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<testuser[m]>
Hi
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<msk[m]>
anarki: your client is connecting and disconnecting
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<Guest9>
Hello
<micro_O>
yo, is there a simple way to skip the Install prompt on build?
<micro_O>
i.e. i *dont* want to install, just build
<Guest9>
I wanted to ask, how do I add a group to a user in KISS? I don't have the `usermod` command :P
<micro_O>
Guest9 take a look at adduser
<micro_O>
> adduser username group
<cot>
Commands are a bit different with busybox
<testuser[m]>
micro_O: KISS_PROMPT=0 ?
<testuser[m]>
oh nvmm i guess it will just install without prompting
<Guest9>
micro_O Thanks \o
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<micro_O>
testuser[m] yeah I think my ideal behavoir would be: `kiss install` would do the equivalent of KISS_PROMPT=0 kiss build, `kiss build` would only build and never prompt. This I think would remove the need to have KISS_PROMPT in the first place
<micro_O>
and if you wanted to install a specific binary, just have `kiss install ~/.cache/kiss/bin/binary@ver.tar.xz`
<micro_O>
I'll up a discussion about it on github
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<testuser[m]>
/etc/shadow should be made when you add extra users / setup root
<testuser[m]>
idk why it doesnt exist
<testuser[m]>
did you do `chmod u+s /usr/bin/su` though?
<Guest9>
Ah, thanks.
<Guest9>
That fixed it.
<Guest9>
testuser[m] I don't know why it did not make a /etc/shadow. I only have a /etc/passwd and some other configuration files for other prorgams.
<Guest9>
programs*
<testuser[m]>
passwd contains users and their login shells, and shadow contains hashed passwords
<Guest9>
iirc passwd can also hold passwords, but if you specify "x" in the password field, it will use /etc/shadow.
<acheam>
Yeah thats what I thought
<testuser[m]>
oh
<Guest9>
So should I like just continue using passwd... or setup /etc/shadow
<testuser[m]>
it shouldnt matter
<Guest9>
Meh, if it works, don't fix it:tm:
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<acheam>
I'm confused why those didn't get installed suid though
<acheam>
Are you using any kiss components?
<testuser[m]>
busybox-suid bin is made suid manually in the kiss build script so i guess the build system doesnt do it
<Guest9>
acheam Nope, I'm not using any KISS stuff lol.
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<testuser[m]>
what are the goals of your distro ?
<Guest9>
testuser[m] I am looking into making an extremely minimal distro. like really, as minimal as you can get while not being completely nuts like having to compile your own kernel with only the drivers that you need.
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<micro_O>
Guest9 cool beans
<testuser[m]>
beans ?
<micro_O>
testuser[m] its like 'groovy'
<Guest9>
B E A N S
<micro_O>
i guess it can also mean cat toes now that i think of it
<Guest9>
Mhm.
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<acheam>
cot: can you kick anarki?
<acheam>
Also can I be op?
<acheam>
Guest9: compiling your own kernel isnt completely nuts lmao
<testuser[m]>
configuring it to be as small as possible can be considered nuts
<Guest9>
I mean, yeah. But it is a bit intended towards low powered machines, you wouldn't want to compile the kernel on an Atom processer would you?
<cot>
acheam: /msg ChanServ op #kisslinux
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<acheam>
Thanks
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<micro_O>
Guest9: qemu cross compiling kernels could be neat - i have used that in the past successfully but it ain't exactly what i'd call 'fun'
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<Guest75>
I just installed kiss. I'm trying to get sway working. When I run 'sway' from the tty1 I get the error "Unable to open wayland socket" My user is apart of the audio video and tty group. I have the seatd service running
<akira01>
anyway have you guys a solution to streaming music in kiss that is not a spotify client or mpv + youtubedl
<phoebos>
kyxor: lmaoo
<phoebos>
dOnT usE AayLnD bcs x!1 aPPs dOnt woRK
<acheam>
akira01: funkwhale or subsonic
<noocsharp>
guys, i downloaded steam.msi and it won't install
<noocsharp>
linux sucks
<acheam>
did you add nomodeset to the kernel parameters?
<ang>
that gist is pretty bad but:
<ang>
"Wayland solves no issues I have but breaks almost everything I need."
<ang>
is exactly my problem with wayland
<acheam>
wayland solves security
<acheam>
security no longer exists
<acheam>
wayland fixed it
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<ang>
lol, but I don't care about security
<acheam>
too bad
<ang>
thats not a problem I need solved
<acheam>
too bad
<noocsharp>
what problem do you need solved?
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<ang>
none, I want to keep my workflow
<acheam>
good news! There's this great new protocol that solves that problem!
<ang>
:D
<noocsharp>
x11?
<ang>
I mean I can still keep using x11 on kiss but it pretty much makes me a second class citizen
<ang>
and I will have to compile firefox myself again
<ang>
or does firefox-bin work with both, wayland and x11?
<noocsharp>
bruh, it's not hard to copy the xorg directory and keep it up to date
<noocsharp>
just requires a little work
<ang>
where did I say its hard?
<acheam>
ang is already a second class citizen though
<ang>
T_T
<noocsharp>
you're complaining about the fact that the kiss official repos moved to wayland, meaning you must think it's too much work to maintain the xorg repo yourself
<noocsharp>
tbh firefox doesn't take too long to compile in the scheme of things
<micro_O>
ang: might be less work to start some shared list of distros that have first-class xorg support
<micro_O>
one of the downsides of kiss is its not very popular, so you can't rely on any software you want being maintained by someone else in the community
<micro_O>
one of the upsides of kiss is that if you *want* to be a package maintainer, there is very little kiss-specific concepts getting in the way of becoming a maintainer
<micro_O>
but if you just want to keep using an up-to-date system, you basically have to fall in line with the software decisions of the core devs
<micro_O>
(this is generally true of most distributions, in my experience)
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<acheam>
Uhh cot what's litharge
<acheam>
Oh its part of libera
<ang>
micro_O: all good, I have something to fall back on
<ang>
noocsharp: cool
<acheam>
phoebos_: thanks for the -ms rec
<acheam>
Ive migrated my mandoc documents to -ms now
<acheam>
And all my markdown and restructured text as well
<phoebos>
niiice
<phoebos>
can i see?
<acheam>
Uhh idk what to show you
<acheam>
Its mostly my common app essays
<phoebos>
fair enough
<phoebos>
when i go back to uni next week im gonna try to write notes in ms+eqn again