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<DC-IRC> <microlinux> Guys, do you know if I can deploy an armhf userspace for a board from the builder? It's about saving ram for most parts.
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<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> I've seen this mentioned in the forums, I don't think we have anything built up to do that
<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> What do we look like? RPi?
<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> 😄
* archetech is hand building the latest armv8 gcc toolchain
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<DC-IRC> <tomini> Hello,
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Hello,
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I cannot succefully reboot my Odroid HC4 running `Armbian_23.5.1_Odroidhc4_jammy_current_6.1.30`
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I used to use Odroid HC4 as a NAS with CLI-only Armbian and OMV on it...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > It wasn't perfect, but it did the job. Neede more SATA ports, so I put it away.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I blew the dust off it as a dop-off NAS with old drives. But this issue persists.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I remember solving it back then by downgrading to like 5.10 kernel with some suffix.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> (it doesn't boot back up, I have to power cycle it by unplugging PSU)
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Hello,
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I cannot succefully reboot my Odroid HC4 running `Armbian_23.5.1_Odroidhc4_jammy_current_6.1.30`
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I used to use Odroid HC4 as a NAS with CLI-only Armbian and OMV on it...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > It wasn't perfect, but it did the job. Needed more SATA ports, so I put it away.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I blew the dust off it as a dop-off NAS with old drives. But this issue persists.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I remember solving it back then by downgrading to like 5.10 kernel with some suffix.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Hello,
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I **cannot succefully reboot my Odroid HC4** running `Armbian_23.5.1_Odroidhc4_jammy_current_6.1.30`
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I used to use Odroid HC4 as a NAS with CLI-only Armbian and OMV on it...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > It wasn't perfect, but it did the job. Needed more SATA ports, so I put it away.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > **I blew the dust off it as a dop-off NAS with old drives. But this issue persists.**
<DC-IRC> <tomini> > I remember solving it back then by downgrading to like 5.10 kernel with some suffix.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I don't think running old kernel is the best idea for a NAS. I won't open it up most likely from external access, but you never know...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I don't think running old kernel is the best idea for a NAS. I won't open it up most likely for an external access, but you never know...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Thanks for any tips!
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Actually if you are running something like a NAS with an established yet low number of serices you do want an estsblished and stable set of software (kernel/drivers) so don't view that as old as much as well tested.. 6.1 is very much in flux and is highly changing still (and has had numerous problems)
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Okay, but 5.10 is like 2 years old at least
<DC-IRC> <tomini> But I get what you are saying. I believe that I paused apt updating in general back then or at least on some packages...
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> apt has nothing to do with the kernel
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> the kernel is independemt of your os packages
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I know.
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> the kernel is independent of your os packages
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I am saying that I get what you mean by having a stable set of software.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Will it even work? Sch old kernel with new Armbian and new OMV?
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Will it even work? Such old kernel with new Armbian and new OMV?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I unfortunately don't know OMV so I cannot answer that one... if it cannot then I would say that OMV's design is highly flawed
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (since there are large apps still in the indutry on 4.x and earlier kernels)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (since there are large apps still in the indutsry on 4.x and earlier kernels)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (since there are large apps still in the industry on 4.x and earlier kernels)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> longterm: 4.14.322 2023-08-11 is still being actively supported
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I'll bbialw... need to run an errand
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Have you tried Debian?
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> OMV requires debian bullseye not Ubuntu jammy
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> is omv the one they decomm'ed
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Is omv the one they decomm'ed?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Or is it the replacement
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> neither as far as I know
<archetech> no arm support
<archetech> stil works with deb though
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @lanefu I looked up what I was remembering... omv was a fork of FBSD's FreeNAS
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> way back in the dark ages
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddhalt> hi
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<SidDaTechieGuyy> hi
* SidDaTechieGuyy Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 4
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> ah yeah i vaguely remember that
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> It was ancient
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> FreeBSD is taking a fairly active part in RISC-V though.. which is cool
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<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @lanefu hey... do you or who might know how to track down a Dvorak keyboard problem?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I might have been able to in the late 90's when I was working on them... but I am way too rusty
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Hmm no wisdom there. My only Dvorak friend uses a mac
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Same (me)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Someone on desktop channel got theirs stuck in Dvorak and it womt go back to Qwerty
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> none of the debug links/etc we've found seem to work
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Where do the say that?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> right here
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> aww you beat me
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Tenkawa's right
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> 😂
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> so were you..
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> but intriguing they don't put that up front more
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Easier to shame users on forum later probably
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Also I think more normal pattern is to install from off the shelf image so it's a little more implied until the SBC lifestyle showed up
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Indeed
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> I'll stay omv6 is pretty good and clean. They use salt stack now for some of the config management
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> I have it on that hc4 where /boot needed an fsck lol
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> I'll say omv6 is pretty good and clean. They use salt stack now for some of the config management
<DC-IRC> <tomini> You have HC4?
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Yeah
<DC-IRC> <tomini> What version of Armbian and kernel are you using?
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> I'm a bad person to ask because I do my own Armbian builds
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> So ..... some build from spring of 2021 using kernel 5.10
<DC-IRC> <tomini> So this should be fine?
<DC-IRC> <tomini> https://imola.armbian.com/archive/odroidhc4/archive/#:~:text=01%2023%3A07-,Armbian_22.08.1_Odroidhc4_bullseye_current_5.10.139.img.xz,-2022%2D08%2D30
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> Welcome to Armbian 22.11.1 Jammy with Linux 6.0.12-meson64
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> System load: 2% Up time: 243 days 7:30
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> this is mine
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> try
<DC-IRC> <tomini> And reboot works for you?
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes, it works on this kernel
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> but my build is also custom
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I thought so, cuz I cant find that combo
<DC-IRC> <tomini> And you are using HC4, too?
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes but as you can seee "Up time: 243 days 7:30"
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> last reboot was long time ago.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Damn, I didnt know HC4 was that popular...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> If you didn't update the kernel, it should be fine.
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Solid device delivers on its promises
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Also, yeah the uptime is very good 😄
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> why would i upgrade it? Its behind FW and I serve the purpuse 😉
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Yeah sadly just shouldn't update kernels on critical stuff like that it's too risky
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> why would i upgrade it? Its behind FW and it serve the purpuse 😉
<DC-IRC> <tomini> So what now... I never build my own OS
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Can I build it straight on the Odroid? I doubt that...
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> you can
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> but it will be slow
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Or can I force install that kernel?
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> we have two of Rock5 as a CI build runners in place
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> they are building whatever is needed
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> you can install kernel which you will build if you are asking that
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @igorpec wait.... I have the CI size cluster sitting beside me?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> heh
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> haha, nah, those small boards are not that reliable
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> only since K6 is in good enough shape ... on legacy 5.10 is useless
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> My 2 have been reliable when I don't do crazy stuff
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> here we run regular armbian build script in several github runner env
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I added 18" fan today to my table lol
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> oh, i also have two fans around those boards
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> temp dropped 10 degrees to all machines
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> lol
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> i got 12cm fans blowing into Rock5 direction, where some big heat seanks sits on
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> so far its going well
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (nice when you have a secured isolated room that you can't hear this loud fan lol)
<DC-IRC> <tomini> So I am running: *Welcome to* **Armbian 23.05.1 Jammy** *with* **Linux 6.1.11-meson64**
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> i am 100km away from them 😉
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Weird... I would swear that I tried switching kernel via the armbian-config
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Perhaps because it hangs on reboot it didnt finish the kernel switch
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> no, that's not the case
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> switching is probably n/a because whole firmware is frozen
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> 1st step is unfreezing kernel
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> then you can switch
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I never froze it
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> no, its frozen by default
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Only if it"s frozen by default
<DC-IRC> <tomini> oh xd
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> to help you survive in this world
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Hold up... I froze it now and it's red and says defreeze
<DC-IRC> <tomini> It didnt previously...
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes, second one "Enable Armbian kernel ..."
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I believe that it isnt by default. Perhaps when you are making your custom builds it will be defaulted to that
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> it is by default
<DC-IRC> <tomini> But I froze it now.
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> believe me, i set it
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> some images are, not all
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Color coded... blah
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<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> *colorblind*
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I will try this one, since its the closest to yours
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Hold up... I froze it now and it's red and says defreeze
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> we have freezing to exclude kernel and firmware upgrade out of standard apt upgrade command
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes. try that
<DC-IRC> <tomini> This is partially why I switched to Synology...
<DC-IRC> <tomini> ...and then regretted very much so
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I will save up and settle on middleground with Unraid or TrueNAS
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> lol they hooked me with surveillance station
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> mah, you don't need nothing from truenas or unraid
<DC-IRC> <tomini> wdym?
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Well it's not as sketchy as OMV
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> i started using it and bought a bunch of camera licenses
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> i am running plain armbian on NAS
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> on both NASes
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Aaaah, yeah the licenses are BS IMO
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Odroid is still the quietest NAS. The Syno is a rattling mess and I did all the mods to it.
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> i have an armbian x86 VM running on my synology
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> anyway all NAS solutions have constraints and sometimes it worth it and sometimes its not
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> hc4 is neat, yes, just two drives are entry level
<DC-IRC> <tomini> What a$$hole thought metal skeleton inside plastic exterior is a good idea? M0ron
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> i bought my synology cuz i was sick of writing my on smb.conf after 10 years
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> smb.conf ... what's that ? 🙂
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Yupp. Very entry level. Issues and more bays made me switch.
<DC-IRC> <tomini> ...to a 4 bay just to set my data hoarding needs only few years in future xd
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> and i deserved an appliance
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> asustor looks most appealing from afar
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Okay it finished the kernel, but now it hangs on red light... 😕
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> i think i'll count m2 slots on next one
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> well, you might need to update boot loader too
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> that is a bit more tricky
<DC-IRC> <tomini> omg M.2 are yummy... if only Syno wouldnt handicap them
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> you need to have the same version of u-boot package as you have kernel
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> once you install that, run armbian-config and update boot loader
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> that's all, but no warranties of success
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> and you need to boot without SPI bootloader, that has to be erased before
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I deleted Petitboot if that is what you mean
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> i assume you get into the system if you power cycle?
<DC-IRC> <tomini> yupp
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> now install the same version of linux-u-boot-SOMETHING ... that your kernel is 22.11.1 (or whatever is)
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> how to install specific version from repository = google
<DC-IRC> <tomini> hol up i gotta check what happened with the kernel switch
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> ok
<DC-IRC> <tomini> ok, Armbian 23.05.1 Jammy with Linux 6.0.10-meson64
<DC-IRC> <tomini> There were 4 options I remember
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> option 5
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<DC-IRC> <igorpec> ups
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> this one
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I already updated
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> ok
<DC-IRC> <tomini> wget or how?
<DC-IRC> <tomini> I already updated (I mean clicked the 5th option, didnt update uboot)
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> wget then dpkg -i filename.deb
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> and then armbian-install - > (5) again
<DC-IRC> <tomini> oh, amrbian-install?
<DC-IRC> <tomini> Still hangs
<DC-IRC> <tomini> i quit, this is rediculous. cant even reboot ffs
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