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<stipa>
buy something rockchip rk3399 based, graphics work good on those socs
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<stipa>
lanefu: what, nvidia is entering server market?
<farooqkz[m]>
stipa, hmm
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> Or wait for rk3588
<Armbian-Discord>
<NeonFetch> (You should)
<lanefu>
Duh
<stipa>
seems like it's geared towards AI
<lanefu>
It is but take the cards out and you still have a monster server
<stipa>
yeah, they could also mine some bitcoin for sure
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<stipa>
i don't know about the cpus
<stipa>
i'll have to take a look into it
<stipa>
oh, amd
<stipa>
and intel
<stipa>
i was thinking it's something proprietary from nvidia, the whole hardware
<stipa>
i was confused because there's that jetson thing with beefy soc
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<lanefu>
The CPU part is ampere altra like in oracle cloud
<stipa>
i was thinking that jetson stuff is in those servers for the cpus but now i see it's only the graphics cards
<stipa>
gpus are ampere thing
<stipa>
cpus are generic intel/amd stuff
<stipa>
in those servers
<lanefu>
Damn it
<stipa>
but, you're right, ditching gpu cards out won't hurt anything if you're not mining crypto and i don't really see any uses of AI nowadays that could run on those cards
<stipa>
they're just pumping that AI hardware out of factories and no one did anything useful with it by now
<lanefu>
I'm a fool
<stipa>
is anyone using AI hardware?
<stipa>
here*
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<stipa>
lanefu: who wouldn't be a fool
<stipa>
it takes some time to adapt to nvidia at territories where they haven't been before
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<dubis>
hello any news about libwidevinecdm.so working on armbian ?
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<sunshavi>
dubis: I think it just works on 64bits. Because google deprecated 32bits. But I could be wrong
<c0rnelius>
I thought it was the other way around? use to be able to extract it from the 32bit os img, but finding the 64bit img was like impossible. BUt I also haven't looked in a long time.
<sunshavi>
c0rnelius: For me nowadays. It just works on x86-64. :(
<sunshavi>
I do not have a aarch64 machine for testing it
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<jock>
hi all
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<c0rnelius>
IgorPec: You around?
<IgorPec>
yes
<c0rnelius>
Got a packaging question. So Impish and Jammy are now using .zst instead of .xz inside of debs. Which apt on systems like Bullseye and alike have no clue how to handle.
<c0rnelius>
Any idea how to force .xz?
<IgorPec>
i didn't pay much attention to things that are new in ubuntu ... so you are saying all deb packages will be .zst ?
<c0rnelius>
yeap
<c0rnelius>
So like for kernels... If compiled on Jammy or Impish won't install on Bullseye.
<c0rnelius>
But yeah doesn't change the files inside just the compression of said deb.
<c0rnelius>
steev: whats that patching?
<steev>
dpkg (what apt uses behind the scenes)
<IgorPec>
well, we need to research this. i don't know
<IgorPec>
all this impish / jammy is wip
<c0rnelius>
So essentially we would need a custom dpkg?
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<steev>
until debian supported it, yes
<c0rnelius>
For debian and devuan and whatever that isn't impish or jammy
<c0rnelius>
shit
<IgorPec>
debian sid ?
<steev>
not applied yet
<c0rnelius>
yeah its still in experimental
<IgorPec>
i am anyway playing with an idea to regain control on all packages
<IgorPec>
currently we build only essentials
<IgorPec>
the rest is debian / ubuntu and we can't do much about
<steev>
is it even in experimental? i thought it was just in ubuntu
<c0rnelius>
There has to be away to force .xz. steev: any ideas?
<c0rnelius>
I looked it up and saw that it was there. At least listed. Not sure if it was applied.
<c0rnelius>
I tried purging the zstd package from Jammy and it tried to purge the whole base of the OS :)
<IgorPec>
hah
<IgorPec>
mehtod is defined somewhere
<c0rnelius>
exactly
<steev>
am not sure, still looking
<c0rnelius>
Kool. I just thought I would open on a dialog on this. As it seems like something kind of important.
<steev>
c0rnelius: try compressor instead of compression?
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<c0rnelius>
compressor = "xz" ?
<steev>
yeah
<c0rnelius>
ok
<steev>
otherwise... it's probably gonna be something in /etc/apt ?
<steev>
have you grepped for zstd in there on a jammy system
<c0rnelius>
in apt? no.
<steev>
i generally ignore what ubuntu does, but if they're making the debs entirely incompatible, that's nobueno
<c0rnelius>
I just use them for building stuff as they support more compilers out of the box. Other than that not a fan. Even less now.
<steev>
eh, i don't mind running "apt" in order to add more compilers
<IgorPec>
if we had more resources, we could simply build all packages on our own. the way we want ;)
<c0rnelius>
Would be nice
<steev>
but do you really *need* that?
<IgorPec>
i don't know
<steev>
in kali we only rebuild the things we need to
<IgorPec>
the same armbian
<steev>
its still some 500-1000 packages
<IgorPec>
at present state
<IgorPec>
i would assume most of the packages is trivial to build
<steev>
most are, yeah, and i mean, if you're just rebuilding them from the sources, it's extremely trivial
<steev>
if you had some ampere boxes, could always use github runners or whatever their equivalent is to a gitlab runner, to build the packages whenever theres a commit
<steev>
we have armel, armhf and arm64 buildd's set up on our ampere servers
<IgorPec>
we have one dedicated amere server
<IgorPec>
and 250+ x86 cores
<steev>
spin up some vms on it :) (that's what we do)
<buZz>
ampere*
<buZz>
oh, already clear :)
<IgorPec>
ampere server is currently offline due some hw issues
<steev>
oh no :(
<steev>
maybe when they bring it back they'll give you one of the new ones :D
<IgorPec>
don't know status, but it will be back soon
<buZz>
IgorPec: to lower effort needed to administrate a pile of lxc/kvms on that overkill arm machine you have ;)
<IgorPec>
i use cli to configure things ;)
<[TheBug]>
buZz: I feel stupid asking this again as I feel silly having not tested my self, but KVM works fairly well on ARM? that could be interesting to play with on this Rock3A with 8 GB Ram for sure if so
<c0rnelius>
steev: not a valid option apparently.
<c0rnelius>
dpkg-source: warning: --compressor=xz is not a valid option for Dpkg::Source::Package::V1
<[TheBug]>
buZz: you really don't need proxmox, just install virt-manager with libvirtd as long as it is supported it should be pretty straight forward
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<steev>
c0rnelius: weird, that was just a guess based on the patch