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<acheam> noocsharp, midfavila: I'm currently dual booting windows and fedora on both my computers
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<phoebos> why
<bibliocar> masochism, I bet.
<acheam> shit they're onto me
<noocsharp> what's windows
<acheam> those things on the sides of houses
<noocsharp> so on one foot you have a fedora and on the other windows?
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<acheam> haha not that kind of boot
<acheam> I think some people call it the trunk?
<noocsharp> well if that's what you're into
<acheam> phoebos: windows-only software, video games
<acheam> fedora because I dont care anymore
<noocsharp> what do you play that doesn't run on linux
<bibliocar> I have a gaming laptop with ubuntu. I play minecraft on it.
<acheam> well I was going to say Just Cause 3, but I looked it up on protondb just now, and aparently proton has improved a lot since I last tried it
<acheam> will have to give it another go
<acheam> although I do still have some windows only software to run
<acheam> VM just wasnt cutting it, I wanted multi monitors and stuff
<bibliocar> I'm learning about two dimensional binary search trees.
<bibliocar> because mouse events and buttons
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<phinxy> I built pigz, then removed it.  Now theres no gzip on the system so kiss can't do much.
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<phinxy> Isnt gzip in busybox, it says no applet.
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<phinxy> I must have gotten a default busybox config when I tried to enable FEATURE_EDITING_VI with make menuconfig.
<phinxy> Ugh, can't recompile busybox due to gzip missing.
<phoebos> oof
<phoebos> here's an unzipped tar of the pigz source: https://tmp.bvnf.space/pigz-2.6.tar
<phoebos> s/zipped/gzipped/
<acheam> as long as you have a c compiler you can always bootstrap something to recover yourself... but having like phoebos around is always faster :)
<acheam> s/like/someone like/g
<phoebos> :)
<phinxy> Had anyone reported audio issue, like no speaker sound for instance, with kisslinux?
<phinxy> Speakers works on Sabotagelinux, the kernelconfig is the same, tried the same kernel, dmesg output is the same for the cards autoconfig, the mixer is not muted or volume low.
<phoebos> you're in the audio group?
<phinxy> I guess so, root user.
<midfavila> acheam you piece of shit
<midfavila> i'm literally going to get the bayonet and cut the fedora and windows out of you
<midfavila> (after I hopefully sleep)
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<testuser[m]> Hi
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<NV6> Hey
<testuser[m]> Hi
<testuser[m]> NV6: In your kernel config, alsa is built as a module
<testuser[m]> could you try making it built-in ?
<NV6> I've tried this before, but with pulseaudio. I can try to make it a built-in real quick
<testuser[m]> also whats your output
<testuser[m]> headphones?
<testuser[m]> not that it matters
<NV6> yeah, headphones
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<testuser[m]> and a lot of the options under alsa are marked a modules aswell, try marking everything as built-in
<testuser[m]> or you could try to modprobe everything
<testuser[m]> in /lib/modules/x.y.z/
<NV611> currently recompiling the kernel, so we'll see 😛
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<NV6> hmm, seem to be getting this: https://termbin.com/2c1z2, could there be other settings I have to change to be a module?
<testuser[m]> also did u start the pipewire daemon and set pipewire as default in /etc/asound.conf ?
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<NV6> hmm, seem to be getting this: https://termbin.com/2c1z2, could there be other settings I have to change to be a module?
<testuser[m]> i guess its saying "unknown symbol" cuz other modules arent loaded, not sure
<phinxy> NV6 you want to depmod`
<testuser[m]> but they have dependency resolution so
<testuser[m]> oh yeah
<NV6> o right
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<testuser[m]> NV6: you forgor 💀 to mark everything under HD-Audio as built-in aswell
<NV6> oop i forgor
<NV6> sec
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<NV6> same issue seems to persist after changing the options under HD Audio to be built-in, am I forgetting anything xD
<testuser[m]> <testuser[m]> "also did u start the pipewire..." <- .
<phinxy> NV6, what's your issue?
<NV6> can u send the entire message? kiwiirc doesn't seem to display the message
<testuser[m]> also did u start the pipewire daemon and set pipewire as default in /etc/asound.conf ?
<NV6> @phinxy https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/discussions/370, issue was just alsa first, having the same issue now but trying to get pipewire to work as well.
<NV6> and yeah I did testuser[m]
<testuser[m]> What does pipewire output
<testuser[m]> When you just run `pipewire`
<testuser[m]> And what does `speaker-test` say
<NV6> when I run pipewire when it'the daemon is already started?
<testuser[m]> No
<testuser[m]> Whatever it said when u started it
<testuser[m]> Also is mdev running
<NV6> https://termbin.com/5kw6 speaker-test seems to be outputting this now, whereas whenever I had my alsa modules as modules it would detect the outputs in here.
<testuser[m]> Host is down meas pipewire not runninh
<testuser[m]> Running
<testuser[m]> what user are you running pipewire as
<NV6> oh wait, speaker-test seems to be doing something now, my bad
<NV6> sec
<testuser[m]> Inb4 you forgor 💀 to unmute
<NV6> oops
<NV6> uhh
<NV6> that's old sec
<NV6> finally
<testuser[m]> Pipewire shouldnt be complaining of that rtkit stuff
<testuser[m]> Try the community package
<testuser[m]> It's patched out
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<testuser[m]> Also ls -l /dev/snd
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<NV6> alright
<NV6> https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/afulakifes.md after recompiling pipewire with the community version
<testuser[m]> this is fine
<testuser[m]> but
<testuser[m]> '/dev/snd' failed: No such file or directory what
<NV6> uh, seems like /dev/snd doesn't exist but it used to, quite confused
<NV6> hmmm
<testuser[m]> bruh
<testuser[m]> mdev?
<NV6> mdevd should be running
<testuser[m]> it exists in /var/service right
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> ls
<NV6> dbus   mdevd  seatd
<testuser[m]> why did u install dbus
<testuser[m]> remove dbus and
<testuser[m]> its mdev not mdevd
<testuser[m]> the service name
<testuser[m]> lol
<NV6> uh oh
<NV6> i'll remove dbus in a second, was doing some testing
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<NV6> still same, also still this btw: https://termbin.com/lpr3
<testuser[m]> depmod again
<testuser[m]> and did u reboot after fixing mdev
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> I did
<testuser[m]> /dev/snd doesnt exist?
<NV6> nope
<testuser[m]> how
<testuser[m]> bruh
<NV6> quite strange though, since it used to exist
<testuser[m]> wait
<testuser[m]> send your new config once
<NV6> kernel config?
<testuser[m]> yea
<NV6> ight sec
<NV6> there
<testuser[m]> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<testuser[m]> pgrep mdev
<NV6> 280
<testuser[m]> Xorg works?
<testuser[m]> and input
<NV6> yep
<NV6> I'm in xorg rn
<testuser[m]> ls -l /dev/input shows everything owned by root:input ?
<NV6> yeah
<testuser[m]> u sure u booted into the new kernel
<testuser[m]> cuz it doesnt even have intel snd stuff as a module
<NV6> yeah I'm sure
<testuser[m]> so it shouldnt show dmesg
<NV6> wait
<testuser[m]> rm -rf /lib/modules/x.y.z and do make modules_install again
<testuser[m]> then depmod
<testuser[m]> u arent manually loading any modules right?
<NV6> oops.. i was modprobing snd-hda-intel in my inittab
<testuser[m]> except for nvidia
<testuser[m]> yeah
<NV6> lmao yeah
<NV6> completely forgot about that
<testuser[m]> still clean up the old modules
<NV6> alright sec
<testuser[m]> but you'd have to rebuild nvidia again
<NV6> that's alright
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<NV6> yep, the dmesg messages are gone
<NV6> and /dev/snd still is not there, which was to be expected
<testuser[m]> how tf
<NV6> i actually have no idea anymore lol
<NV6> it used to exist when i had everything under alsa as a module
<testuser[m]> can u try with my kernel config
<NV6> sure
<testuser[m]> but it might not work depending on ur hw
<NV6> what's your hw?
<testuser[m]> do ./scripts/kconfig/merge_config.sh -n .config
<testuser[m]> ryzen 5 3600 and usb wifi adapter and novideo gpu
<NV6> alright, will try
<testuser[m]> but i dont have an nvme ssd so it doesnt support htat
<testuser[m]> enable it if u have one
<NV6> yeah i don't have a nvme ssd
<NV6> i think i have pretty generic hw
<NV6>   AR      drivers/media/built-in.a
<NV6> make: *** [Makefile:1868: drivers] Error 2
<NV6> could the issue be my kernel version?
<testuser[m]> show the full log
<testuser[m]> it will be near "Waiting for unfinished jobs"
<testuser[m]> if u cant find it then just do `make -j1` it will tell
<NV6> oh wait, it's amd ucode
<NV6> sec
<testuser[m]> its supposed to be in /lib/firmware
<NV6> yeah, but i don't have an AMD cpu :P
<testuser[m]> Then remove it
<NV6> yeah I did
<testuser[m]> It's some firmware option
<NV6> sec
<testuser[m]> Where u can build blobs into your kernel
<NV6> is it AMD microcode loading support?
<testuser[m]> no
<testuser[m]> The option allows u to set paths
<testuser[m]> Wait
<testuser[m]> CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE*
<NV6> do I just remove the path?
<testuser[m]> Ye
<testuser[m]> And the blob names
<NV6> alrgiht
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<NV6> kernel seems to have booted perfectly fine, although still no /dev/snd
<NV6> lspci -k does not seem to show my sound driver either
<testuser[m]> Bruh
<testuser[m]> Ok this is cursed
<NV6> yep i'm hella confused
<testuser[m]> Does ur monitor have speakers
<NV6> it does not
<testuser[m]> Try ur headphones in another port
<testuser[m]> Idk what to do now
<NV6> I know my audio source works by the way, it works using my windows HDD
<NV6> it's alright, can't seem to find any solution to this lol
<NV6> haven't had any sound on linux for the past 20 days xD
<phinxy> What's required to get audio playing through speakers?  Known working kernel.  alsa-lib, alsa-utils.  sound card listed with aplay -l.  volume and not muted (green 00?) in mixer.  what else?
<NV6> sound card is not listed through aplay -l anymore, and can't execute alsamixer anymore either (after recompiling with everything under alsa as builtin)
<NV6> alsamixer -
<NV6> cannot open mixer: Host is down
<NV6> aplay -l -
<NV6> aplay: device_list:274: no soundcards found...
<testuser[m]> pipewire doesnt run right
<NV6> [W][00575.144953] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x55eaf8d59310: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00575.145520] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [E][00575.146912] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-portal" was found
<NV6> [W][00575.150240] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x55e1bc981e10: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00575.150740] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [W][00575.152201] ms.mod.access-portal | [ access-portal.c:  623 get_dbus_connection()] no dbus connection, portal access disabled
<NV6> [E][00575.152410] ms.mod.alsa-midi | [     alsa-midi.c:  150 start_inotify()] inotify_add_watch() '/dev/snd' failed: No such file or directory
<NV6> pipewire says this
<NV6> the /dev/snd thing
<testuser[m]> not able to find any info
<testuser[m]> "gentoo /dev/snd doesnt exist"
<testuser[m]> no results
<NV6> yep nothing for arch either
<phinxy> Whats the last thing you did before /snd was gonzo?
<testuser[m]> what if you do `mkdir /dev/snd` and `sv restart mdev`
<testuser[m]> phinxy: earlier all alsa stuff was built as a module
<testuser[m]> now its built-in
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> it stopped working after changing it toa  built-in
<NV6> e
<NV6> ok
<NV6> `/dev/snd` stays empty if I do that ^
<testuser[m]> yeah it was just a random guess
<phinxy> What does mdev have to do with this?
<testuser[m]> mdev handles creation and perms on stuff in /dev
<NV6> yeah no I'm completely lost at this point
<phinxy> Me too.
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<testuser[m]> says udev proble
<testuser[m]> but
<testuser[m]> ok save ur current config once and go back to the last one where everything was a module
<phinxy> I don't have any mdev service and I got /dev/snd ..
<NV6> okay I'll try that testuser[m]
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<NV6> yep, still no /dev/snd...
<testuser[m]> What
<NV6> `run: mdev: (pid 265) 152s`, lsmod: https://termbin.com/2p06
<testuser[m]> modprobe the intel snd
<testuser[m]> thing
<NV6> wrong termbin
<NV6> sec
<testuser[m]> check dmesg
<testuser[m]> for errors
<NV6> oh yeah
<NV6> there are some
<NV6> sec
<testuser[m]> did u run depmod lol
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> I ran modprobe snd_hda_intel before you told me to
<NV6> as well ^
<testuser[m]> installed the new modules?
<testuser[m]> with make modules_install
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> modinfo does see the module
<NV6> sec
<testuser[m]> it exists
<testuser[m]> but its not finding what it needs
<NV6> I can send the edited .config, because I edited your configuration with the things under alsa changed to modulews
<NV6> here
<testuser[m]> o i had asked u to use your old config
<NV6> I forgot to back it up ;(
<testuser[m]> bru u send it on the shithub discussion
<NV6> oh right
<NV6> i forgot
<NV6> sec
<NV6> mb
<NV6> not the brightest at 9 am when I haven't slept yet
<phinxy> What timezone are you in NV6?
<NV6> CEST I think
<NV6> GMT+1
<NV6> wait i think that's EST
<NV6> no
<NV6> i'm confused
<NV6> uhhh
<NV6> oh CET
<phinxy> Kay
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<NV6> yep, now I seem to be back to my original problem, /dev/snd seems to exist, but no audio
<phinxy> Do you have audio on other distributions ?
<NV6> I do have audio on Windows, and previously my audio worked on Gentoo as well
<testuser[m]> now what does pipewire way
<testuser[m]> say
<testuser[m]> when you run it
<NV6> [W][00191.308966] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x56495dada320: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00191.309266] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [E][00191.309985] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-portal" was found
<NV6> [W][00191.311742] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x55f8ee0d2e10: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00191.312019] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [W][00191.312760] ms.mod.access-portal | [ access-portal.c:  623 get_dbus_connection()] no dbus connection, portal access disabled
<NV6> [W][00191.321247] ms.mod.alsa-monitor | [  alsa-monitor.c:  905 do_device_acquire()] no dbus connection, device reservation disabled
<NV6> [W][00191.425443] ms.mod.alsa-monitor | [  alsa-monitor.c:  905 do_device_acquire()] no dbus connection, device reservation disabled
<NV6> could I have to recompile it without having dbus installed?
<testuser[m]> yeah try that
<NV6> alright
<testuser[m]> after that try unmuting
<testuser[m]> `amixer -c 1 set Master 5%+ unmute`
<testuser[m]> change the -c 1 to 1 2 3 4 5 whatever works
<phinxy> its 0 for me
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<NV6> wait, what command did you ask me to do?
<NV6> accidentally closed irc
<testuser[m]> `amixer -c 1 set Master 5%+ unmute` after rebuilding pipewire without dbus and starting the pipewire daemon
<NV6> `amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0`
<NV6> `[W][00353.761292] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x557019ec4320: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00353.761530] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [E][00353.762087] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-portal" was found
<NV6> [W][00353.763387] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x556a9a4a6e10: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00353.763584] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> `
<NV6> new pipewire output ^
<testuser[m]> thats fine
<testuser[m]> `for i in $(seq 100); do amixer -c $i set Master 5%+ unmute && echo $i && break; done`
<testuser[m]> try thisl ol
<NV6> everything above 1 says `Invalid card number \`x\``, 1 outputs the message I sent earlier.
<NV6> don't mind the formatting lol
<testuser[m]> ls -l /dev/snd
<testuser[m]> speaker-test doesnt work right
<NV6> [W][00353.761292] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x557019ec4320: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00353.761530] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [E][00353.762087] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-portal" was found
<NV6> [W][00353.763387] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x556a9a4a6e10: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00353.763584] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> oops
<NV6> sent wrong one twice
<NV6>  speaker-test
<NV6> speaker-test 1.2.5.1
<NV6> Playback device is default
<NV6> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
<NV6> Using 16 octaves of pink noise
<NV6> Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
<NV6> Buffer size range from 128 to 2097152
<NV6> Period size range from 64 to 1048576
<NV6> Using max buffer size 2097152
<NV6> Periods = 4
<NV6> was set period_size = 524288
<NV6> was set buffer_size = 2097152
<NV6>  0 - Mono
<NV6> Time per period = 11.291628
<NV6>  0 - Mono
<NV6> that's speakertest
<NV6> ls -l /dev/snd
<testuser[m]> aplay -l
<phinxy> `speaker-test -c2 -Dhw:0,0` ?
<testuser[m]> NV6: show contents of /etc/asound.conf
<testuser[m]> make sure u dont have an ~/.asoundrc
<NV6> `speaker-test -c2 -Dhw:0,0
<NV6> speaker-test 1.2.5.1
<NV6> Playback device is hw:0,0
<NV6> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
<NV6> Using 16 octaves of pink noise
<NV6> Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
<NV6> Buffer size range from 64 to 1048576
<NV6> Period size range from 32 to 524288
<NV6> Using max buffer size 1048576
<NV6> Periods = 4
<NV6> was set period_size = 262144
<NV6> was set buffer_size = 1048576
<NV6>  0 - Front Left
<NV6>  1 - Front Right
<NV6> Time per period = 10.933730
<NV6>  0 - Front Left
<NV6>  1 - Front Right
<NV6> Time per period = 10.931071
<testuser[m]> it seems to be working
<testuser[m]> alsamixer
<testuser[m]> and unmute
<NV6> don't have a ~/.asoundrc
<testuser[m]> hmm thats fine
<phinxy> defaults.pcm.card 0
<phinxy> defaults.ctl.card 0
<NV6> where should I put that?
<testuser[m]> what does alsamixer show
<NV6> testuser[m] alsamixer doesn't seem to be muted, checked every source
<testuser[m]> what phixy is saying will require u to use pure alsa
<testuser[m]> u can try that too
<phinxy> Oh sorry.
<NV6> o
<testuser[m]> NV6: green MM means unmuted and transparent means muted
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> wait
<NV6> green MM?
<testuser[m]> and what does it show in F6?
<NV6> what about green OO?
<testuser[m]> yeah
<testuser[m]> that
<NV6> F6 shows:
<NV6> - (default)
<NV6> default:0 HDA Intel PCH
<NV6> default:1 HDA NVidia
<NV6> - (default) is PipeWire
<testuser[m]> show ss of pipewire
<testuser[m]> i n alsamixer
<NV6> can I send screenshots on IRC?
<testuser[m]> upload on 0x0.st
<NV6> oh there
<testuser[m]> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
<testuser[m]> how is it not working
<NV6> could it be related to firefox?
<testuser[m]> no
<NV6> isn't speaker-test supposed to play audio?
<testuser[m]> it should play noise
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> I can't hear anything
<testuser[m]> bruh
<testuser[m]> now u can try without pipewire i guess
<testuser[m]> just kill the daemon
<testuser[m]> and rm /etc/asound.conf
<NV6> alright
<phinxy> Try `alsacfg init`
<phinxy> alsactl*
<NV6> oh right
<NV6> [W][00353.761292] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x557019ec4320: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00353.761530] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> [E][00353.762087] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-portal" was found
<NV6> [W][00353.763387] pw.context   | [       context.c:  462 pw_context_new()] 0x556a9a4a6e10: can't load dbus library: support/libspa-dbus
<NV6> [E][00353.763584] pw.module    | [   impl-module.c:  266 pw_context_load_module()] No module "libpipewire-module-rtkit" was found
<NV6> oops wrong one
<NV6> alsa-lib parser.c:2372:(load_toplevel_config) Unable to find the top-level configuration file '/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/ucm.conf'.
<NV6> alsa-lib main.c:1405:(snd_use_case_mgr_open) error: failed to import hw:0 use case configuration -2
<NV6> Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALCS1200A" "HDA:10ec0b00,18491204,00100001 HDA:8086280b,80860101,00100000" "0x1849" "0x1204"
<NV6> Hardware is initialized using a generic method
<NV6> alsa-lib parser.c:2372:(load_toplevel_config) Unable to find the top-level configuration file '/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/ucm.conf'.
<NV6> alsa-lib main.c:1405:(snd_use_case_mgr_open) error: failed to import hw:1 use case configuration -2
<NV6> Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Nvidia GPU 71 HDMI/DP" "HDA:10de0071,19da2370,00100100" "0x19da" "0x2370"
<NV6> Hardware is initialized using a generic method
<phinxy> and try that speaker test now
<NV6> still no noise through speaker-test
<NV6> deleted /etc/asound.conf, killed pipewire daemon
<testuser[m]> try this asound.conf
<testuser[m]> mess with `pcm "hw:1,0"`
<NV6> speaker-test 1.2.5.1
<NV6> Playback device is default
<NV6> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
<NV6> Using 16 octaves of pink noise
<NV6> Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
<NV6> Buffer size range from 12000 to 18000
<NV6> Period size range from 6000 to 6000
<NV6> Using max buffer size 18000
<NV6> Periods = 4
<NV6> was set period_size = 6000
<NV6> was set buffer_size = 18000
<NV6>  0 - Front Left
<NV6> Time per period = 2.624883
<NV6>  0 - Front Left
<NV6> with `pcm "hw:0,0"
<testuser[m]> check in alsamixer aswell
<NV6> not muted as far as I can tell
<NV6> sec
<NV6> I have no idea what all of these settings are to be honest
<testuser[m]> Hmm
<testuser[m]> same
<testuser[m]> i jus flip till it works
<NV6> I can try to turn everything up
<NV6> sec
<NV6> still nothing lol
<NV6> wtf
<phinxy> Did you have audio at any time using kisslinux NV6?
<phinxy> before I mean
<NV6> nope, never
<NV6> I've had this issue from the very beginning
<phinxy> Well, I have the same issue for what its worth.
<NV6> I think I'm gonna have to go to bed first, it's 10 AM and I'm extremely tired
<NV6> thanks for all of the help so far
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<phinxy> HOLY SHIT I FIXED IT !
<testuser[m]> what wasit
<phinxy> I compiled alsa-lib and alsa-utils with sabotage buildscript
<phinxy> boom!  sound.
<phinxy> Either a patch or configuration of sabotage's Alsa is better.  It's simply not the version number, I tried that before.
<phinxy> NV6:  Compiling alsa-lib&alsa-utils with sabotagelinux's patches&buildscript made snd_hda_intel work for me.  :)
<testuser[m]> did u convert that into a kiss build file?
<testuser[m]> or just used butch
<phinxy> I did the steps manually and tar'd the results
<phinxy> but.. after rebooting now it doesnt work any longer :(
<testuser[m]> Bruh
<phinxy> The reson for the reboot was /dev/dri/gpu0 was "gone"
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<bibliocar> I'm going to make my own image format to use in place of svgs, with static linking and math, including math.h functions
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<kjani> Hello ! Just popped in because I had made up my mind to start using source based distros, but the only issue I usually have is with the installation and the manual configuration of the kernel where I usually miss adding drivers for some components of my hardware?? is there an autoconf tool which can automatically build a kernel config for me or can I use a distribution kernel config ??
<testuser[m]> u can use distribution configs and tweak
<phoebos> doesn't gentoo have something like that you can use
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<kjani> phoebos: Dont know that is why I came here, I was seeing a list of source based distros and I saw gentoo carbs exherbo and kiss (sourcemage also but I think it is discontinued) I am not a complete noob and have installed gentoo once but I want to use a source based distro as a daily driver what would you prefer (gentoo, exherbo, kiss, carbs or maybe install void and go for xbps-src or smthing) pls help
<phoebos> try them out, see what you like. gentoo is ridiculously complicated, kiss is completely understandable. carbs is a nice fork of kiss, idk about exherbo
<kjani> Yeah I saw that kiss was way simpler to install than gentoo, cool I am getting myself an iso that I can install kiss using it and lets see how stuff goes on
<kjani> Will a tool like this work for me https://github.com/nichoski/kergen
<kjani> ??
<midfavila> try it and find out. using automatic tools won't teach you anything about how your system works though
<midfavila> best to configure the kernel by hand at least a few times.
<testuser[m]> kjani: maybe it would but you would have no idea when some kernel feature stops working on an update
<midfavila> or at least copy a configuration from debian or somesuch...
<kjani> midfavila: I have tried to use the make menuconfig option but a lot of the times the kernel does not boot, and because it takes me almost helf a day to install it in a chroot and after the boot nothing happens I lose all hope and go back to debian or arch, maybe this time I will use a debian config and try to atleast get used to the kiss lifestyle and in the next release eventually try make menuconfig and if that does not work
<kjani> thankfully I will have a config that will so win-win :)
<kjani> okay im going to shutdown and boot from the iso and connect to irc from there
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<kjani> Hello ! its me again I am stuck on the KISS_PATH thing any advice??
<phoebos> what's your problem
<phoebos> did your kernel boot
<kjani> I donot know how it works, how do I set the kiss path, the wiki says to setup a profile file
<kjani> phoebos: I have not built it yet I just started to install
<phoebos> put `export KISS_PATH=path/to/repo:path/to/community` in ~/.profile
<phoebos> or whatever
<kjani> phoebos: Thanks !!
<kjani> On it
<phoebos> the file ~/.profile is sourced by the shell at login
<kjani> Cool
<phoebos> so this sets the environ variable KISS_PATH for all your sessions
<phoebos> if in .profile you set ENV=~/.ashrc or something, then you can put similar commands in ~/.ashrc which are sourced for each interactive shell
<phoebos> time to reboot for syspatch 008
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<kjani> phoebos: Thanks ! that worked going to the next step now
<kjani> Building gnupg1
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<kjani> Guys any help on build flags ??
<kjani> export CFLAGS="-O3 -pipe -march=native" this is waht the wiki recommends but fyi i donot have a very good pc so anything that might help in faster compilations would be appriciated
<testuser[m]> It's fine
<kjani> Cool !
<kjani> Also when I do need to use LLVM or Rust can I just use the binaries on the kiss-community/bin repo ?? does anyone use these because according to my experiance llvm and rust takes very long to compile
<phoebos> yes, that's what the bin repo is for
<kjani> phoebos: I have now done the kiss update process and now I need to install the kernel the wiki says that "your kernel must be able to locate and mount the root filesystem without the use of modules. In other words, these drivers should be "baked in" (=y) (not =m)." What does this mean ??
<phoebos> have you configure the kernel yet
<phoebos> s/configure/configured/
<phoebos> some drivers and other things may be built as modules rather than built-in, gentoo has a lot of resources about this
<kjani> Okay let me lock at the gentoo wiki then
<kjani> *look
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<phoebos> apologies for the ins and outs
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<akira01> Yo guys
<akira01> someone know a lightweight dependencies for animated wallpaper in wayland?
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<soliwilos> akira01: There's wayab. I haven't tried it yet, but I kept note of it for some time I'd get around to it: https://github.com/chux0519/wayab
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<phinxy> Good morning assholes.
<NV6> good morning asshole.
<phinxy> I discovered this thick black snot in my nose.  disgusting!
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<phinxy> I can feel this day is going to be better than last night.  It seems like alsamixers controls does not affect the card.  Volume or mute doesn't do anything.  8 hours ago I had no sound, then after a nights sleep, there is now sound from speaker-test and aplay.  But controls are not working.
<NV6> I still do not have any sound whatsoever lol, how were you able to compile it using sabotage's script?
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<phinxy> Manually, looking at the buildscript and copy/pasting each line.  Then after making it, installed it with kiss.  But, as I said, it could have been a fluke it started working
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<Tom10> How can I get the -lGL flag for opengl development? Installing libglvnd and rebuilding mesa makes GLFW complain about not finding GL/gl.h
<phinxy> NV6, the "PCM" bar affects the volume in alsamixer, but "Master" or anything else does not.  So Master can be muted but if PCM is max that's max volume.
<phinxy> Tom, you might need to enable some meson flag, too.
<NV6> yeah PCM already seems to be max
<Tom10> phinxy: of glfw or mesa? Maybe I need to enable another flag for libglvnd for glfw
<phinxy> Tom10, mesa I mean. It's supposed to set -Dglvnd="${glvnd_enabled:-false}"  perhaps its not picking it up?  When I'm debugging kiss builds I put a `pwd; read -p "blah"` at the top and then cd in to the directory, you could print meson configuration with `meson configure output`
<Tom10> phinxy: I will try that, thank you
<phinxy> NV6: might work for you but didnt help me, do you find your sound card in here? https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.15/sound/hd-audio/models.html#stac9220-9221
<phinxy> the name of the card should show with `aplay -l`
<Tom10> phinxy: Just checked and the build script is working (-Dglvnd is set to true)
<Tom10> mesa installation still does not produce libGL.so though :/ (find / -name "libGL.so")
<Tom10> for some reason I have libGLES though
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<phinxy> I'm not familiar with GLES so it might be a trivial thing.  But scroll up to the ./configure output and see if it mentions anything about glvnd.
<Tom10> Just noticed I can use GLES, -lGLESv2 flag allows me to compile my programs without any problems so I will be using it :P
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<NV6> phinxy my sound card is not on there, I have an ALCS1200A
<NV6> I've checked that before
<phinxy> NV6 ALC88x/898/1150/1220 probably the right category
<phinxy> Do you have a device thats in there?
<NV6> `dual-codecs
<NV6>     ALC1220 dual codecs for Gaming mobos`
<NV6> could it be this? I have an ASRock Z490 Pro4
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<phinxy> Try it.  Did you compile snd-hda-intel module or built-in?
<NV6> It's currently compiled as module, since when I compiled it as built-in /dev/snd didn't exist.
<phinxy> Great
<NV6> oh wait, just found `asrock-mobo` on it, could try that instead
<phinxy> keep it that way and edit /etc/modprobe.d/something.conf with `options snd-hda-intel model=macbook` for instance
<NV6> alright
<phinxy> then `rmmod snd_hda_intel`, `modprobe snd_hda_intel`
<NV6> I'll try that
<phinxy> I did try all the macbook variants, sometimes things looked different in alsamixer, showing that modprobe picked up the options
<NV6> still nothing '=(
<NV6> should I try to restart?
<phinxy> no wait.
<phinxy> so lsmod
<phinxy> what's the output?
<NV6> there
<phinxy> rmmod snd_hda_intel; rmmod snd_hda_codec_realtek;
<phinxy> then `modprobe snd_hda_intel`
<NV6> still nothing
<phinxy> any new output in dmesg?
<NV6> https://termbin.com/rmdg4 (dmesg | grep snd), here's the entire dmesg https://termbin.com/paso
<phinxy> asrock-mobo looks like a bad fit
<phinxy> ALC66x/67x/892
<phinxy> something under  ALC88x/898/1150/1220 might work
<phinxy> ` hdaudio hdaudioC0D2: Unable to configure, disabling `
<NV6> oops, was looking under the wrong section
<phinxy> that looks weird.
<phinxy> could be because of the asrock-mobo being totally wrong
<NV6> not sure what that means, could that be caused by a wrong codec?
<NV6> yeah
<NV6> `dual-codecs` is the closest one I can find, I guess.
<phinxy> No? That's also under ALC66x/67x/892, you said you had a 1200
<phinxy> Oh wait
<phoebos> Tom10: kiss-owns and kiss-manifest are your friends instead of `find / -name xxx`
<NV6> it's under both `ALC66x/67x/892` and `ALC88x/898/1150/1220`