<buZz>
Wizzup: charging
<buZz>
its some bug that was introduced on 6.x rollout, that USB modem disconnects from device when 'a usb device' is detected
<buZz>
-somehow- 6.x sees random chargers as usb devices already, gives the 'PC Suite' popup, after which the modem disappeared from USB bus
<buZz>
something with the usbgadget drivers loading/unloading, i bet
<buZz>
adding a usbcondom on the cable seems to prevent it from happening, but even chargers that on 5.x never appeared as usb device , on 6.x do
<buZz>
(not a real usb device, i guess the resistors on datapins just confuse the d4 a bit)
<buZz>
(OR its my usb connection being derpy)
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<buZz>
either way, on 5.x it never happened
<Wizzup>
I don't see this
<buZz>
maybe try on a laptop's usb port? the 'PC suite' popup causes kernel messages like your earlier bug report
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<buZz>
lol wtf, dmesg now shows the rndis loading and unloading every ~0.2 seconds on having USB charger connected :D
<buZz>
maybe i should just remove rndis and see if it solves anything
<freemangordon>
weird
<buZz>
cant find that earlier bug report, dangit
<freemangordon>
hmm...
<freemangordon>
does that happen with every charger?
<buZz>
no, as i said, adding a usb condom seems to prevent it for many (maybe all?) chargers
<buZz>
(usb condom being only VCC and GND connected)
<buZz>
some chargers get the 'PC suite' popup -every- time, some only sometimes
<buZz>
the popup == modem is gone
<freemangordon>
maybe your device USB port is loose
<freemangordon>
I have never seen such issues here. Mind you, I played a lot in couple of weeks ago
<buZz>
yeah that was a idea i had aswell, guess i should take the d4 apart to see
<freemangordon>
tested with maybe 5 different chargers and 5 different USB ports
<freemangordon>
never seen popup when charger is connected
<buZz>
but you did see the popup from a laptops USB port?