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<acheam>
lords of kiss linux forgive me, for I have installed Fedora
<noocsharp>
what
<noocsharp>
of all distributions
<acheam>
I wanted a jUsTwErKs distro for my laptop
<acheam>
I tried Alpine first but it didnt just work enough
<acheam>
and then tried opensuse but couldnt get it to install
<acheam>
also KDE Plasma was a requirement
<noocsharp>
why is plasma a requirement?
<acheam>
Its my favorite desktop environment and I wanted a full desktop environment
<acheam>
I got tired of being like "hey guys yeah I can help with the project just give me 10min to connect to wifi"
<acheam>
and issues like that on OpenBSD on my laptop
<noocsharp>
but that's half the fun of running linux
<acheam>
I know
<acheam>
I'm still running oBSD on my desktop
<acheam>
But for on the go I just wanted something that would work without hassle
<acheam>
and so far I'm actually very happy with it. I forgot how convinient certain things are, like a power profile slider, and easy access to network shares and stuff
<noocsharp>
fair
<noocsharp>
i run xfce on my desktop out of convenience but it randomly breaks at least once a day
<acheam>
lol
<acheam>
too lazy to debug it?
<cem>
hehe wifi, one of the reasons I use iwd with dbus instead of eiwd or wpa_supp
<noocsharp>
i dislike the idea of desktop environments so i really don't want to waste time trying to fix it
<noocsharp>
what's the advantage of iwd with dbus over eiwd?
<acheam>
noocsharp: iwctl is a big one
<acheam>
i mean, at the end of the day
<acheam>
dbus aint that bad
<acheam>
but I understand the drive to remove it
<cem>
yeah iwctl is the most convenient wifi configuration interface I've ever used
<cem>
Though dbus is indeed pretty bad
<noocsharp>
seems like wpa_cli does the same sort of thing
<noocsharp>
but i've always used wpa_supplicant, no experience with iwctl
<cem>
Not really, they are very different
<cem>
Adding a network through wpa_cli is a huge pain in the ass
<noocsharp>
fair
<noocsharp>
i don't often connect to new wifi networks, so not a huge issue for me
<cem>
Creating a script to get network names, piping to dmenu, writing the password, and generating a configuration file is unironically easier than using wpa_cli to do it
<noocsharp>
i end up just copying and pasting existing configurations and changing the parameters
<cem>
Yeah, that's also fair, I probably wouldn't use iwd on a desktop
<noocsharp>
i use it on my laptop, i just use ethernet on desktop
<cem>
I do move around a lot with my laptop, so this was a huge annoyance for me. Trying to find the network name, using scripts, dealing with weird name schemes was my little personal hell. Now I do all of that in a couple of seconds with tab completion etc.
<noocsharp>
recently i heard something about iwd being faster than wpa_supplicant
<noocsharp>
is this true in your experience?
<noocsharp>
faster to connect to networks that is
<cem>
Yes, it is
<cem>
If you have two auto-connect wifis, and you disconnect from one, it will immediately connect to the other
<noocsharp>
neat
<cem>
Yeah, the wifi reception in my campus is actually pretty bad, and it constantly disconnects everyone. Though I don't even feel it that much because it connects to the other router as soon as it disconnects
<noocsharp>
i think my campus has wifi setup as some sort of mesh network so everything is seamless on the client end, just feels like one network
<acheam>
ugh I wish mine was like that
<acheam>
it is a mesh network
<acheam>
but if I'd say walk between buildings
<acheam>
and disconnect in the middle
<acheam>
oBSD would still try to connect to the wifi in the first building
<acheam>
or something like that
<acheam>
would require all sorts of finagling to convince it that somethings changed
<acheam>
hopefully
<testuser[m]>
Hi
<acheam>
Hi!
<acheam>
whats up?
<testuser[m]>
Nothing
<acheam>
How interesting
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<cem>
noocsharp: we have two mesh networks, one for students and one for guests. my computer swaps between them as they equally suck
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<acheam>
cem: any difference between them?
<acheam>
for us the guest network is throttled
<acheam>
also no access to printers or anything else on the lan obvs
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<phoebos>
cem: i didn't know you had dbus on carbs
<sereg>
hi there, is there somewhere i can read up on using the /etc/ld-musl-$ARCH.path? As it seems i must do this instead of using ldconfig since i'm using musl
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<testuser[m]>
sereg: just use ld.so.conf
<testuser[m]>
i think musl supports it
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<sereg>
just throw the .so file path i want in /etc/ld.so.conf? thanks!
<testuser[m]>
Not path u just have to put the directory that it is present in
<testuser[m]>
like /usr/local/lib
<sereg>
i see, thanks muchly!
<testuser[m]>
U can confirm whether the file is ld.so.conf or ld-musl-bla.path with strace
<testuser[m]>
it will show at the beginning of the log