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<chewitt> tobetter's branch is a mess
<chewitt> I'm not sure he understands how to use git rebase
<chewitt> because his patches are never rebased to keep them at the top of the branch
<chewitt> because there are numerous reverts and such in his branch that could (should) be squashed to make things more simple
<chewitt> but I only see more being added, and no attempt to clean-up/simplify or (god forbid) upstream anything
<archetech> pm him in the forum and ask
<chewitt> I did, a while ago
<chewitt> I asked him to keep things rebased and he basically refused
<chewitt> I have a hunch git merge and "everything goes out of sight" is a defence mechanism against comments
<archetech> I see peeps githubs are goofy and not clean
<chewitt> If we (anyone trying to track HK stuff) have to page-down 20+ pages to find their hacks, we can't be arsed and that means a quieter life
<chewitt> I quite like the Android style of patch tagging
<chewitt> It's pretty obvious what's downstream, what's backported, what's submitted to a list, etc.
<chewitt> I mostly follow something similar .. else I quickly lose track of the status of things in my branch
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<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> chewitt: amen to everything you said. thank you for your rebased branches, sir, I'd be completely lost without them. shame on tobetter.
<c0rnelius> Yeah it is a real mess.
<chewitt> I have a sense that HK are still in BSP mode, whereas newer manufacturers like Khadas and Radxa are favouring upstream sources
<chewitt> FWIW .. the RPi folks have been doing some serious upstreaming
<chewitt> mostly through a network of hired hands and proxies rather than their own staff, but they are the folks calling the shots
<chewitt> if you track 5.10 it's not so obvious, but wind the clock forwards to 5.15 and there's a lot merged
<chewitt> and a lot more on lists
<c0rnelius> yeah bcm2711 is somewhat functional
<chewitt> the main missing thing is the ffmpeg changes for media, but those are still wip and stateful v4l2_m2m is not really fixed kernel-side either
<chewitt> ffmpeg works great with RPi hardware now, and we started to see what changes are needed to align with other v4l2_mem decoders
<c0rnelius> I just wish they would get rid of that silly fat partition
<chewitt> You can use u-boot and do things like other SBCs if you need to
<c0rnelius> yeah but u-boot just sits on the fat partition.
<c0rnelius> its not flashed unless I'm missing something?
<chewitt> I'll confess alternative arrangements are not something I've ever bothered to look into
<chewitt> e.g. "if it works, don't fix it"
<c0rnelius> In my playing around with it I found u-boot on the Pis to just be kind of pointless. Plus uart needs to be enabled or else it won't boot.
<c0rnelius> I know waveform over at Ubuntu uses it on the Focal release, but I believe he said they dropped it on Impish.
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<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> the rpi4b nightlies with 5.15.6 seem to be working pretty ok indeed. no patches at all for bcm2711
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> of course they're Jammy so userspace might be a bit funky at this stage
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> it's using Ubuntu's scheme, flash-kernel and the fat partition. I did not bother with custom u-boot.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> some users/reviewers are saying "sound does not work", but I've no way to test for that (mine are headless/audioless).
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> would be great if someone could take a hear and figure it out, maybe missing asound config?
<alekksander> is it possible to set nfs share (in exports) to any user connecting from certain ip?
<lanefu> Yes
<lanefu> Prior to NFS4 there was no concept of user auth for NFS
<alekksander> good. as for now i have exports saved as /something xxx.xxx.xxx.x/24(rw,no_subtree_check,sync,nohide,insecure,no_root_squash)
<alekksander> and fstab in client is: xxx.xxx.xxx.x:/something /mountpoint nfs defaults 0 0
<alekksander> but it doesn't mount automatically. i still have to go to terminal and sudo mount it manually
<c0rnelius> r​pardini: in what way? no alsamixer?
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<RoyK> damn - what happened? armbian for rpi?
<stipa> rpi rox
<Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Some1 had a weak moment
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<lanefu> LOL
<lanefu> [TheBug]: you ever get a chance to capture console logs from that image
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<c0rnelius> I don't believe it would have anything to do with a sound config. If you are `headless` and using mainline you should see both hdmi and analog appear in alsamixer and aplay -l. If using a kernel built from the foundation hub you'd only see analog as an option, unless the hdmi cable was plugged in, as it would then default to hdmi.
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Concerning RPi builds, I apologize, in my moment of weakness I said 'I don't care as long as I don't have to deal with it' when I should have gone on a rampage against substandard money grabbing cult accessories. 😂
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Ok maybe not that bad, but RPi really is the healing crystals and snake oil of the single board computer world
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I recommend them for beginners before they move to something a bit less locked down
<c0rnelius> Good for kids
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Sure
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> But the whole "I use my RPi for <real work> is a terrifyingly bad idea
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Not saying most of these board should ever see a production environment, but...
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> :-D
<c0rnelius> Although there move to Bullseye kind of through a monkey wrench into the whole Camera scheme and that libcamera or whatever its called isn't even out of beta yet which was supposed to replace the old way of going about things.
<c0rnelius> On top of that they pulled most of the userland out of the aarch64 build.
<c0rnelius> Not very forward thinking these days
<c0rnelius> threw*
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Yeah they want to keep RPi 1 support, so that makes things rough on them
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Since it was a mess of a SoC
<c0rnelius> This is why they released RaspiOS `LEGACY`
<c0rnelius> Stop people from crying
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> shrugs 10 years is long enough, although they made the IMHO poor life choice of the Pi Zero being $5 with that same SoC
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> And repeated it with the new Zero using that Pi 3 SoC. The Pi 3 dumpster fire launch is what brought me here
<c0rnelius> Pi Zero is pointless. The zero w is ok and the zero w 2 is let down because it only supports 2.4 wifi.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> If I need something that small I'm either going to use an ESP32 on my own board (I know, a luxury), or I'll grab a Radxa one
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I wish more people had gotten behind the FA NanoPi DUO
<c0rnelius> Well I've got all of them and a Radxa on the way. If it ever comes :)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I had a lot of fun with breadboard Linux
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> :-)
<c0rnelius> I got the FA NEO Plus2. Thats a nice board.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have the NEO, AIR, and both DUO's
<c0rnelius> I like FA. But the prices these days on everything is just going up and up or `out of stock`
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I also have RPi 1 (original one, backer), a couple 2's, a couple 3's, a Zero and a Zero W
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Components are gone, not much else to say
<c0rnelius> I think the NanoPC-T4 cost more now then when I bought it a few years ago.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I would assume everything does
<c0rnelius> Its just nuts
<c0rnelius> I don't have a Rpi1 and the only reason I have 2 is because someone from Devuan sent it to me.
<c0rnelius> have a* `RPI2`
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<c0rnelius> So at 3AM this morning I'm awake because as usual I can't sleep and I hear someone walk past my window, a minute later I hear one of the tenants in the house screaming and yelling. So I get a cig and walk out into the courtyard and there she is telling me “Someone crawled through my window and stole my phone! Said he needed to call the police and took my phone!” So I look up past the courtyard
<c0rnelius> wall and on my neighbors roof and I see this man and he looks at me and says “Thank God!” and I’m like hey!? You gonna give me back that fucking phone? And he’s like yes, yes, yes and I look to the left and there a like 8 cop cars in front of my house. That’s how my day started :)
<c0rnelius> The cop lady is like "We think he may be crazy?" We are gonna take him to the crisis center. I'm like, you think?
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> sheeesh
<c0rnelius> Is that in general or for a specific board?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> c0rnelius the Pi 2 (32-bit original) was by far the most stable one I've had, I moved my applications back to the 2 and left the 3's I bought to rot
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> hopefully after several years of struggling alone with their crap firmware they've cleaned it up, but I'm not interested in playing with them anymore
<c0rnelius> Yeah the 3B is horrid. The 3A+ is actually the best of them in my opinion for that line.
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<c0rnelius> Do you guys use a custom build of bluez?
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<IgorPec> no, we don't touch those packages
<IgorPec> it seems arm64 related bug only
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<c0rnelius> IgorPec Which release? Looks like the same version number being used in Focal.
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<IgorPec> c0rnelius focal yes
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<c0rnelius> IgorPec: I did a fresh debootstrap on arm64 and created an img with following package. I see no errors.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> IgorPec: that bluez package depends on Hirsute's libc6 (2.33) but is itself Focal's version. Some non-ubuntu repo added to that image?
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