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<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> Is there a tool in armbian to get a cpu speed? I am working on trying to get my ALL-H3-CC, nothing showing up
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> I tired hwinfo, no luck
<archetech> inxi
<sunshavi> cpupower
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> inxi is nice 1Ghz
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<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> nothing is showing up?
<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> weird, but yeah should be 1 GHz for an H3
<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> new image?
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> no, inxi shows 1Ghz
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> It wasn't showing
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> `cpufrequency-info`
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<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> Thanks both are good to know
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<KREYREN> heyo~
<KREYREN> IgorPec, can you elaborate https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/5585#issuecomment-1678870579 ? To me it looks like an issue in `lib/functions/artifacts/artifact-armbian-base-files.sh:87`
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> no.. that file is not valid
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> btw debian-ports has been moved
<KREYREN> oh hmm O.o
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> it is being moved out of ports... debian is in the process of moving everything out of debian-ports so Armbian/other distributions may all need to change sources entries
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> riscv64 became official about 2 weeks ago and not just a port
<KREYREN> noted
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I had to shut my 2 boxes down for an electrician about to be here or I would paste the new sources.list
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> yep
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> that works
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> but its going to eventually move too
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> nothing with debian-ports will remain
<KREYREN> So armbian issue right? -> Is that being addressed or should i look into it?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> it will all be the standard names
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> for now keep it in
<KREYREN> oke is there a hotfix to make it build? (edit hosts?)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> the process is ongoing... they (debian) are continously converting the repos
* KREYREN wants to look into porting the lichee 4a
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> then armbian can pull in the updated sources
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> then armbian can pull in the updated sources/binaries
<KREYREN> oke
<KREYREN> thanks for info ^-^
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<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> np
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<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @<KREYREN> do not quote me but I think this is what I am currently running (I found a backup on my remote backup)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I might have 1 or 2 more lines in it though..
<KREYREN> hm? armbian can build outside docker?
<KREYREN> or are you adding these in the docker? O.o
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> of course.. docker is a relatively new thing
<KREYREN> oh didn't know that, how? if it's on debian/ubuntu it won't use docker or is there a CLI option?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I've never used docker
<KREYREN> for me it uses it automatically on nixos :D
<KREYREN> i take a look through the source then~ might be able to implement nixos compatibility
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Gotta run.. sounds like eletrician just got here.. heard truck door
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> cheers all
<KREYREN> cya~
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<KREYREN> [🐳|🌿] Done building image [ licheepi-4a ]
<KREYREN> [🐳|🌱] Runtime [ 58:37 min ]
<KREYREN> oh gawd
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> How long when you run if a second time?
<KREYREN> lanefu, dunno building it now will tell ya
<KREYREN> lanefu, 2:55 min according to the framework, docker finished after 182s and 3m3s643ms according to my benchmark in PS1
<KREYREN> where the benchmark is the most accurate it measures it from pressing return to exit state
* KREYREN does lot of performance-critical programming @_@
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Fortunately better than 58min
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<KREYREN> lanefu, ye but still not great for cached build
<KREYREN> i might be too spoiled by nixos though O.o
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Nixos can't easily build images for 40 different SBCs so there's some tradeoffs
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> What kind of machine are you building on?
<KREYREN> lanefu, it can they have alternative to armbian framework to generate the systems
<KREYREN> tenkawa42, 8 threads @ 3.8GHz system atm
* KREYREN usually does distributed builds on nixos that go through his build farm
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> 2:55 min for any recached build is actually fairly fast especially if its a non-native build
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Yeah? show me the list of SBCs it supports out of the box
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Exactly...
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Glanced at a few. Didn't seem like it solves for building an image with uboot baked in and having something ready out of the box
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Certainly Looks usable for folks following documentation
<KREYREN> lanefu, they want bootloader built separately and then flashed on the system via https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ARM/OLIMEX_Teres-A64 bcs the nixos armguy is creator of Tow-Boot and so he just forces everyone into a malpractice bcs "he knows better"
<KREYREN> and he considers armbian the cancer of linux lol
<KREYREN> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/241360 real pain to get anything done there atm
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Epic pissing match
<DC-IRC> <Werner> with a tiny hint of de ja vu
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Armbian uses fewer words to tell people to fuck off lol
<DC-IRC> <Werner> We don't have the necessary resources for that
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Krey you're reliably a PITA but I give you kudos for your persistence
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> This gets funnier the more I think about it
<DC-IRC> <Werner> 😅
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<KREYREN> lanefu, uwu?
<KREYREN> https://github.com/sipeed/sipeed_wiki/pull/512 submitted this in case anyone wants to take a look at it O.o
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<KREYREN> lanefu, oh thanks :D
<KREYREN> typo fixed
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> So given the feedback form that PR.
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> It seems like maybe there's some Armbian documentation that could use some updates? Perhaps shore up a thing or two on GitHub.com/armbian/documentation. Then update that PR to refer to it more?
<KREYREN> lanefu, i am trying to do that passively as i don't have the resources to rewrite the whole thing
* KREYREN would ideally just make a source code-generated docs
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Correct. One cannot rewrite the whole thing. Incremental changes move things forward even if messaging is still suboptimal
<KREYREN> i do such changes whenever i can
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> If you look in the Armbian code base you'll see comments above functions with that kind of long-term intent
<KREYREN> etc..
<KREYREN> lanefu, ye i kinda don't get the idea
<KREYREN> treating bash like it's lisp
<KREYREN> seems kinda stupid to me ngl
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Took insane solution for an existing insane codebase and move it forward
<KREYREN> meh
<KREYREN> i kinda like how guix does the SBC management
<KREYREN> Just plagued by it being GNU
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> You'd probably like this better than Armbian https://github.com/pyavitz/debian-image-builder
<KREYREN> lanefu, seems much worse
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Depends on what your needs are. Less complexity, fairly intuitive
<KREYREN> my current plan is to figure out what lisp to use and then add compatibility of it in nixos and write whole management repo where samuel doesn't annoy me about design decisions atm
<KREYREN> like i wish that more people understood the importance of abstracting and spec development, but meh the repo is too simplified and it's still shell
<KREYREN> there is a very good reason to why package managers that use shell are obsolete
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> So why do you need Armbian if your focus is on nixos?
<KREYREN> bcs nix needs a stable system for development
<KREYREN> armbian is that stable system
<KREYREN> so the process is: First develop armbian that is robust and works -> use that to develop nixos
<KREYREN> same to why you should do prototyping in freecad and then define that in functional cad such as libfive/openscad
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