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<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Yeah, known issue being looked into
<jspiros>
in a built armbian image, is there anywhere that the .conf files used by the armbian build system are stored/copied to, or are those not kept around?
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<DC-IRC>
<Werner> No
<DC-IRC>
<Werner> No, only exists in github repo
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<DC-IRC>
<igorpec> problem with broken download pages should be gone
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> Right. Many ordinary normal users buy these devices not to "play cool developers", but for banal simple use in work / study, etc., similar to a regular PC. They need a ready-made system with minimal and simple start-up instructions that can be performed by any untrained user, without complex and dangerous steps. For example, on the official Armbian Visiofive2 download page there <clipped message>
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> is a link to u-boot updates, it is interesting to see the reaction of an ordinary user who needs to perform these steps to start the system. His reaction will be - Armbian this shit and throw it in the trash. I strive to ensure that absolutely any user can easily launch and use the system and tell everyone that Armbian is the best and most convenient system. This creates a negati <clipped message>
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> ve assessment of Armbian among users and creates the opinion that Armbian developers are not qualified and are not able to create a convenient and simple system for users.
<archetech>
your images are more like experiments than stable end user images
<archetech>
especially the rk3588 ones
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> This is my first Armbian install ever that I have on my Rock 5B. The fact that it's just an image you throw on the SD card makes it simpler to install than windows.
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> My current issue is that I always need to wipe the first few blocks at the start with dd /dev/zero if I don't the system fails to start and yes I'm using the Pi Imager and still need to use dd /Dev/zero and then format it to GPT and then it works instantly.
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> Why did I choose Armbian? Because this is specifically ARM focused and not Ubuntu who focuses on x64 x86 etc but Armbian focuses on ARM.
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> I could say "eh I install archlinuxarm" but even tho my bigger machine with a 7950x3d and 7900XT uses Arch Linux I want to use Armbian on my Rock 5B. I also put trust in Armbian and want to support it, same as I support FreeCAD.
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> I also chose the Rock 5B as a replacement for my miniPC AsRock x300 + 3200G.
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> I use the official Armbian image on my Rock 5B
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> I will install (at least try to) Armbian on a NVME and idk wtf I'm getting into
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> Strangely, Armbian images should run immediately on Rock 5B without manual manipulation without any problems. Perhaps the reason is in the recording program, try to completely erase the SD card and record it with the recommended recording program. p.s unlike Rock5, launching the official Armbian on Star64\VF2 according to official instructions will be "an exciting quest not for t <clipped message>
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> What are your complaints (what doesn't work) with LEGACY images (which are recommended to regular users)?
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<archetech>
I have your rock5 gnome midstream 6.2 pancsf
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> Explain, what's this modtream 6.2 pancsf
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> Explain, what's this midtream 6.2 pancsf
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> Explain, what's this midstream 6.2 pancsf
<archetech>
balbes build from april
<DC-IRC>
<rpardini> midstream 6.2 pancsf is an experiment. Googulator took half of a upstream (mainline) kernel, half of a downstream (vendor kernel), thus midstream. PanCSF was early effort with CSF Valhal GPU.
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<archetech>
nothing new since then released gpu wise makes me wanna choke a collabora dev
<DC-IRC>
<efectn> There are another kernel tree for collabora + panthor + vop2
<archetech>
yeah and not one peep about somebody testing/running that
<archetech>
arm nazi's release board no gpu soup for you...come back 1 year
<archetech>
all the monitoring of panfrost dev for n2 I did ya's think i'd have learned but panfrost had constant work happening that could be used/tested
<archetech>
valhal...nothing
<archetech>
I thought valhall would have same attention when I bought rock5
<yang2_>
0xdamian Armbian on Rock 5B works very well IMHO
<yang2_>
But I don't use X on it
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> This is obviously an experimental development (just look at the rate of change of mesa), which does not belong to the category of "end products for ordinary users" . And as far as I know, this will be officially supported in mesa in the future. Perhaps a lot of new things have appeared in this direction, I have fallen behind and have not checked it for a long time.
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> By the way, what do you have installed in SPI? Have you changed its contents, recorded any versions of u-boot there?
<archetech>
I but preferred radxa's uboot in spi over armbians
<archetech>
if we all stuck with fraken kernels why use armbs
<DC-IRC>
<0xdamian> No, the NVME just arrived and I need to get home to start doing anything
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<gaaichan998>
Hi guys, if I add a couple of files to the image using a loop mount and change some configurations before burning. Will there be any problem?
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<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> No one forces you to use it (no one is standing at your temple with a gun and does not require you to use only Armbian), if you do not like the system, do not use it. What is the problem?
<archetech>
and to those that say I dont use the gpu you're a sucker shoulda bought a diff board a third of the value unused
<archetech>
it can be better thats the issue
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius77> oh here we go 😄
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> My bigger problem is being told "here's something... but refusing to go through the normal processess the other 99% do to do the same thing"
<archetech>
good morin to ten cow and cornhead
<archetech>
mornin*
<DC-IRC>
<c0rnelius77> archetech, ur up early. You got a bible study class you need to attend or just getting the trolling in early?
* archetech
tries to be friendly gets the usual crap
<DC-IRC>
<balbes150> Can I see a link to this kernel ?
<archetech>
who me?
<archetech>
uname -a
<archetech>
Linux rock-5b 6.2.0-rc1-station-m3 #23.02.3
<Werner>
No. Oleg quoted EfeCTN. The quoted message isn't relayed. Therefore unfortunately some context gets missing in that direction.
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<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> 3588 works pretty well headless now, so it's only value to the world as a worker drone is fulfilled. The made by Mattel GPU is irrelevant. 😉
<archetech>
its Hasbro gpu
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Perfect.
<archetech>
gpu's can be irrev if ya dont pay for the board like you wise guy
<archetech>
your just sore from that Phytium d2000 loss :p
<archetech>
what a paper weight eh lol
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Hahahahaha
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> I'm sure I can get whichever regulator exploded swapped out, I just haven't looked to see which one it was
<archetech>
lane will unload his for ya
<DC-IRC>
<shivasiddhalt> great i just got banned in a server cuz they tought this was my alt account
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<archetech>
LattePanda Sigma is a 3.5-inch single board computer (SBC) with an Intel Core i5-1340P Raptor Lake-P processor
<archetech>
I think arm is done
<archetech>
16 gb ram 16 cores
<archetech>
12 cores 16 threads
<archetech>
ddr5-6400
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> my actual work in house is done on an Odroid H3+, everything works without pain
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> my NAS is still ARM, but that should change in the future as I can't experiment on supporting my production unit 😄
<archetech>
I dont think ya get it...that panda is like a ryzen 7 5800 on a credit card
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> I absolutely get it, but it's also expensive
<archetech>
tiny matters not $
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> the actual ARM is done hardware is in the only place ARM ever won, and that's power consumption and cost
<archetech>
cuz what can we say we like tiny computers right c0rn
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<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> tiny is super cool, but at $700 it better be life changing 😉
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> unloaded my phytium a while back
<archetech>
ya you get your boards for nuttin and the chicks are free ;)
<archetech>
ooh you got an rock5 i wanna party w/ you cowboy
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> yeah mainline good enough for my needs on rock5b now.. need to figure out my provisioning stuff i wanan do... but currently my interest is in nanopi r5s and replacing my router with it
<archetech>
r6s
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> dvfs is still hosed on pure mainline, but getting there
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> don't need r6s... r5s is where it's at
<archetech>
im flyin to china...they owe me a gpu driver lol
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> XD
<archetech>
nas wise a rock5 w/ a 4 port nvme card and sdcard for os is about as crazy fast low cost nas there is
<archetech>
yall bought those 3399 based things another loser
<archetech>
they folded
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> yeah that's where i think the right RK3568 board is really a better value for basic NAS than RK3588
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> what's the verdict of using SATA w/ port multiplier on Rock5B btw
<archetech>
can do sata or nvme
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> in that circumstnace.. SATA rust on port multiplier + an NVME for cache would be ideal
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> i know it "can", but has anybody done it successfully
<archetech>
a few on radxa forum have
<archetech>
its got two nvme slots
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> you're being generous describing the tiny 1x PCIe slot meant for wifi as an "NVME slot"
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> and yes that port is muxed with SATA
<archetech>
I am bit its ok for a os drive
<archetech>
but
<DC-IRC>
<infinity_q> good morning
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> yeah but finding an NVMe at that size, or buying an adapter for a fullsize one, kind of steers away from some of the pricepoint of using nvme there IMHO....
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<DC-IRC>
<foutkassir> Hello everyone, I just bought an orange pi zero 3 which is using SoC h618 is it supported cause I cannot find anything related to it on armbian
<DC-IRC>
<foutkassir> if not what is the best way to get armbian on it and I am really newbie in building images from scratch but would be interested to know how
<DC-IRC>
<foutkassir> if not what is the best way to get armbian on it and I am really newbie in building images from scratch but would be interested to know how and also if it's recommended to do it
<DC-IRC>
<foutkassir> Hello everyone, I just bought an orange pi zero 3 which is using SoC h618 with 4GB DDR4 RAM. is it supported cause I cannot find anything related to it on armbian
<jspiros>
I've personally so far just used the Debian bookworm image (with 6.1 kernel) that OrangePi provides at that downloads page, works well
<archetech>
ncie spoon feed
<archetech>
nice
<jspiros>
I'm using the same board myself for a project
<jspiros>
just ordered 5 more from them
<jspiros>
I may try my hand at getting proper support in armbian, as it's pretty close to the zero 2 with some changes
<archetech>
its new so vendor img is best
<jspiros>
mainline kernel supports the hardware as of 6.5something
<jspiros>
yeah, it's new
<jspiros>
cheap and powerful for some things, which is nice :)
<jspiros>
promo pricing probably
<DC-IRC>
<efectn> Btw orange pi zero 3 is mainlined
<jspiros>
indeed
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<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> once this gets merged, adding experimental -edge kernel builds of Zero3 might be doable for whoever decides that's how they want to live their life
<DC-IRC>
<clever___> > The people who made the TV show are actually the same people who did the CGI for the "Money For Nothing" Music video
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<DC-IRC>
<foutkassir> Thanks jspiros for your suggestion I was about use it but since I am used to armbian will keep an eye on this PR 🙂
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<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> I am holding it for now for two things i.e. I need someone to test if the Pinebook A64 display works on 6.5 kernel from that PR and second is release of 6.5 kernel which should happend on coming sunday. Once both of those are cleared, will remove the WIP from there
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<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> Hi all!
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> My usb port don't work with jammy on my orange pi plus 2 like this user :
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> I think you can build for plus 2e, just use edge kernel. I noticed one extra option enabled there that is not enabled for current kernel. So edge image might work
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> But again this is all theoretical
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> looks hard but i can try.
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> all you need to do is run ./compile.sh and follow give it input from the dialog boxes that are shown on screen. You might have to choose expert mode
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<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> all you need to do is run ./compile.sh and give it input to the dialog boxes that are shown on screen. You might have to choose expert mode
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> it's look like i just have to choose the right device for my board
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> yes, right device and when given the choice for kernel, choose edge
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> ok
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> yes, right device and when given the choice for kernel or branch, choose edge
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> and i was wrong, the orange pi plus 2 is more similar to the orange pi plus
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> Orange Pi Plus is pretty similar regarding USB/SATA but has half the amount of DRAM and eMMC storage
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> you can give that image a try then
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<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> if it doesn't work then try building edge kernel
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> ok so, i found the orange pi plus in expert mode
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> Looks like we don't build orangepi plus images any more. But you should be able to build it yourself. It should show up in expert mode
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> and i choose edge like you said
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> yes, go ahead with the build
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> every things looks to goo fine for the moment...
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> go*
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> lets hope the image works for you. I am however going to sleep now. Its 4 AM in the morning for me. My bed time 🙂
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> ok have a good night and thank you so much
<DC-IRC>
<viraniac> Will look for your message once I wake up to see how it went for you.
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> you're awsome !
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<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> It works ! i have to try to install klipper now
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> nice
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> i would like to share this image after testing it. How could i do it ?
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> Good q.. there's ways to do it depending where you are and have access to.. Github, etc
<DC-IRC>
<fa6i3n> ok, i will try github. let's go to bed now. good night all!