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<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> pc x86 turn off than 2 day later i turn on grub worked boot than halt come out l.... command boot broken how i find info to fix boot so can get back to os (gui) again
<archetech> howd ya greak it
<archetech> break
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<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> i am on win 11 will have to reboot to armbain
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> I have no idea after turn off than on surprise can't boot to OS so I show you video
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> I try again use recovery
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> With recovery thannhalt
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> How fix?
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<archetech> paste errors not videos
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> How I grab data error
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<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> What about photo and you can see?
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<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> I was read say need fsck manual how I run it fsck /dev/sda3??????
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> Got it to run fsck
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> Yah working
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> Thank to use fsck
<DC-IRC> <jazza7242> Thank for try help me
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<linfax> hello, are there any means like kgdb to debug the kernel during bootup? Not in the early stages but when the driver modules are loaded? THX
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<archetech> debugkernel?
<archetech> is the quality bad never heard of such thing
<archetech> linus would be offended
<linfax> debugkernel, is this actually the name of the tool?
<archetech> debug kernel?
<archetech> typo
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<linfax> something like kgdb, but for stepping though the kernel code while bootup which is different of course because this mess up the whole boot process
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> linfax: yeah using kgdb on a arm/arm64 kernel is a bit tricky. You can add verbose INIT_VERBOSE=yes to the bootline and make sure there is no "quiet" though and it should output a lot more to the console tty.
<archetech> what are you trying to do is the point
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> archetech: seems fairly obvious to me. He wants to run the kernel debugger
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Which is not an easy thing to do on arm64
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (or arm in general)
<archetech> and I asked why
<linfax> kgdb works pretty fine, after the bootprocess has finished, also for ARM. no problem so far. but debugging the kernel in boot process is a whole different story.
<archetech> you would use a serial probe
<linfax> I want to debug driver modules in their boot process
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> linfax: which soc?
<linfax> when its getting initialized and hardware probes, and all this
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Thats what I mean... they aren't build for debugging pre-boot due to the initialization method differences
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> er built
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> They use a different method since they use device tree..
<linfax> processor is freescale imx6 ARMv7
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> arm7? ouch. Not even sure if any of our tools still support armv7
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Thats all legacy at t his point
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<DC-IRC> <igorpec> imx6 we have theoretical support
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> even one device is enabled in auto test rig 😉 https://github.com/armbian/os#latest-smoke-tests-results
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @igorpec yeah but isn't that... use at your own risk at best?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Is there anything still made anymore with it currently?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> (the imx6)
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes, imx6 is on own risc
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yes, imx6 is on own risk, not supported
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> but it at least build and boot on a device that was once supported
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> i have it and until i don't need a slot ... its fully automatic
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> heheh
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> perhaps once armbian-retro emerges and those board will become important 😉 i have a box of exotics
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> haahaa armbian-retro.. nice name
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I think my NanoPi Neo Plus 2 fits in the retro category now (Allwinner H5)
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> h5 is 64b
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yeah but its ancient still
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> yeah, those were among first, but i think a64 was even before
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Its a spaceheater even though its the size of a bottlecap
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I have a large fan bolted to it just keeping it cool "when" I use it
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> Does Armbian supports FDE?
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> By FDE I mean Full Disk Encryption
<DC-IRC> <igorpec> https://docs.armbian.com/Developer-Guide_Build-Options/ -> CRYPTROOT_ENABLE="yes"
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> Thank you!
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> I have 1 weird question, what's the smallest and power efficient Allwinner SBC?
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> Maybe I'll buy new SBC soon
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> I need something really small
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> Something that I can fit in my pocket
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<KREYREN> Is there a way to build armbian without docker? I want to try develop a thing that buidls it entirelly on nix
<DC-IRC> <garfius1> https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-4-lts/ <-- works on Orange Pi CM4 Compute Module 4 ?¿
<DC-IRC> <efectn> Cm4 is quite different board, it won't work
<DC-IRC> <garfius1> ok, thanks👍
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<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @TuxTheArchUser how much you looking at spending and how much power you need?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @TuxTheArchUser There's quite a few FriendlyElec boards that are small but they don't have loads of power.. Khadas has some really small boards with a fair amount of power (like the Edge2) but they are on the pricier side.
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<DC-IRC> <.superdev> Hello, I have been curious about whether I can install desktop Linux on an android phone.
<DC-IRC> <.superdev> Does anyone have any idea if it is feasible?
<yang2_> superdev postmarketos.org
<yang2_> is an operating system primarily for smartphones, based on the Alpine Linux distribution
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<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> I don't really need something really powerful, something with enough power to run basic X11 server with tiling window manager with terminal and IRC client
<archetech> odroid c4 or n2L
<archetech> m1
<DC-IRC> <TuxTheArchUser> Oki
<archetech> and N2+ is best for desktops on market for value