00:03 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> 🤔https://discourse.nixos.org/t/planning-for-a-better-nixos-on-arm-and-other-non-x86-64-systems/15346

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Hey, I don't know if this is the place to ask but I am experiencing a weird issue with my Rock Pi 4 SE running Armbian. Only 2GB of RAM is accessible on my 4GB board.

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Here's what I tried so far:

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Re-installing (tried both Ubuntu Jammy and Debian Bookworm builds)

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Updating "board firmware" using `armbian-config`

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Flipping the little white switch on the board

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Updating the system (`sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade`)

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Tried switching to the Linux 5.x kernel (did nothing good except break WiFi)

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Got the images from this page: https://www.armbian.com/rockpi4/

01:21 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> When replying, please mention me so I can respond quicker.

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Hey, I don't know if this is the place to ask but I am experiencing a weird issue with my Rock Pi 4 SE running Armbian. Only 2GB of RAM is accessible on my 4GB board.

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Here's what I tried so far:

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Re-installing (tried both Ubuntu Jammy and Debian Bookworm builds)

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Updating "board firmware" using `armbian-config`

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Flipping the little white switch on the board

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Updating the system (`sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade`)

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> - Tried switching to the Linux 5.x kernel (did nothing good except break WiFi)

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Literally only 2GB shows in `/proc/meminfo`. It was working fine before.

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> Got the images from this page: https://www.armbian.com/rockpi4/

01:24 <DC-IRC> <amdbartek> When replying, please mention me so I can respond quicker.

02:10 <DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> @lanefu I thought we all agreed to keep ancient religions off the discord

02:25 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> yes yes you're right i'm sorry

02:26 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> my mind was poisined by krey

17:27 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> You might have more "resources" if it was easier to donate. I just wasted most of an hour trying, could not get past the paypal bs mainly because I've not willingly used them in the last 20 years. I was playing broadcast engineer consultant 2,000 mile west of home 20 years ago and needed a scsi card to fix a commercial server at a tv station in Grand Junction Colorado, and their <clipped message>

17:27 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> delays while verifying it was indeed me but I was coming in thru an elderly winderz box half a dozen states away from my home address, cost us about 60G's in lost revenue. I have a looooong memory for such. Make it so my MC is good and I'll gladly pay my way here to keep the lights turned on. There is one thing I've learned in my 88 years on this rock, TANSTAAFL. If you think <clipped message>

17:27 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> the peanuts are free, recheck the price of that beer you're nursing. ;-)>

17:32 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> Right now, I need a bulletproof method to switch from wayland to xorg so I can run kiauh to feed a 3d printer and a decent graphics based pkg manager. Can that be done?

17:39 <DC-IRC> <Werner> https://www.armbian.com/donate/ there are other ways to donate as well.

17:49 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> "switch from wayland to xorg ", you can change to xorg by logging out and choosing xorg session at log-in screen.

18:14 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> The last time I tried that, there was no activity on the text only tty screen. So this time I'm first boot on the xfce desktop after figuring out a way to save a working network in the emmc memory. So atm its updateing around 240 pkgs. Board is one of 6 bananapi-m5's, sweet board, faster than a pi, just as stable with a decent supply, doesn't need as much cooling, decent price.

18:14 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> Thanks IgorPec

18:16 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> xfce doesn't support wayland IIRC ... so Gnome desktop, there this works

18:18 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> xfce 4.20 does but thats only in sid/unstable atm I do believe

18:20 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> didn't work, bare box for pw, nothing else.

18:20 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> looks like text screen

18:21 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> this is Armbian_23.5.1_Bananapim5_jammy_current_6.1.30_xfce_desktop.img

18:25 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> although the hostname is what I set it to, bpi55, the wm, which ever one it is, still thinks the hostname is bananapi-m5. That makes me suspicious. Thanks.

18:36 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> how did you start 1st boot? Did you create username in the process? Did desktop auto started'

19:14 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> root and user. yes. xfce's menu's look/seem normal, reboot fixed the hostname thing, so I've pulled in kiauh with chromium and installed all of that and firefox is now looking at localhost, which is reporting a printer error cuz I'm nowhere near getting it all wired up, so whatever its running for X is working. Its an early Ender 5 plus I've redesigned & rebuilt using carbon fi <clipped message>

19:14 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> ber here and there, and relative huge stepper/servo's for XY drives, no more stepper slips. I've used quite a few of these motors on my cnc stuff now, quiet, cold, moves like Casper the Ghost is turning the cranks at double the speeds of normal steppers. Somebody should hake a clue stick to google hq and convince them that hijacking port 80 for their advertising bs was a bad id <clipped message>

19:14 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> ea. Chromium looks like a decent browser, but it can't look at localhost:80. Grrrrr....

19:17 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> hmm, port 80 should not be occupied by default

19:17 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> power switch, root and user. yes. xfce's menu's look/seem normal, reboot fixed the hostname thing, so I've pulled in kiauh with chromium and installed all of that and firefox is now looking at localhost, which is reporting a printer error cuz I'm nowhere near getting it all wired up, so whatever its running for X is working. Printer is an early Ender 5 plus I've redesigned & re <clipped message>

19:17 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> built using carbon fiber here and there, and relative huge stepper/servo's for XY drives, no more stepper slips. I've used quite a few of these motors on my cnc stuff now, quiet, cold, moves like Casper the Ghost is turning the cranks at double the speeds of normal steppers. Somebody should hake a clue stick to google hq and convince them that hijacking port 80 for their advert <clipped message>

19:17 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> ising bs was a bad idea. Chromium looks like a decent browser, but it can't look at localhost:80. Grrrrr....

19:17 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> at least not clean install. As far as applications you are trying to use, here I don't know nothing

19:18 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> so it must be something broken on the install of printer softwarer

19:18 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> mainsail uses nginx port 80 to let us run printers from anyplace on the local natwork. works a treat.

19:20 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> ok

19:21 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> I /think/ nginx can be told to use any port # but this has been Just Working since klipper came on the scene.

19:21 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes, you can configure that ... i am sorry, but i never used klipper, so i am pretty in the dark here

19:22 <IgorPec> @juri_ you are runnnig 3d priner ?

19:24 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> I know apache2 can use other ports, so I doubt if nginx is restricted. klipper/moonraker and mainsail is faster and a lot more pleasant to look at than octoprint.

19:25 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> i am sure both can set any port, but don't know nothing about sw you are mentioning

19:25 <DC-IRC> <igorpec> someone else will need to step in here

19:26 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> They can all be reconfigured... btw you should never use localhost as the listener ip ... never a good idea unless you strictly want it to be restricted to internal communications only..

19:26 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> They can all be reconfigured... btw you should never use localhost(127.0.0.1/127.0.1.1) as the listener ip ... never a good idea unless you strictly want it to be restricted to internal communications only..

19:27 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> They can all be reconfigured... btw you should never use localhost(127.0.0.1/127.0.1.1) as the listener ip ... never a good idea unless you strictly want it to be restricted to internal(machine non network) communications only..

19:34 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> Anyway, I'm now ready to finish configuring and wiring up an Ender 5 Plus to run at 300-600 mm/sec if everything works. If and when I find a round tuit and bring up my web page again (I lost it all in a pair of 2t sea-crates I'd just installed that went belly up in the night two weeks later) so I am everything but starting from scratch. Needless to say I'm also replacing ALL sp <clipped message>

19:34 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> inning rust with SSD's, two drives to go in 8 machines ATM. That rejuvenates older hardware cuz they're 4 to 6x faster than spinning rust.

19:35 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yeah.. no more SR drives lol

19:35 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> all SSD

19:36 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I have a stack of NVMe's here

19:43 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> This also works at that machines ipv4 address on the same local net. All my stuff here is behind a router running dd-wrt. Nothing gets in I don't invite. My hdwe is older, no NVMe sockets in sight. Even my rpi4b has around 350G's of SSD's pluged into usb3 ports. ;o)> thanks guy's & gals.

19:44 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> It has nothing to do with security... 127.0.0.1/127.0.1.1 are loopback (non-routeable) ip addresses... ie unreachable outside of that machine

19:56 <DC-IRC> <wowelectronics> So is 192.168.xx.yy in ipv4 mapping, never makes it to the net and vice-versa. One last question, how can I donate w/o involving paypal? I could probably have my bank mail you a draught every quarter, enough to cover the peanuts maybe. But I'd have to have an addr & phone # for that.

19:59 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> actually 192.168 is a perfectly mappable ipv4 address

19:59 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> it is a "privately reserved" ip range

20:00 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> It is not routed over the internet

21:41 <DC-IRC> <tomini> I bought new microSD card and I still cannot reboot my Odroid HC4 😦

21:44 <DC-IRC> <c0rnelius77> reboot or power on?

21:47 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Reboot

21:48 <DC-IRC> <tomini> https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=47196

21:50 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @tomini how are you powering this unit?

21:50 <DC-IRC> <tomini> What do you mean?

21:50 <DC-IRC> <tomini> The original PSU

21:50 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> What voltage/amperage

21:50 <DC-IRC> <tomini> 15V/4A

21:51 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Do you have a volt/multimeter?

21:51 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Nope.

21:51 <DC-IRC> <c0rnelius77> did it ever reboot properly using armbian?

21:51 <DC-IRC> <tomini> If it can boot and not reboot, then the issue is not in electricity...

21:52 <DC-IRC> <tomini> I don't know. I typed `reboot` and `sudo reboot`.

21:52 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> That is "not" a safe assumption.. rule #1 don't assume things like that

21:54 <DC-IRC> <c0rnelius77> I don't own the board but have a C4 and that requires a driver and correlating node in the DTS to get it to reboot. Same goes a for a lot of G12/SM1 boards.

21:55 <DC-IRC> <c0rnelius77> I can't say for sure that is the problem but I wouldn't be shocked.

21:55 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @c0rnelius77 the pull down pin reset basicly?

21:55 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> down/up (whichever it is)

21:55 <DC-IRC> <c0rnelius77> sorta... some trick from the BSP kernel.

21:55 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> yeah.. that

21:56 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @mackahan might know

21:56 <DC-IRC> <skorupion> Hello eveyone, how are y'all doing?

21:56 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @skorupion enjoying actually non roasting weather finally

21:57 <DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (and non-raining)

21:59 <DC-IRC> <skorupion> deam

21:59 <DC-IRC> <skorupion> for me its a thunderstorm, but thankfully not raining

22:01 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> What's plugged into the USB port?

22:09 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Keyboard

22:09 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Just some 5€ genius. No RGB.

22:10 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Just some 5€ Genius. No RGB.

22:18 <DC-IRC> <tomini> When I was plugging the DC into HC4 it sparked.

22:22 <DC-IRC> <tomini> I disconnected HDD (and fan), now not even red LED after reboot

22:31 <DC-IRC> <tomini> What does "**No end-user support: built from trunk**" mean?

22:34 <DC-IRC> <tomini> What does "**No end-user support: built from trunk**" mean?

22:34 <DC-IRC> <tomini> > I mean what does it mean for me...? No updates?

22:35 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> If you do a cold boot without anything plugged into USB. Ssh in and issue a reboot... Does it reboot?

22:38 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> A gentle way of saying "as-is don't expect much help unless a random community member happens to be helpful"

22:38 <DC-IRC> <tomini> I clicked Install/Update bootloader on MDT and it might have fixed it. Also apt upgrade to newer Armbian I think...

22:38 <DC-IRC> <tomini> But I tried Installing to MDT and it didnt help previously whatsoever

22:39 <DC-IRC> <tomini> I mean I compiled a normal distro. Standard image, current (not edge), not custom stuff...

22:39 <DC-IRC> <tomini> But if I should switch to something more normal I will

22:40 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> Any image not published by the Official Armbian builder CI is gonna have that disclaimer

22:40 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Okay, it reboots even with keyboard and HDMI. Now I will plug drive+fan.

22:40 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> "support" is a historically contentious topic

22:41 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> Usually that reboot stuff is related to uboot stuffs..... and I used to see that issue on amlogic devices whenever USB devices were plugged in

22:42 <DC-IRC> <tomini> contentious = something that causes argument, right?

22:42 <DC-IRC> <lanefu> Yeah

22:42 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Actually good troubleshooting step. I think I tried disconnecting, but I might have missed some distro trying it like that.

23:53 <DC-IRC> <tomini> Idk... it started to work randomly. I etched the image on old microSD and it works too. Bruh...