00:04 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> Disable the Armbian apt repo

00:04 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> And then you can do the standard process and usually survive

05:02 <DC-IRC> <tony06705> hello

05:03 <DC-IRC> <tony06705> everyone

05:04 <DC-IRC> <tony06705> can amlogic soc like s905x3 have gpu driver in the armbian

05:41 <archetech> yes if its a desktop

06:40 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> Nordvpn works on my arch pc

12:01 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yes and not every os install is built the same (configuration, settings, kernel options)... so you cannot make an assumption that just because it works on Arch, it will work on Debian, or Crux or Ubuntu, etc.

12:02 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> And testing from your PC is not testing from the "machine with the issue"

12:05 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> But it says that my router isn't blocking it

12:16 <DC-IRC> <balbes150> Instructions for masochists. A man came to a car dealership for a car, and they handed him a bunch of wrenches, spare parts and said - assemble the car yourself. 😎

12:18 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @0xdamian Yes that might be the case however my point was your reasdoning by saying "your Arch PC" was working is not a valid step in debugging the problem.

12:18 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @0xdamian Yes that might be the case however my point was your reasoning by saying "your Arch PC" was working is not a valid step in debugging the problem.

12:19 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> You are putting extra variables in instead of removing existing ones

12:21 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @balbes150 I would ask that you not make comments like that when you rarely ever provide any instructions other than "Use thiis image"

12:21 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @balbes150 I would ask that you not make comments like that when you rarely ever provide any instructions other than "Use this image"

13:25 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> If the price is good I would easily assemble it

14:13 <DC-IRC> <ct.clmsn> @tenkawa42 will catch you on the pine channel

15:11 <DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> Unnecessary hostility, bring it down a notch

15:13 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> No I will not bring down the way he poorly guides people to do wrecklessly and undocumented things continously and noone says anything about.

15:13 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> No I will not bring down the way he poorly guides people to do recklessly and undocumented things continously and noone says anything about.

15:15 <DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> Calm down. I am asking nicely for now. There is no need for this

15:16 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I "am" calm... This is my first request at him doing things in a proper way.

15:16 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> Don't see it as hostile

15:17 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> "For now" is kinda a threat and being hostile?

15:18 <DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> Damian the nature of moderating can be seen as hostile if you wish to

15:19 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> I also encountered people just posting something as an answer and that's it. Like "FoLlOw ThE gUiDe" while the guy posted a Arg Linux MBR Guide and I was installing arch on a NVME then it was new tech so then I found it myself on YT and then I knew I need to go GPT

15:19 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> The job of a mod isn't just warning people but also ensuring that people are safe.

15:20 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> I don't know the guy but I know what he is talking about. All answers I've received were helpful and not just random links with no comment.

15:21 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> I think he wasn't hostile he just made someone aware of something that could be improved.

15:25 <DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> I get it, but here me out. There are multiple personality conflicts in any project, and in this case there is also a language barrier. Overly passionate rebukes to a tounge-in-cheek observation are not constructive. It's everyone's responsibility to move forward as civilly as possible, and as much as I like Tenkawa, he is very quick to use strong language and very slow to back <clipped message>

15:25 <DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> down. Nothing personal against anyone, but I think this clearly crossed the line and wanted to shut it down before it got ugly.

15:28 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @mackahan No.. Bad documentation is bad documentation plain and simple.. language is no excuse for not properly explaining how something got there and just dumping an image together and telling someone to just "use it" is not acceptable in the software development world, especially from a project (Armbian) who advertises and stresses to people contnously to try to build their own images.

15:29 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> That would "never" be acceptable in most projects.

15:32 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @mackahan No.. Bad documentation is bad documentation plain and simple.. language is no excuse for not properly explaining how something got there and just dumping an image together and telling someone to just "use it" is not acceptable in the software development world, especially from a project (Armbian) who advertises and stresses to people continously to try to build their own images.

15:32 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> And what "strong language" are you talking about? I am very direct and blunt yes... but your definition of strong language is a bit odd.

15:36 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> Idk if he meant direct and straight to the point without dumping it into honey like we talk to women so their feelings don't get a scratch

15:36 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> If you meant that he is rude then I disagree.

15:36 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> heehee

15:38 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @0xdamian I worked in corporate business back office environments and had to learn to walk a very delicate line with conversations.... believe me I had my practice (25 years of it)

15:39 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> The rest of my career I was stuck in offices hidden as admins

15:40 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> I now own a family company so I know what line you're talking about, but I don't go the line. I'm nice and respectful but I don't treat grown people like children and dump my sentences in honey and say sorry at the end to be sure.

15:40 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> I now own a family company so I know what line you're talking about, but I don't go the line. I'm nice and respectful but I don't treat grown adults like children and dump my sentences in honey and say sorry at the end to be sure.

15:40 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Heh yeah in the finance/hr world it was really tough

15:41 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @0xdamian btw are you currently running anything on your Star64?

15:42 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> oh no you had the vpn issue

15:42 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> btw...I had another thought

15:43 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> do you have a terminal handy

15:48 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> It is possible you might be getting hit by a change that was made (I can't remember when/what version) to the kernel and how iptables and netfilter is handled and configured in debian... it uses a package to switch it over but the rules may not have applied yet

15:49 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> and since Armbian is based on Debian/Ubuntu that would cascade over if it is applicable

16:13 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> Rock 5B 😁👍 you've mistaken me I guess

16:14 <p0g0_> Did Armbian just drop support for the rock64? The website seems to suggest it has.

16:14 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @0xdamian I didn't read back up the scrollback far enough.. look down more

16:14 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I think so... just a sec

16:15 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> yes https://discord.com/channels/854735915313659944/857944478269702214/1144051442420822138

16:15 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> oh you are on irc

16:15 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> https://discord.com/channels/854735915313659944/857944478269702214/1144051442420822138

16:15 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> can you see that link?

16:15 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> or do I need to post it manually?

16:17 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> I have no clue why nordvpn doesn't work. Do I need to install a specific arm nordvpn package?

16:17 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @0xdamian Let me look

16:18 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> did you try using the sh <(curl -sSf https://downloads.nordcdn.com/apps/linux/install.sh) method?

16:20 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> If the kernel/helpers doesn't have all the iptables/nftables stuff needed though that could be causing a large part of the problem

16:21 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Linux Firewall is usually what causes 90% of these types of problems (not necessarily user level but system level setup)

16:22 <p0g0_> I got it sorted with the pine64 site's support for the rock64. No help needed now.

17:12 <DC-IRC> <0xdamian> What can I do about it then?

17:15 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Lets first determine if thats what it is... do you have the box running right now with the problem and the software installed?

17:22 <DC-IRC> <jezzaw007> Hi, I have a raspberry pi 2 with octopi 1.9.2 with a usb adapter RTL8192 it was working on an older version but now wont connect to the SSID, everything seems to be correct with config file,

17:23 <DC-IRC> <jezzaw007> Hi, I have a raspberry pi 2 with octopi 1.9.2 with a usb adapter RTL8192 it was working on an older version but now wont connect to the SSID, everything seems to be correct with config file, are there some commands to try figure out why it wont connect? i saw error saying it disables the SSID on 80mhz, but i can split the 2.4 and 5g frequencies

17:23 <DC-IRC> <jezzaw007> Hi, I have a raspberry pi 2 with octopi 1.9.2 with a usb adapter RTL8192 it was working on an older version but now wont connect to the SSID, everything seems to be correct with config file, are there some commands to try figure out why it wont connect? i saw error saying it disables the SSID on 80mhz, but i can't split the 2.4 and 5g frequencies (no feature to split SSID)

19:11 <DC-IRC> <Werner> There is no armbian for rpi2

19:21 <DC-IRC> <jezzaw007> Thanks im in wrong channel

20:20 <yang2_> Getting warning - W: http://apt.armbian.com/dists/bookworm/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.