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<noocsharp> micro_0 i meant generate the html every so often
<noocsharp> oops, micro_O
<micro_O> noocsharp i want the html to at least be reasonably browsable / viewable in all editors
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<kyxor> Hi, where can I find documentation of linux kernel ACPI named objects? In particular I am interested in what functions "[\_SB.PCI0.GPP6._PRW]" named object provides. Any pointers?
<kyxor> I assume this object is related to C states, power management or something like that
<kyxor> probably wrong channel to ask, just trying to figure out some kernel crashes, oh well
<acheam_> idk man
<kyxor> and what hurts is that this is impossible to debug, cause I run on real hardware and if there is fault in something like power management, you don't even get kernel panic, or anything. it's also random
<kyxor> the only thing I know is I get this error message at boot BIOS Error (bug): Failure creating named object [\_SB.PCI0.GPP6._PRW], AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20210604/dswload2-326)
<kyxor> so bios is bugged somehow, I already tried many things to fix it, some chinese bioses don't get this error message, but stuff still powers off randomly
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<noocsharp> i get like 20 off those on bootup and my system works fine
<noocsharp> that's not the error you're looking for
<noocsharp> also my understanding is that a lot of uefi implementations are horrible and buggy, and the kernel has to compensate
<kyxor> the only reliable way I found to fix this problem is to set a specific cpu voltage, like 1.1V but that makes it imposible to overclock
<noocsharp> then it's probably not a software issue
<kyxor> agreed
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<testuser[m]> Anonymous: so everything rebuilds fine, but everything breaks when glibc is built ? Seems weird cuz new glibc isn't even installed yet
<testuser[m]> Or glibc is the first thing rebuilt
<noocsharp> testuser[m], sorry for asking again, but you had something for building webkit for wayland, right?
<noocsharp> i think i'm finally ready to make the jump
<testuser[m]> Everything is in community noocsharp
<testuser[m]> now
<noocsharp> oh, awesome
<testuser[m]> You just don't have hw acceleration cuz WPE (whats used for hw accel) doesn't work without libglvnd
<noocsharp> an acceptable tradeoff
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<testuser[m]> Ok Anonymous i have a repro
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<testuser[m]> wtf touches libdl though, before glibc is even installed
<testuser[m]> it just goes empty :/
<testuser[m]> In the meantime you could just trust me and avoid rebuilding everything, while i look into it :p
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<testuser[m]> hmm kiss just destroys the file on "generating manifest" and "stripping bins and libs"
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<testuser[m]> If i make libdl readonly then it purges libc.so instead!
<testuser[m]> Anonymous: as a workaround, rebuild glibc as a non-root user
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<Anonymous> testuser[m]: Ok, thank you
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<GalaxyNova> Hello
<GalaxyNova> does anyone know what this commit will mean https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/commit/d0228beccf4b5e1b45754151091968bd002c04d7
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<GalaxyNova> does it mean we can cleanly switch from gcc to clang without rebuilding the system?
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<testuser[m]> no
<testuser[m]> Abi of clang stdc++ and gcc stdc++ is different
<testuser[m]> This is just a change to the dep fixer
<konimex> the change prevents circular dependency
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<zola> I am having a bit of problem with wayland
<testuser[m]> what is it
<zola> I can't get any windows to show in the compositor
<zola> just blank background with moving cursor
<zola> I tried sway and dwl
<testuser[m]> sway --debug > log 2>&1
<zola> Weston locks up when i try starting it, so i can't try that
<zola> Well sway does not appear to have any errors, but foot, when started can't find any fonts
<zola> Would you happen to know of any basic fonts packages already available
<testuser[m]> liberation-fonts
<testuser[m]> nvm it was changed
<testuser[m]> ttf-croscore
<zola> Thanks a lot, it looks like the lack of fonts stoped both terminal from starting and sway from showing the bar, everything is working now.
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<testuser[m]> Anonymous: issue is fixed in the latest kiss (the package manager) release
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<Anonymous> testuser[m]: Thanks a lot!
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<Anonymous> Will there be a new rootfs with the fix, or will it be enough to update kiss and then start installing kisslinux?
<Anonymous> gkisslinux*
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<testuser[m]> just update kiss
<Anonymous> Ok
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<kyxor> Hello everyone, what's a good alt for busybox unzip? I've got a 10GB zipped file and busybox unzip fails with "unzip: short read"
<kyxor> I am pretty sure this is a busybox bug because this achieve I have unziped before, using gnu utils so it can't be corrupted
<testuser[m]> p7zip ? It's got tons of CVEs though
<testuser[m]> Check this http://www.info-zip.org/Zip.html
<kyxor> Thanks testuser, that's the link to p7zip?
<testuser[m]> No that at another zip
<testuser[m]> That's*
<testuser[m]> I'd say you use it over p7zip
<kyxor> Thanks, I'll try that one
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<acheam_> thats a pretty good website
<acheam_> the word art realy ties it togethor
<kyxor> errr testuser, it's an emberassing question but how do I get the source code?
<kyxor> wget: bad response to RETR: 550 tex-archive/tools/zip/info-zip/: No such file or directory.
<kyxor> thanks, as for kiss linux nobody seems to have made package for it
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<kyxor> ehh, how to build it? the most obvious way fails: https://0x0.st/-Wpk.png
<claudia> What is the states of our qt5 stack in comminity? Its at version 5.15.3 but 5.15.5 is out. Are there problems in updating, or do we use an lts branch? I have not found reliable information on the version, also different projects use different 5.15 versions. (arch, void, alpine)
<kyxor> oh ok, I am dumb dumb, I can just look into that archlinux PKGBUILD to see how to build it
<kyxor> it does not build from unix directory, thats why it failed
<kyxor> testuser[m]: thanks so much for help, it worked and I got my precious zip unzipped XD
<kyxor> Yo it be probably nice to add it to community repo, I might do it later
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<acheam_> just out of curiousity, could do me a favor, and measure the page load time on https://armaanb.net, and your report your general location as well?
<acheam_> s/could/could some of yall please/g
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<rio6> canada west: 3.1s first time, around 1~2s afterwards
<acheam_> rio6: thank you!
<ang> how's obsd things, acheam_?
<acheam_> this is the best website i've seen in my life: https://madsenworld.dk/index-uk.htm
<acheam_> ang: they're great!
<acheam_> been migrating my server
<acheam_> lots of things go much quicker
<acheam_> lots of things go much slower to set up
<ang> how comes? Just more new things to learn or generally more involved?
<ang> it's pretty cool to be able to entirely rely on man-pages, though
<ang> and man -k (apropos)
<acheam_> ang: things like a simple http website, ftp, finger, etc are all super quick
<acheam_> because its all built into the OS, and is very simple to setup
<acheam_> in the case of ftp and finger, I literally just needed to uncomment a line each in /etc/inetd.conf
<ang> yep
<ang> sane defaults ftw
<acheam_> but for more complex things, like SSL and CGI, obsd httpd is a bit more complex than caddy
<ang> sane and secure that is
<acheam_> indeed
<acheam_> complex to configure that is
<acheam_> not complex in implementation
<acheam_> the learning curve is like 1 day
<ang> yeah, not too bad really
<acheam_> just read hier(7), and afterboot(8)
<ang> I haven't really messed around with server stuff
<acheam_> you should, its fun
<ang> my needs are simple
<acheam_> my biggest complaint is that the packages aren't patched to remove dependencies
<acheam_> so you have to live with gettext, dbus, etc
<ang> we've been a bit spoiled
<acheam_> indeed
<ang> kinda anooyed me too
<ang> annoyed*
<ang> I like the whole *.local concept
<ang> totally half-assed on linux
<acheam_> oh the other annoying thing is the lack of XDG base dir support
<ang> what do you use that for? I'm not really familiar with XDG stuff
<acheam_> moves things out of ~ into .config, .local, etc
<acheam_> I had 3 dotfiles in ~ on kiss, .config, .local, and .cache
<acheam_> on obsd I have 32
<ang> oh like core open bsd things don't honor it
<acheam_> yeah
<ang> for quite a few utilities you can usually change config dir manually
<ang> with an env var or by defining an alias with something like --config ~/.config/....
<acheam_> ik
<acheam_> but its not by default
<ang> aye
<ang> how bad is it after claening up? I just remember having ksh and csh files
<acheam_> haven't tried...
<acheam_> there are a lot of Xorg ones that i'm not sure can be moved
<micro_O> acheam i love the awards section of that site https://madsenworld.dk/awards/index-uk.htm
<micro_O> maybe i update kiss-find to that kinda styling
<acheam_> wow very jelous of his rewards
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<kyxor> that's a cool website
<kyxor> man I gotta work on my website, I've been too lazy to update it move all the things, and self host everything
<noocsharp> openbsd on servers is the way
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<acheam_> kyxor: your website is really something
<kyxor> I am very creative I know
<acheam_> i'm trying to go for a non-tacky early 2000s feel for mine
<acheam_> tried out like 50 under construction gifs so far, still haven't found one that I like
<acheam_> but i finally caved, and added CSS and images
<acheam_> but only 1 rule, and images only on the homepage!
<acheam_> s/rule/css rule/g
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<Anonymous> Hi. Can you recommend a minimalistic Linux web server with CGI support?
<Anonymous> like OpenBSD's httpd
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<msk[m]> Anonymous is nginx minimalistic?
<acheam_> msk[m]: no
<acheam_> Anonymous: thttpd, merecat
<acheam_> merecat is forked from thttpd
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<Anonymous> Thanks, I'll take a look
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<rio6> while true; do cat header index.html | ncat -l 80; done
<acheam_> cgi tho
<acheam_> noocsharp: how do you get your files onto your web server?
<acheam_> i used to use rsync to a "web" user, but because obsd httpd files are root owned, not sure what to do
<kyxor> ftp?
<acheam_> still root owned
<acheam_> i just chowned it for now, but it doesn't *feel* right
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<noocsharp> wdym they're root owned? like the files you're serving?
<noocsharp> i serve files owned by a non-root user
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