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<Guest98> msk[m] Wait are u on wayland? Thought you couldn't use suckless software on wayland
<msk[m]> no, I'm on xorg
<msk[m]> suckless devs make some terminal-based software, too, so it's not all lost on wayland
<Guest98> ill switch to wayland in 10 years :)
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<noocsharp> the mid, the myth
<midfavila-laptop> yes, hello
<midfavila-laptop> sorry i haven't been on lately
<midfavila-laptop> a lot's happened
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<acheam> hi midfavila-laptop
<midfavila-laptop> hello acheam
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<nerditup> What's been going on mid?
<midfavila-laptop> well, i had a nasty knife accident this weekend, which sucked
<midfavila-laptop> so I've only got one usable paw rn
<nerditup> Cooking? Oh boy
<midfavila-laptop> no, being a dumbass
<nerditup> Lol
<midfavila-laptop> with acheam's fave thing
<nerditup> I'm intrigued
<midfavila-laptop> my BAYONET
<acheam> wow who could have predicted that surprise?
<midfavila-laptop> have i mentioned my bayonet recently, acheam?
<midfavila-laptop> but yeah tl;dr don't play with knives kids
<midfavila-laptop> they might go through your fingers
<acheam> about as frequently as you have mentioned your swivelly laptop
<acheam> ouch
<midfavila-laptop> i'm lucky in that i only drove the blade through fatty tissues
<acheam> so... all of it?
<midfavila-laptop> but my left hand is still out of commission for about a week
<midfavila-laptop> also idk
<midfavila-laptop> it was kind of a "I just fucking cut myself. well shit," moment
<midfavila-laptop> didn't have any instant replays
<midfavila-laptop> but yeah, i've just been taking it kind of easy for a few days. ngl kind of glad i fucked my hand
<acheam> well know youve learned an important lesson
<acheam> to hire a camera crew to film you 24/7
<midfavila-laptop> you think i'm made of money acheam?
<midfavila-laptop> neetbux only go so far
<acheam> offer them the most priceless thing there is
<acheam> salvation
<acheam> gnu+linux
<acheam> sorry, gnu+hurd
<midfavila-laptop> s/u/9base+hbsd*
<midfavila-laptop> i swear on me mum that i'll make that happen
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<midfavila-laptop> hmm
<midfavila-laptop> i'm tempted to start deviating from upstream with my packages...
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<GalaxyNova> acheam: You don't need to hire a camera crew just install windows 10
<GalaxyNova> kek
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<acheam> midfavila-laptop: don't you already have lots of -mod packages?
<GalaxyNova> they're gone
<GalaxyNova> it's probablty difficult to type with only one hand
<acheam> weird I didn't get a leave message
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<GalaxyNova> acheam: Is your website hosted on OpenBSD too?
<acheam> yes
<GalaxyNova> wow
<acheam> wow?
<acheam> fun fact: you can just look at the response headers of a website to see what server its running on
<acheam> another good way is to put in a random 404 url and see if it says the server
<acheam> both methods work in my case
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<acheam> ho
<testuser[m]> claudia: I'll take a look, haven't tested it much beyond making sure it builds
<testuser[m]> cuz i can't really run wayland stuff from chroots
<acheam> why not?
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<testuser[m]> nvidia
<testuser[m]> it doesn't work like x where you can have drivers only on host and no drivers in chrot
<testuser[m]> And i didn't find something like Xvfb so i could run headless and see if it even launches properly
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<acheam> :(
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<riteo_> I fell asleep right when mid came
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<riteo> mid is the new santa claus
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<riteo> well, I'll go for now, bye!
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<omanom> Sweets has been busy: https://github.com/Sweets/sodium
<testuser[m]> nice
<dilyn> testuser: binutils being our chromium problem makes sense; ran into the same problem as you using a chroot
<dilyn> llvm is yet again proven to be the superior option
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<testuser[m]> So bisect binutils / ask dylan to revert binutils / force chromium to use lld/clang ? :p
<dilyn> in that order :V
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<Guest76> Anybody know if https://git.2f30.org/scron/ Suckless Scron would work on runit?
<msk[m]> why not? I thought runit worked with any normal daemon?
<testuser[m]> Ofcourse, just "exec scron" or whatever in the run file
<testuser[m]> Guest76
<Guest76> Ok
<Guest76> git clone git@git.2f30.org/scron.git <
<Guest76> fatal: repository 'git@git.2f30.org/scron.git' does not
<Guest76> ...exist
<Guest76> great going guys
<Guest76> It doesn't look like the repo is gonna be updated so ill just download the files manually
<acheam> send em an email
<Guest76> Arghhhhhhhhhhhh I can't just copy and paste the code because the static git site used copies the line numbers too
<testuser[m]> Try git://
<acheam> i tried it
<acheam> didnt work
<acheam> also tried http
<Guest76> Okay i will just copy and paste the code into new files and use vim to remove the line numbers
<Guest76> And send an email
<acheam> or you could just download a release tarball from here
<acheam> also let them know that the ssl cert is expired on dl.2f30.ogr
<Guest76> oh thanks
<acheam> you are welcome
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<covidtested> hello there! is there a matrix channel of kiss linux? and if there is then what's its channel id/name?
<testuser[m]> It's bridged
<covidtested> then how to set it up?
<covidtested> im a noob at this so i hope not to get bullied.
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<GalaxyNova> > Deploys self hosted sourcehut
<GalaxyNova> > CPU jumps to 100%
* GalaxyNova cries
<covidtested> *
<acheam> GalaxyNova: sourcehut is pretty lightweight
<acheam> might be some other issue if its causing that
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<venerabzr[m]> seems like I got it working!
<testuser[m]> covidtested: pm @appservice-irc:libera.chat, register then message "!join #kisslinux"
<testuser[m]> Oh
<testuser[m]> Nice
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<GalaxyNova> acheam: Apparently not lightweight enough for my singple core VPS
<slayr[m]> I wanted his helm, got his legs
<slayr[m]> I just want to know whether or not Matrix is compatible with kirc (irc client) or not
<slayr[m]> And if then which command would I have to use for connecting?
<GalaxyNova> also btw the kirc package in community is outdated
<GalaxyNova> for more than 30 days
<GalaxyNova> so i think it's up for adoption
<slayr[m]> Github is down so I can't tell you about the github one
<slayr[m]> But I did this from github
<slayr[m]> Hmm, git seems to be responding but not Github on my browser.
<slayr[m]> Anyways, what about matrix-cli?
<omanom> matrix-cli looks interesting
<omanom> i'm not aware of a way for kirc to be used... it's purely an irc client so it has zero knowledge of the Matrix protocol
<slayr[m]> I hope its not dependency bloat
<omanom> i can't find a definitive list anywhere. there's mention of systemd... if any systemd "component" is required then that's bloat
<slayr[m]> nodejs for soydevs
<omanom> looks like the mention was just if you wanted to set up a systemd service to run it
<slayr[m]> I don't think I would like to have a service running at boot or something because I definitely not like that
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<acheam> GalaxyNova: it really doesn't rone that many backup taskss or anything
<slayr[m]> How can I avoid this curl error: curl: (18) transfer closed with 1229272 bytes remaining to read
<slayr[m]> It fails my build when the byte transfer hits 0 for ~15s
<omanom> looks like a networking issue, is there another source you can try?
<testuser[m]> slayr use gomuks
<slayr[m]> Hold on a min', trying a Japanese mirror
<slayr[m]> Since I'm on Wyverkiss, I don't have gomuks in my rep
<slayr[m]> seems noice, will give a try after testing matrix-cli first
<slayr[m]> Hold on, lemme check
<slayr[m]> Can you share to github link for the kiss-repo, because github doesn't seem to be working on my side.
<testuser[m]> Wat
<testuser[m]> github link since github is not working ?
<acheam> lol
<acheam> git://git.git-bruh.duckdns.org/kiss-repo.git works fine for me
<slayr[m]> no not for visiting
<slayr[m]> for cloning the repo
<slayr[m]> since i don't have it
<acheam> yeah i can clone it fine
<testuser[m]> The clone command is at the top of the page
<slayr[m]> OK, I'll check it in a min
<slayr[m]> Is the build compatible with LLVM/Cmake?
<testuser[m]> Perhaps
<slayr[m]> Oh seems to be compatible, nvm
<testuser[m]> Most packages are reusable across gcc and clung/llvm
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<testuser[m]> Btw it's clang not cmake lol
<slayr[m]> cmake is the make in llvm
<slayr[m]> so because gomuks was depending on make, was asking that instead
<slayr[m]> seems like matrix-cli is dependent on some deprecated packages 😐️
<slayr[m]> And the makefile refers to gmake nice
<slayr[m]> gomuks seems to be working perfectly fine 😀
<acheam> > cmake is the make in llvm
<acheam> ?
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<slayr[m]> alright, here's me in gomuks
<slayr[m]> The logic of that message was like
<slayr[m]> Cmake is make in llvm, just like Gmake is make in GCC
<slayr[m]> i hope that clarifies it.
<slayr[m]> Wow! gomuks has mouse support. noice
<slayr[m]> I have a problem with removable devices
<slayr[m]> When the HID devices (keyboard, mice, etc) are plugged in when booting in the system, the devices are recognized and configured perfectly.
<slayr[m]> But when removing them and re-attaching them, they no longer function despite the identification of the HID devices in dmesg.
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<slayr[m]> I hope this is not called spamming but the output command in the sway's config seems to be also not working
<acheam> slayr[m]: it doesn't clarify is
<acheam> it
<acheam> gmake is a make implementation
<acheam> cmake is a totally different build system
<slayr[m]> ..
<acheam> see make(1p), make(1), cmake(1)
<slayr[m]> But when I do make, it shows cmake output
<slayr[m]> and when I do gmake, it shows gmake output
<slayr[m]> what about this?
<acheam> because cmake generates makefiles
<slayr[m]> and what about gmake?
<acheam> cmake generated makefiles which can be run by make or gmake
<acheam> gmake is just make
<acheam> its the GNU version of make, and is the default almost everywhere
<slayr[m]> Make implementation* since doing make install on clang-based kiss linux distros fails
<slayr[m]> oh I see
<slayr[m]> alright, i get this topic is settled down, took too long for me to understand X|
<slayr[m]> May you help with the HID devices problem?
<acheam> uhh do you have a running device manager?
<slayr[m]> mdev
<acheam> can you verify its running?
<slayr[m]> oh, its not running
<acheam> well there ya go
<slayr[m]> hold on, let me just link the service
<slayr[m]> they have removed the replacing-udev guide
<slayr[m]> :|
<acheam> because mdev is the default now
<slayr[m]> so i guess i should do ln -s /etc/sv/mdev /etc/service?
<slayr[m]> i have the mdev service as 'mdev -df' in the top stat but the devices are still not working when plugged
<acheam> what do you mean not working?
<acheam> also I think you need to reboot, or at least restart xorg
<acheam> or wayland or whatever
<slayr[m]> alright, am rebooting
<GalaxyNova> so is the keyboard not working?
<slayr[m]> Alright, the keyboard kicked in
<slayr[m]> now how do I scroll up in gomuks?
<acheam> man gomuks?
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<slayr[m]> man: No entry for gomuks in the manual.
<acheam> use better software?
<GalaxyNova> try bage up
<GalaxyNova> page up*
<slayr[m]> huh?
<GalaxyNova> the page up key
<slayr[m]> oh page up seems to be working
<slayr[m]> thanks
<slayr[m]> irc -> matrix -> element -> gomuks progression
<slayr[m]> how do I make the settings in alsamixer permanent?
<GalaxyNova> modify the ~/.asoundrc
<slayr[m]> nvm alsactl store seems to get it permanent, thanks for the help bwtq
<slayr[m]> btw*
<slayr[m]> The HID device problem still exists
<slayr[m]> I have the mdev -df service
<slayr[m]> and have rebooted but the devices seems not to respond even tho they appear in the dmesg log
<GalaxyNova> weird
<GalaxyNova> did you install linux-firmware?
<GalaxyNova> if you're using a weird keyboard you might have to install the firmware to get it to work
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<slayr[m]> it doesn't require any firmware to load
<slayr[m]> Its a CASUE USB keyboard
<slayr[m]> and the mouse is a Dell Optical Mouse
<slayr[m]> both get recognized with their names and ports
<slayr[m]> https://termbin.com/wwee < Here's the dmesg log where it shows the HID devices being recognized
<slayr[m]> The problem is it works but only if you keep it plugged, if you remove it and re-attach it, it gets recognized but doesn't function
<slayr[m]> USB mass storage devices are recognized tho
<slayr[m]> but for some reason hid devices seem not to work when un-plugged and re-attached
<dilyn> you don't have hotplugging support
<acheam> in console or in graphical environment?
<slayr[m]> both
<slayr[m]> /bin/sh: can't create /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug: nonexistent directory
<dilyn> i don't actually make use of hotplugging so i'm no real help here if run into trouble but that should get it working
<slayr[m]> So how to get hotpluggin' support?
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<slayr[m]> I have libudev-zero installed
<slayr[m]> was that what you were referring to?
<acheam> read the hotplugging section
<slayr[m]> where I put the mdev.conf, helper.c, helper.sh?
<slayr[m]> I have a mdev.conf
<slayr[m]> having all the necessary contents
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<slayr[m]> :q
<slayr[m]> how do I close gomuks without killing the whole terminal?
<slayr[m]> nvm found it
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<Guest76> testuser[m] When making custom run file for runit service, is supervise dir also needed?
<Guest76> All my other services in /etc/runit/sv/ have a supervise/ folder that contains files "control lock ok pid stat status"
<Guest76> Don't know what to do about it
<Guest76> Ok never mind according to Void linux wiki its optional
<Guest76> When I type the command "sv start scron" I get the error "down: scron: 1s, normally up, want up"
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<omanom> does it start when you run it manually?
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<claudia> hola
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<acheam> hi
<Guest76> omanom Yes I ran it from the command line like "/usr/local/bin/scron -f /var/spool/cron/mc -n" and it worked. My run file has the same thing except with exec at the start
<Guest76> and the #!/bin/sh at the top
<acheam> chmod +x ?
<omanom> which scron is it?
<Guest76> alright never mind i forgot cronie was running and i guess they were conflicting somehow
<Guest76> it is working now
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<acheam> lol
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<Guest33> why doesn't eiwd support iwctl command? something to do with dbus?
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<soliwilos> I think it communicates with iwd using dbus, but eiwd has dbus removed.
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<rio6> dbus >:(
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<acheam> wow dbus has existed for 19 years
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<Guest9151> I renamed my interface using udev now iwd says No devices in station mode available :sademoji:
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