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Guest98 >
msk[m] Wait are u on wayland? Thought you couldn't use suckless software on wayland
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msk[m] >
no, I'm on xorg
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msk[m] >
suckless devs make some terminal-based software, too, so it's not all lost on wayland
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Guest98 >
ill switch to wayland in 10 years :)
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noocsharp >
the mid, the myth
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midfavila-laptop >
yes, hello
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midfavila-laptop >
sorry i haven't been on lately
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midfavila-laptop >
a lot's happened
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acheam >
hi midfavila-laptop
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midfavila-laptop >
hello acheam
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nerditup >
What's been going on mid?
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midfavila-laptop >
well, i had a nasty knife accident this weekend, which sucked
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midfavila-laptop >
so I've only got one usable paw rn
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<
nerditup >
Cooking? Oh boy
02:05
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midfavila-laptop >
no, being a dumbass
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<
midfavila-laptop >
with acheam's fave thing
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<
nerditup >
I'm intrigued
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<
midfavila-laptop >
my BAYONET
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acheam >
wow who could have predicted that surprise?
02:06
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midfavila-laptop >
have i mentioned my bayonet recently, acheam?
02:07
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midfavila-laptop >
but yeah tl;dr don't play with knives kids
02:07
<
midfavila-laptop >
they might go through your fingers
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acheam >
about as frequently as you have mentioned your swivelly laptop
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midfavila-laptop >
i'm lucky in that i only drove the blade through fatty tissues
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acheam >
so... all of it?
02:08
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midfavila-laptop >
but my left hand is still out of commission for about a week
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midfavila-laptop >
also idk
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midfavila-laptop >
it was kind of a "I just fucking cut myself. well shit," moment
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<
midfavila-laptop >
didn't have any instant replays
02:09
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midfavila-laptop >
but yeah, i've just been taking it kind of easy for a few days. ngl kind of glad i fucked my hand
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acheam >
well know youve learned an important lesson
02:09
<
acheam >
to hire a camera crew to film you 24/7
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midfavila-laptop >
you think i'm made of money acheam?
02:10
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midfavila-laptop >
neetbux only go so far
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acheam >
offer them the most priceless thing there is
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acheam >
sorry, gnu+hurd
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midfavila-laptop >
s/u/9base+hbsd*
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midfavila-laptop >
i swear on me mum that i'll make that happen
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midfavila-laptop >
hmm
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midfavila-laptop >
i'm tempted to start deviating from upstream with my packages...
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GalaxyNova >
acheam: You don't need to hire a camera crew just install windows 10
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acheam >
midfavila-laptop: don't you already have lots of -mod packages?
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GalaxyNova >
they're gone
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GalaxyNova >
it's probablty difficult to type with only one hand
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acheam >
weird I didn't get a leave message
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GalaxyNova >
acheam: Is your website hosted on OpenBSD too?
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acheam >
fun fact: you can just look at the response headers of a website to see what server its running on
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acheam >
another good way is to put in a random 404 url and see if it says the server
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acheam >
both methods work in my case
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testuser[m] >
claudia: I'll take a look, haven't tested it much beyond making sure it builds
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testuser[m] >
cuz i can't really run wayland stuff from chroots
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testuser[m] >
nvidia
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testuser[m] >
it doesn't work like x where you can have drivers only on host and no drivers in chrot
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testuser[m] >
And i didn't find something like Xvfb so i could run headless and see if it even launches properly
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riteo_ >
I fell asleep right when mid came
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riteo >
mid is the new santa claus
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riteo >
well, I'll go for now, bye!
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dilyn >
testuser: binutils being our chromium problem makes sense; ran into the same problem as you using a chroot
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dilyn >
llvm is yet again proven to be the superior option
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testuser[m] >
So bisect binutils / ask dylan to revert binutils / force chromium to use lld/clang ? :p
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dilyn >
in that order :V
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msk[m] >
why not? I thought runit worked with any normal daemon?
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testuser[m] >
Ofcourse, just "exec scron" or whatever in the run file
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testuser[m] >
Guest76
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Guest76 >
git clone git@git.2f30.org/scron.git <
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Guest76 >
fatal: repository 'git@git.2f30.org/scron.git' does not
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<
Guest76 >
great going guys
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Guest76 >
It doesn't look like the repo is gonna be updated so ill just download the files manually
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acheam >
send em an email
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Guest76 >
Arghhhhhhhhhhhh I can't just copy and paste the code because the static git site used copies the line numbers too
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testuser[m] >
Try git://
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acheam >
i tried it
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<
acheam >
didnt work
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acheam >
also tried http
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Guest76 >
Okay i will just copy and paste the code into new files and use vim to remove the line numbers
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<
Guest76 >
And send an email
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<
acheam >
or you could just download a release tarball from here
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acheam >
also let them know that the ssl cert is expired on dl.2f30.ogr
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Guest76 >
oh thanks
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acheam >
you are welcome
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covidtested >
hello there! is there a matrix channel of kiss linux? and if there is then what's its channel id/name?
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testuser[m] >
It's bridged
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covidtested >
then how to set it up?
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covidtested >
im a noob at this so i hope not to get bullied.
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GalaxyNova >
> Deploys self hosted sourcehut
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GalaxyNova >
> CPU jumps to 100%
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acheam >
GalaxyNova: sourcehut is pretty lightweight
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acheam >
might be some other issue if its causing that
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venerabzr[m] >
seems like I got it working!
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testuser[m] >
covidtested: pm @appservice-irc:libera.chat, register then message "!join #kisslinux"
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GalaxyNova >
acheam: Apparently not lightweight enough for my singple core VPS
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slayr[m] >
I wanted his helm, got his legs
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slayr[m] >
I just want to know whether or not Matrix is compatible with kirc (irc client) or not
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<
slayr[m] >
And if then which command would I have to use for connecting?
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<
GalaxyNova >
also btw the kirc package in community is outdated
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<
GalaxyNova >
for more than 30 days
17:47
<
GalaxyNova >
so i think it's up for adoption
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slayr[m] >
Github is down so I can't tell you about the github one
17:48
<
slayr[m] >
But I did this from github
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<
slayr[m] >
Hmm, git seems to be responding but not Github on my browser.
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<
slayr[m] >
Anyways, what about matrix-cli?
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omanom >
matrix-cli looks interesting
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omanom >
i'm not aware of a way for kirc to be used... it's purely an irc client so it has zero knowledge of the Matrix protocol
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slayr[m] >
I hope its not dependency bloat
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omanom >
i can't find a definitive list anywhere. there's mention of systemd... if any systemd "component" is required then that's bloat
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slayr[m] >
nodejs for soydevs
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omanom >
looks like the mention was just if you wanted to set up a systemd service to run it
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slayr[m] >
I don't think I would like to have a service running at boot or something because I definitely not like that
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acheam >
GalaxyNova: it really doesn't rone that many backup taskss or anything
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slayr[m] >
How can I avoid this curl error: curl: (18) transfer closed with 1229272 bytes remaining to read
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<
slayr[m] >
It fails my build when the byte transfer hits 0 for ~15s
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omanom >
looks like a networking issue, is there another source you can try?
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testuser[m] >
slayr use gomuks
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<
slayr[m] >
Hold on a min', trying a Japanese mirror
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<
slayr[m] >
Since I'm on Wyverkiss, I don't have gomuks in my rep
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slayr[m] >
seems noice, will give a try after testing matrix-cli first
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slayr[m] >
Hold on, lemme check
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slayr[m] >
Can you share to github link for the kiss-repo, because github doesn't seem to be working on my side.
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testuser[m] >
github link since github is not working ?
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acheam >
git://git.git-bruh.duckdns.org/kiss-repo.git works fine for me
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slayr[m] >
no not for visiting
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<
slayr[m] >
for cloning the repo
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slayr[m] >
since i don't have it
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acheam >
yeah i can clone it fine
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testuser[m] >
The clone command is at the top of the page
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slayr[m] >
OK, I'll check it in a min
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slayr[m] >
Is the build compatible with LLVM/Cmake?
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testuser[m] >
Perhaps
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slayr[m] >
Oh seems to be compatible, nvm
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testuser[m] >
Most packages are reusable across gcc and clung/llvm
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testuser[m] >
Btw it's clang not cmake lol
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slayr[m] >
cmake is the make in llvm
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slayr[m] >
so because gomuks was depending on make, was asking that instead
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slayr[m] >
seems like matrix-cli is dependent on some deprecated packages 😐️
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slayr[m] >
And the makefile refers to gmake nice
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slayr[m] >
gomuks seems to be working perfectly fine 😀
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acheam >
> cmake is the make in llvm
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slayr[m] >
alright, here's me in gomuks
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slayr[m] >
The logic of that message was like
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slayr[m] >
Cmake is make in llvm, just like Gmake is make in GCC
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slayr[m] >
i hope that clarifies it.
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slayr[m] >
Wow! gomuks has mouse support. noice
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slayr[m] >
I have a problem with removable devices
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slayr[m] >
When the HID devices (keyboard, mice, etc) are plugged in when booting in the system, the devices are recognized and configured perfectly.
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slayr[m] >
But when removing them and re-attaching them, they no longer function despite the identification of the HID devices in dmesg.
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slayr[m] >
I hope this is not called spamming but the output command in the sway's config seems to be also not working
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acheam >
slayr[m]: it doesn't clarify is
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acheam >
gmake is a make implementation
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acheam >
cmake is a totally different build system
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acheam >
see make(1p), make(1), cmake(1)
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slayr[m] >
But when I do make, it shows cmake output
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slayr[m] >
and when I do gmake, it shows gmake output
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slayr[m] >
what about this?
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acheam >
because cmake generates makefiles
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slayr[m] >
and what about gmake?
18:30
<
acheam >
cmake generated makefiles which can be run by make or gmake
18:30
<
acheam >
gmake is just make
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acheam >
its the GNU version of make, and is the default almost everywhere
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slayr[m] >
Make implementation* since doing make install on clang-based kiss linux distros fails
18:30
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slayr[m] >
oh I see
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slayr[m] >
alright, i get this topic is settled down, took too long for me to understand X|
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slayr[m] >
May you help with the HID devices problem?
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acheam >
uhh do you have a running device manager?
18:32
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acheam >
can you verify its running?
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slayr[m] >
oh, its not running
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acheam >
well there ya go
18:33
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slayr[m] >
hold on, let me just link the service
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slayr[m] >
they have removed the replacing-udev guide
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acheam >
because mdev is the default now
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slayr[m] >
so i guess i should do ln -s /etc/sv/mdev /etc/service?
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slayr[m] >
i have the mdev service as 'mdev -df' in the top stat but the devices are still not working when plugged
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acheam >
what do you mean not working?
18:37
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acheam >
also I think you need to reboot, or at least restart xorg
18:37
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acheam >
or wayland or whatever
18:37
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slayr[m] >
alright, am rebooting
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GalaxyNova >
so is the keyboard not working?
18:39
<
slayr[m] >
Alright, the keyboard kicked in
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slayr[m] >
now how do I scroll up in gomuks?
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acheam >
man gomuks?
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slayr[m] >
man: No entry for gomuks in the manual.
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acheam >
use better software?
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GalaxyNova >
try bage up
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GalaxyNova >
page up*
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GalaxyNova >
the page up key
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slayr[m] >
oh page up seems to be working
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slayr[m] >
irc -> matrix -> element -> gomuks progression
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slayr[m] >
how do I make the settings in alsamixer permanent?
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GalaxyNova >
modify the ~/.asoundrc
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slayr[m] >
nvm alsactl store seems to get it permanent, thanks for the help bwtq
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slayr[m] >
The HID device problem still exists
18:51
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slayr[m] >
I have the mdev -df service
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slayr[m] >
and have rebooted but the devices seems not to respond even tho they appear in the dmesg log
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GalaxyNova >
did you install linux-firmware?
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GalaxyNova >
if you're using a weird keyboard you might have to install the firmware to get it to work
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slayr[m] >
it doesn't require any firmware to load
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slayr[m] >
Its a CASUE USB keyboard
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slayr[m] >
and the mouse is a Dell Optical Mouse
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slayr[m] >
both get recognized with their names and ports
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slayr[m] >
The problem is it works but only if you keep it plugged, if you remove it and re-attach it, it gets recognized but doesn't function
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slayr[m] >
USB mass storage devices are recognized tho
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slayr[m] >
but for some reason hid devices seem not to work when un-plugged and re-attached
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dilyn >
you don't have hotplugging support
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acheam >
in console or in graphical environment?
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slayr[m] >
/bin/sh: can't create /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug: nonexistent directory
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dilyn >
i don't actually make use of hotplugging so i'm no real help here if run into trouble but that should get it working
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slayr[m] >
So how to get hotpluggin' support?
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slayr[m] >
I have libudev-zero installed
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slayr[m] >
was that what you were referring to?
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acheam >
read the hotplugging section
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slayr[m] >
where I put the mdev.conf, helper.c, helper.sh?
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slayr[m] >
I have a mdev.conf
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slayr[m] >
having all the necessary contents
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slayr[m] >
how do I close gomuks without killing the whole terminal?
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slayr[m] >
nvm found it
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Guest76 >
testuser[m] When making custom run file for runit service, is supervise dir also needed?
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Guest76 >
All my other services in /etc/runit/sv/ have a supervise/ folder that contains files "control lock ok pid stat status"
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Guest76 >
Don't know what to do about it
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Guest76 >
Ok never mind according to Void linux wiki its optional
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Guest76 >
When I type the command "sv start scron" I get the error "down: scron: 1s, normally up, want up"
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omanom >
does it start when you run it manually?
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Guest76 >
omanom Yes I ran it from the command line like "/usr/local/bin/scron -f /var/spool/cron/mc -n" and it worked. My run file has the same thing except with exec at the start
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Guest76 >
and the #!/bin/sh at the top
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acheam >
chmod +x ?
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which scron is it?
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Guest76 >
alright never mind i forgot cronie was running and i guess they were conflicting somehow
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Guest76 >
it is working now
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why doesn't eiwd support iwctl command? something to do with dbus?
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I think it communicates with iwd using dbus, but eiwd has dbus removed.
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wow dbus has existed for 19 years
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I renamed my interface using udev now iwd says No devices in station mode available :sademoji:
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