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<riteo>
hiiiiiii!
<GalaxyNova>
hi
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<GalaxyNova>
acheam: Is it feasable to "daily drive" chorizo
<GalaxyNova>
as a browser
<riteo>
ig it depends on what you want to do with it
<GalaxyNova>
browse the web
<GalaxyNova>
watch youtube
<riteo>
with or without a proxy like invidious?
<GalaxyNova>
idc about proxies
<riteo>
then I guess that depends on whether JS is implemented in chorizo or not
<GalaxyNova>
it's webkitgtk soooo
<GalaxyNova>
I'm asking acheam because it's his program
<riteo>
right
<GalaxyNova>
I would really love to get rid of firefox
<riteo>
well if you'd want to do that, chorizo or not you should avoid completely (and not plan to use) any js-rich website (or, even better, use only js-free sites)
<riteo>
this way you could use way simpler browsers, if not even lynx
<GalaxyNova>
yeah... That's not a real option unfortunately
<riteo>
sadly that's the case most times
<GalaxyNova>
I need to use discord, microsoft teams, and youtube
<riteo>
actually I think that for discord and youtube you could use dedicated clients
<riteo>
but I have no idea if teams has one
<riteo>
and I'm not talking about official ones
<riteo>
(also because discord's is literally a chromium wrapper)
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<riteo>
did you clone the repos?
<riteo>
just setting the path does nothing
<riteo>
dilyn: I just found out that curl is used only for https. I wonder how much disabling it or building in a custom build with only HTTPS would trim it down
<testuser[m]>
why wonder when you can `kiss b`
<zuckerschlecken>
Yes i have cloned the repos ; kiss update = -> Everything is up to date ; the directories (baselayout ... zlib) are all there
<testuser[m]>
send full kiss update log
<zuckerschlecken>
baselayout
<zuckerschlecken>
bzip2
<zuckerschlecken>
binutils
<zuckerschlecken>
bison
<zuckerschlecken>
busybox
<zuckerschlecken>
curl
<zuckerschlecken>
flex
<zuckerschlecken>
gcc
<zuckerschlecken>
git
<zuckerschlecken>
kiss
<zuckerschlecken>
linux-headers
<riteo>
does /root/repos/repo/extra have gnupg1?
<zuckerschlecken>
m4
<zuckerschlecken>
make
<riteo>
bruh
<zuckerschlecken>
musl
<riteo>
you're spamming
<zuckerschlecken>
openssl
<testuser[m]>
that means you havent got any repos in your kiss path
<zuckerschlecken>
pigz
<zuckerschlecken>
xz
<zuckerschlecken>
zlib
<zuckerschlecken>
-> Everything is up to date
<testuser[m]>
they just pasted the newlines
<testuser[m]>
they're orphaned packages since nothing is found by kiss in repos other tan /var/db/kiss
<testuser[m]>
thats why kiss lists them
<riteo>
oooh good catch
<riteo>
zuckerschlecken, again: do those folders have anything inside them?
<riteo>
the ones you specified in path?
<zuckerschlecken>
in /mnt/repos/repo/extra are many folders from adwaita to zstd
<testuser[m]>
then why do you have /ROOT/repos
<zuckerschlecken>
Dont know - was the place were i where following the instuctions?
<zuckerschlecken>
i think ~ was root at this time
<testuser[m]>
KISS_PATH="$(echo "$KISS_PATH" | sed 's|root/|mnt/|g')"
<testuser[m]>
Replace root pathw ith /mnt path
<testuser[m]>
Where you actually have the repos
<zuckerschlecken>
Oh - i am such an idiot - i am very sorry. I stoped installing yesterday and have forgetten a step today. kiss update is heavy working at the moment
<zuckerschlecken>
Thank you all for your time and your efforts
<riteo>
no worries, everyone makes mistakes
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<GalaxyNova>
what do you guys think about rust
<testuser[m]>
other than super slow build times its fine i guess
<testuser[m]>
and needing llvm
<msk[m]>
it's supposed to be like C++, right
<testuser[m]>
safe c++
<GalaxyNova>
msk[m]: It feels like a mixture of C++ and javascript / typescript to me
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<GalaxyNova>
also does anyone know a browser that DOESN'T suck?
<GalaxyNova>
and that doesn't take 999 hours to compile
<necromansy>
no, all browsers suck by way of the net sucking
<necromansy>
depends on your use case
<msk[m]>
maybe uzbl? it looks interesting
<msk[m]>
and yeah the web sucks too much
<msk[m]>
today I tried w3l, hoping it would be a great terminal browser, but no
<testuser[m]>
Links2
<GalaxyNova>
one that can display github, microsoft teams and discord
<necromansy>
links2 out of the question then
<testuser[m]>
it can display shithub
<GalaxyNova>
just not well
<testuser[m]>
brow.sh is good but it needs pozilla ff
<GalaxyNova>
There has to be a decent webkitgtk browser
<testuser[m]>
it can display shitcord too probably
<msk[m]>
I've heard good things about w3m but it needs glibc, right
<testuser[m]>
check badwolf
<necromansy>
i dont get browsh
<msk[m]>
what's wrong with surf GalaxyNova
<GalaxyNova>
brow.sh is just a filter over a firefox backend
<necromansy>
^
<GalaxyNova>
does surf support wayland?
<necromansy>
no
<necromansy>
it needs xlib headers
<GalaxyNova>
I need one that supports wayland
<msk[m]>
what about qutebrowser
<GalaxyNova>
chromium
<testuser[m]>
surf does work on wayland
<testuser[m]>
1 line patch
<necromansy>
oh i thought it didnt?
<necromansy>
nvm
<necromansy>
neat
<msk[m]>
qutebrowser uses a fork of chromium
<necromansy>
qutebrowser needs to have dbus patched out too
<necromansy>
tho im sure someone's done that already
<testuser[m]>
it uses webshit as backend so if webshit supports it, it will work :p
<msk[m]>
I patched dbus out when installing it, it was easy
<msk[m]>
in my build script just added some sed calls
<testuser[m]>
qutebrowser is far from not sucking lol
<necromansy>
noice
<msk[m]>
yeah but it's keyboard-driven, so easier to navigate than e.g. firefox
<msk[m]>
might as well have a browser that sucks in terms of minimalism but good for usabilty
<GalaxyNova>
does netsurf support wayland?
<msk[m]>
s/usabilty/usability
<testuser[m]>
galaxynova if you want to browse sites that suck then you gotta get a browser that sucks too
<necromansy>
^
<testuser[m]>
:p
<necromansy>
the position im in
* GalaxyNova
cries
<msk[m]>
but even for sites that don't suck, are there any good terminal browsers?
<msk[m]>
most of them don't support https, do they?
<GalaxyNova>
links2
<GalaxyNova>
elynks is nice
<GalaxyNova>
elinks*
<msk[m]>
I remmeber trying links2 and something being off about it, I'll quickly compile it now
<msk[m]>
s/remmeber/remember
<testuser[m]>
its bland color wise but otherwise it works good
<msk[m]>
has anyone made an elinks package? for that one I thought there was a compiling problem
<testuser[m]>
i did and sent a package
<testuser[m]>
let me find it
<GalaxyNova>
palemoon seems like a nice compromise
<GalaxyNova>
but i don't know if it supports wayland
<testuser[m]>
midfavila has one for palememe but it uses gtk2 and similar ancient stuff
<GalaxyNova>
:(
<GalaxyNova>
I'm ok with gtk2 as long as it works on wayland
<msk[m]>
do I just `kiss i file.xz`? I can't seem to tar xf it
<GalaxyNova>
does it?
<testuser[m]>
no
<testuser[m]>
msk its supposed to be tar xf'd
<testuser[m]>
do xz -d
<testuser[m]>
and then tar xf
<msk[m]>
alright got it, thanks, never knew about the xz command
<msk[m]>
I see on the Arch Wiki elinks has a variable for setting the config location, do you know if links2 also has something like that?
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<testuser[m]>
export CONFIG_DIR=".config"
<msk[m]>
thanks, that works, how did you find that? I didn't see anything in the man page
<testuser[m]>
i dont remember
<testuser[m]>
Lol
<msk[m]>
lol I'll need to add an entry for that then
<riteo>
gtg, bye everyone!
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<msk[m]>
oh wait you have to use arch to contribute to the arch wiki, nvm
<testuser[m]>
wdym use arch
<testuser[m]>
dont you just need to make an acc
<msk[m]>
on their account page it asks for pacman output
<msk[m]>
maybe someone leaked it and I can use that, idk, or maybe the links2 website talks about CONFIG_DIR
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<claudia>
The surf-wayland repo on github needs gtk+3 compiled with X backend(gdkx.h). Apart from that surf uses xprop to open a dmenu in the same window which very prob does not work either.
<claudia>
I had tried with qtwebengine -> no sucess and even webkit. But for webkit I dont know if its even possible.
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<dante123>
has anyone else noticed a weird bug with qemu on sway
<dante123>
where the window changes size after it loses focus
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<alex_>
Dunno. I am planning on installing glibc kiss. Kek, joined the irc chat, doesn't use that distro.
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<micro_O>
o/
<testuser[m]>
hi
<micro_O>
seeing if the kiss-find db can be used to revive kiss on repology
<micro_O>
i guess i should add maintainers to the db
<micro_O>
wonder what else I should add
<msk[m]>
I would suggest some changes to the web client
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<msk[m]>
the search bar is at the very bottom which is less convenient than being at the top
<micro_O>
oh, thats a mistake
<micro_O>
should be up top thanks msk[m]
<msk[m]>
also this might be harder to implement but maybe have a instead of a search bar
<msk[m]>
so that javascript isn't required
<msk[m]>
s/have a /have a <form>/
<micro_O>
non-javascript search bar would just be ctrl+f
<micro_O>
like use browser built-in search
<msk[m]>
but then every entry has to be listed which makes the browser laggy
<micro_O>
this is just a static webserver, so you can save the page, use it locally, etc
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<micro_O>
msk[m] if its laggy on a particular browser, lmk. I'll make sure to test on a raspberry-pi-ish level hardware
<micro_O>
if a 3000 entry table lags a browser, that is worrisome
<micro_O>
I am also considering making a fully static version - i.e. with the csv backed in as plain html
<micro_O>
it becomes harder to hack on but would work without js
<msk[m]>
yeah, the results don't load without javascript
<msk[m]>
so I'd have to use javascript anyway
<micro_O>
search box is up top, autofocuses, and has a placeholder
<micro_O>
I'd be happy to review and maybe merge in a static generator for the site
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<alex_>
Is it possible to set a file in KISS like make.conf in Gentoo? Cuz, KISS is using cflags and makeopts too, right?
<msk[m]>
testuser: is it okay if I add your elinks package to my repo? I will credit you as the creator, I just want to make sure I don't lose the package
<msk[m]>
sorry alex I didn't mean to type right after you on purpose
<alex_>
msk[m]: Dw.
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<cot>
!cfg c sed on
<cotangent>
[config] no such setting 'sed'.
<cot>
!cfg c sed-patterns on
<cotangent>
[config] no such setting 'sed-patterns'.
<cot>
!cfg c sed-pattern on
<cotangent>
[config] set 'sed-pattern' for '#kisslinux' to 'on'
<cot>
!cfg c http-titles on
<cotangent>
[config] set 'http-titles' for '#kisslinux' to 'on'
<cot>
!cfg c gemini-titles on
<cotangent>
[config] set 'gemini-titles' for '#kisslinux' to 'on'
<cot>
The bot is back. Sorry for the delay.
<soliwilos>
alex_: The equivalent is you using your chosen method of setting those variables either on boot or login.
<alex_>
soliwilos: So, I can export them in .profile?
<soliwilos>
alex_: Yes.
<alex_>
Got it thanks.
<soliwilos>
As long as your shell uses that file.
<alex_>
Understand.
<alex_>
Tho, I'll have to use glibc kiss, cuz, nvidia. :))