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<c0rnelius> maybe something missing in the defconfig?
<c0rnelius> Not to the change subject, but or is it just me or is the BBC extremely bias or almost overly cautious?
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<TRS-80> c0rnelius: You are just now noticing this? :)
<c0rnelius> Well. I'm looking for a certain episode and I noticed they have episode 3 and 5 but for some reason they skipped 4? I want to know what the fuck happened in episode 4.
<c0rnelius> As a matter of fact their bias and cautiousness makes me want to watch it even more.
<TRS-80> Streissand effect
<c0rnelius> Very odd people on that little island.
<c0rnelius> Must have been some kind of a liable or something.
<TRS-80> c0rnelius: You try looking for a torrent of it?
<c0rnelius> Yeah
<TRS-80> no dice?
<c0rnelius> It's like no where
<TRS-80> not even newsgroups?
<c0rnelius> No where to be found. Like it never aired.
<TRS-80> How many of these are based on Armbian?:
<TRS-80> I think DietPi and OMV that I am aware of, amirite?
<c0rnelius> I like the show `Have I got News for You` and I noticed this season it aired later than usual and then seemed a bit more cautious. But... Obviously as they were kind saying yea, the BBC are being dicks and now a whole EPS is just not there.
<TRS-80> > getting information from any legacy corporate source
<c0rnelius> TRS-80: A lot of Dietpi shit is based on Armbian. They don't spin images of their own as far as I know. Take peoples work and turn it into Dietpi.
<TRS-80> c0rnelius: That's what I thought, thanks for confirmation. I think others too though. I know TwisterOS does the same, at least on ARM boards.
<c0rnelius> Thats what the scripting is really? You like Raspbian but want Dietpi scripting? Here do this!
<c0rnelius> I think back in the day there was a big shit show over this, but the original creator of Dietpi is no longer with them I believe? He got sick or something.
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<c0rnelius> Not actually sure how they manage proper kernel updates doing this, but I also don't use them. The github issues can be a useful tool though.
<c0rnelius> For example I was looking for a way to make motioneye work using python3 and some how stumbled upon an overlay concerning rk3399, which I believe was Tony Macs work. So I thought shit, why make this an overlay? Lets just over clock the board! Then steev from Kali suggested, try to put turbo mode on it, so I was like that's a good idea! Wham oh! ->
<c0rnelius> RK3399 Turbo Mode! :)
<c0rnelius> fuck the overlay
<steev> works great on the pinebook pro as well
<TRS-80> c0rnelius: Would you please submit that as a PR so that peasants such as myself may benefit from it?!
<c0rnelius> Could do, yes
<TRS-80> that would be very nice
<steev> igor asked me to but i just haven't found the time :(
<steev> so if you wanna c0rnelius, go for it :)
* TRS-80 lost his painstakingly build Classic ThinkPad during recent travel and is still distraught about it, will probably need to buy a PBP soon
<c0rnelius> steev: I still need to add the NanoPi NEO Bluetooth thingie too and have been slacking. I'll see if I can just do both submits.
<steev> just rebuild the thinkpad with the new radxa cm3
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<Phocoenidae> debian > armbian
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<c0rnelius> sorta
<c0rnelius> Its shares the same rootfs as Debian and Ubuntu. A lot of things do that.
<c0rnelius> Thats like saying devuan > armbian. Could be? But they would need to make adjustments, which is already what they do.
<c0rnelius> Switch out systemd for sysv and you have armvuan :)
<c0rnelius> Armbian last time I checked does a lot of independent packaging. They have actual repos and such. Its more of flavor of Debian and Ubuntu.
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> The current dietpi guy is nice and has helped me improve the python code for our download redirector
<c0rnelius> I knew it! Has he figured out motioneye yet?
<c0rnelius> Because in my research no one has. I think its dead beyond python2.
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Shinobi is popular these days
<[TheBug]> lanefu: your irc bnc seems to have gone rouge
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Ha yeah my PineH64 rebooted yesterday then I got mad trying to fix my ssh-agent script I use with tmux
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Sweet, can I have one for Christmass?
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I know, right?
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Okay this is the chance to expose armbian to the world.
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Be gentle
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> And warn Igor so he doesn't yell at Jeff for asking for support. 😆😉
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I wonder if he'll try running RaspberryOS on it.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I should hope not
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> It would have been far better had an RK3399 or high-end Amlogic was used for a SoM due to better software support. Brand new Rockchip part is going to cause pain points 😑
<Werner> All new SoCs causing pain in first place
<Werner> Well some more some less I guess ^^
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Yes but RPi expectations are not like this
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So the expectation of this module will be a polished drop in and go experience, which it will fail
* stipa don't really know what to tell about that nvidia thing
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> In the comments someone conflated the Cortex A numbers with the IO capabilities, for example. This level of user understanding does not lend to productive conversations about finer details of hardware support
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Especially when we are not always the most patient. 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> True, I do have such things on my YT channel. This morning I woke up and saw a whole charade of messages had been send. Some crazy guy that was losing his mind and had to let me know I guess. He did remove his messages, but I still got to read them thanks to gmail. His last message " WTF is Z Ram "
<IgorPec> selling this as a rpi drop in replacement ... looks crazy
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Yes
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> @Tonymac32 yeah see my follow-up tweets on his post
<stipa> not their problem if it'll work or not for sure
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Trying to get in front of it
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Like I said, for such a bold claim you need a mature SoC
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Read: old
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Maybe not RPi zero 2 old, but old. 😆
* stipa Rolls-Royce gets funding to develop mini nuclear reactors
<stipa> fascinating how bad things are being rebranded into "green" and the party goes on
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<Armbian-Discord> <k​prasadvnsi> I believe this is the same guy who boast about how many times he had to compile the kernel to get a feature working on RPi 😂
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Nuclear was, is, and will continue to be the only viable future with humans walking the planet
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So bad or not, there's no choice really
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Or we return to nature and reduce global population to a few hundred millions. 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Certainly when we keep putting the cloud full of babypictures and cat movies. Them things are destroying our earth.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😆
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Well, I think it likely our infrastructure requirements to feed/house everyone are significantly higher impact energy wise. The frivolous devices are a bigger problem concerning e-waste, like 98% of all the SBC's discussed on these chats/forums by volume
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Hey, I keep my boards, even the broken ones, don't point your finger at me :p
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<stipa> T​onymac32 i agree
<stipa> but there are improvements over the years for sure
<stipa> if we comapre that small nuclear plant with for example amount of solar cells that could power the same number of homes things aren't so dark for nuclear
<stipa> it's cheaper and more effective and maybe even greener that green stuff
<stipa> and it's there be it dark or noght or no wind
<stipa> night*
<stipa> day, *
<stipa> green has it's uses but it's not for sure powering milions of homes
<Armbian-Discord> <N​eonFetch> @Heasterian that's a compelling hw for box64 😄 😁
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<Armbian-Discord> <H​easterian> Ye, but GPU drivers still lack armhf libs. Untill Nvidia release them, It's still kinda useless. Unless we see box32 I won't even think about Jetsons.
<TRS-80> Behavior like Nvidia have shown towards F/LOSS (since years now) should not be rewarded with our hard earned dollars. JMHO.
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<sikkiladho> how can one move a imediate like 0x200000 into a 64-bit register? Since, mov and movz can only move 16-bit immediate?
<sikkiladho> mov x4, #0x0000
<sikkiladho> movk x4, #0x20, lsl #16
<sikkiladho> is this the right way?
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<TRS-80> SikkiLadho: You are in #armbian, not #assembly (or whatever), FYI
<TRS-80> I mean, maybe someone here knows, but...
<sikkiladho> Apologies. I will post in the relevant channel.
<TRS-80> SikkiLadho: No problem. Cheers.
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> That's so awesomely over my head
<TRS-80> I can recognise assembly when I see it, but that's about it. I mean, I get the concepts too, but anyway...
<TRS-80> It's just very manual and step by step way of doing everything, pointing to memory addresses, and a few very basic functions like add, etc.
<TRS-80> lanefu do you receive ping over bridge?
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> There are no basic functions in assembly, there's assembly in basic functions 😆
<TRS-80> I gess that's more accurate way of putting it, maybe function the wrong word, they are called opcodes or instructions or something like that I guess.
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Yeah @mentions seem to ping
<TRS-80> I did not put @ before your name, was one inserted?
<TRS-80> @lanefu or only this works (this time I did add one)?
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Nopd
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> That works
<sikkiladho> I posted in this channel, because I'm actually building a simple hypervisor(kind of), which only prints Hello World to the UART on raspberry pi 4. then the standard kernel should run without any problem. I don't know a lot of things but I believe I can learn along the way. I have built a small hypervisor-kernel which prints Hello World to UART
<sikkiladho> successfully. However, I have problems transitioning from the Hypervisor(at EL1) to the standard arm64 kernel(at el1).
<TRS-80> SikkiLadho: Sounds cool man! But we deal with almost all SBC here, except RPi. ;)
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Wouldn't you be the perfect person to maintain Armbian for the Raspberry pi 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Best way to learn I assure you.
<TRS-80> Yes anyone who is doing such things is welcome to stick around. :)
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Lol
* stipa Permission denied
<nekomancer[m]> funny filename `patch/kernel/archive/sunxi-5.15/check/0120-arm64-dts-allwinner-a64-add-nodes-necessary-for-anal.patch-DISABLED`
<TRS-80> :D
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I know X86 assembly, and Z80, and was a beginner in old ARM stuff (armel)
* TRS-80 nods respectfully at higher level wizard
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<stipa> dang, news in media have no sense anymore
<stipa> shit has hit the fan obviously
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Don't watch it. All news is created.
<stipa> there are keepers sometimes, but not today
<TRS-80> @NicoD +1
<stipa> you two should take a peek
<TRS-80> stipa: I catch just enough of it on accident to keep up roughly with what they are telling the muppets
<stipa> yeah, there's not even that anymore
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<TRS-80> Anyway, cheers, I'm off to look at RV rentals, we are going to take a week or 2 and go looking for land in the mountains. :)
<stipa> good luck
<TRS-80> thanks mate
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Have a good time.
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I wish I could go to mountains to ride my bike. But instead I'm going for a week Amsterdam. Goddamn, it's Amsterdam 🙂
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<stipa> N​icoD he left
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<stipa> i've been outside and honestly there's nothing of value
<stipa> internet is the thing
<stipa> VR and that crap soon
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> The Metaverse
<stipa> shitty lifestyle but what can you do
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> You could go outside for a walk...
<stipa> i'm anti social
<stipa> the only people that walk outside are those with dogs
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> You can do that alone. I walk alone all the time. Listening to some music, enjoying nature...
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> And I don't have a dog.
<stipa> i'm not that kind of a guy, i'm a computer addict
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I do have a trailer that I drag around like a dog to pick up the litter.
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<stipa> i don't have a bike
<stipa> everything is so lazy
<stipa> here
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I'm a computer addict too, I've started benchmarking at 8am, it's 8:50pm and I'm not done yet at all. But tomorrow I'll have a walk for an hour and I can continiue again.
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Where 'r you from?
<stipa> a bus is like in front of the building that drives me where ever i want
<stipa> i'm in Zagreb Croatia
<stipa> u?
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> In Belgium, a small town called Veurne.
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<stipa> i ssee it's near the sea
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Indeed.
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<stipa> how long do you need to uk by sea?
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> 40minutes from Calais.
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> And 40 minutes to Calais.
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<stipa> that's like maybe 2 hours max in one direction from your home
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> UK is great by train. And busses are very cheap for long trips there. But don't go with a bike, no place on the road for that.
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> It used to be quick to go, now it's gotten a lot harder since Brexit. Waitlines of km's at port and tunnel.
<stipa> yeah, brexit is shit
<stipa> what a stupid decision
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I live at a great place. Belgium has the best beer. France is 10km fom me and has best wine and cheese, then Holland is 80km and has the best weed, and Germany has the best army to counquer Belgium 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> UK also doesn't have anything best, but I had great times there.
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<stipa> i have nothing to brag about
<stipa> everything sux here
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> zoo is quite nice in zg 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Ain't Croatia a beautiful country? I've never been there, but I've seen images of nice nature and amazing parties.
<nekomancer[m]> who need army to konquer in 2021?
<stipa> IgorPec: i'm planning to go there one day
<stipa> N​icoD it's nice, there are some parties in bigger places
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Nobody, I want Belgium to disban their army. Useless as hell.
<stipa> if you're like in some smaller town it's expensive to get to the party
<stipa> N​icoD it's not wise to ban all army activities
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Here in Veurne there ain't no parties, but I heard of Zagreb parties.
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Civil services are different. But we don't need tanks and jet fighters.
<stipa> yeah, there's a place or two in Zagreb that really should be illegal
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> And military here needs to practice without ammo and say pang. There's just no money for fake bullets.
<stipa> you need army, people get angry real fast without a reason
<nekomancer[m]> <Armbian-Discord> "<N​icoD> UK also doesn't have..." <- Queen!
<stipa> if you don't have any they just come and take what's not theirs
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> That is what police is for. An army should not be used against its own civilians.
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> And we're very off topic here...
<stipa> but i'm for banning weaponisation all over the world
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<nekomancer[m]> Armbian-Discord: it's beautiful
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Don't swear like that, there are Americans here 😆
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Haha
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have only one question: Who then enforces the ban?
<stipa> finland started it
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Let's pick China, I trust them 🙂
<stipa> they don't invest in pwapon production anymore
<stipa> weapon*
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Belgium one of the biggest weapon producers in the world. Even Americans love some belgian guns.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Small population nations with relatively homogenous cultures always give people a false sense of hope in these matters
<stipa> yeah, chinese are acting like that now, just leave the people alone ...
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Humanity is not smart enough to behave logically or rationally. Or even reasonably
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> That is well said. Not in our nature.
<stipa> if you suck you'll always find someone to blame for it
<stipa> there's a reson for war
<stipa> reason*
<stipa> if you're left without a crucial resource and other country has it and it's weaker you'll go for it
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Leave a steak on the table and your dog will eat it.
<stipa> if you put two armed soldiers to keep it safe it won't happen
<stipa> people are just mean
<stipa> playing dumb all the time
<stipa> watching genocides and supporting it
<stipa> beceasue they know it'll keep them safe
<stipa> explain that to a smart kid
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Dave Mustain "And when you kill a man, you're a murderer Kill many, and you're a conqueror Kill them all... Ooh-oh you're a god!"
<stipa> it's just a mess
<stipa> i used to make sad faces but today i want to puke
<stipa> how disgusting it all is
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Well, the world is shit, people do stupid stuff, fuck up everything. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Enjoy it while it lasts, cause it's possible we're the last. And that is what I laugh about.
<stipa> at least there's something to fix
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> That's the spirit.
<stipa> yea
<stipa> but honestly, not all people are.., some people are still wild animals
<stipa> some protection is needed still but not to be geared to profit but for protection only i needed
<stipa> today is let's design a war so that we can sell our crap to some wil people in the middle of nowhere...
<stipa> and then you have to watch aftermath in media every fucking day
<stipa> fucking why
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I do think we're way better off now than 100 years ago. So there is progress.
<stipa> same shit different packaging
<stipa> if wee lose all the shit we have made progress in we'll be on the beginning of it all, learning it all over again
<stipa> and it's probably always the same
<stipa> it seems like it's in human nature to destroy it all
<stipa> and do it all over again
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<Guest41> hello
<[TheBug]> hmm
<[TheBug]> Hi
<[TheBug]> Whats going on Guest41
<Guest41> I'm fine you ?
<Guest41> I'm trying to have sound on armbian. could you help ?
<Guest41> [TheBug] are yuo a bot
<IgorPec> are you ?:)
<IgorPec> so you will know how to ask
<stipa> Guest41: what board do you have?
<Guest41> stipa MXQ PRO mini Nexbox a95x
<Guest41> Audio:     Card GXL-S905X-P212 driver: GXL-S905X-P212 Sound: ALSA v: k5.9.0-arm-64
<[TheBug]> my bet without asking you the needed questions is if you have it working you likely just need to change your output in the audio mixer
<[TheBug]> as it will default to analog
<[TheBug]> past that TV box support is handled on the forum, we don't really provide support here for TV Box as it is not an officially supported board
<[TheBug]> stipa: nice ^
<stipa> [TheBug]: yeah, i'm nice
<stipa> tanks
<stipa> Guest41: if no one in those forum threads had no success then you're out of luck
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<Guest41> thank for the information
<stipa> Guest41: np
<Guest41> the sound looks like disabled in alsamixer. pavucontrol doesn't work
<Guest41> *card
<stipa> Guest41: sound is problematic, especially on not supported hardware like tv boxes
<stipa> mayn chips that are in tv boxes are also in supported boards but there are no working drivers
<stipa> someone should reverse engineer android drivers
<stipa> Guest41: if it's not working for you out of box there is a high probability that it doesn't work
<Guest41> :-/ I'm not skilled enough
<stipa> yeah, it's probably non functional driver
<Guest41> I read somewhere I've to write a file in the /boot
<stipa> try it
<Guest41> do you tthink there is a bios in this kind of box
<stipa> no as on ibm pc
<stipa> you probably have u-boot
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<stipa> SpaceX's Falcon and Dragon both use U-Boot[13]
<Guest41> my kindle too
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<Guest41> in fact the sound is working well
<Guest41> pavucontrol is working in the x environement only
<Guest41> I didn't check well
<Guest41> thank for your support
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<c0rnelius> anyone here played around with uboot 2021.10 and a NanoPC-T4 and noticed some oddness where the board won't boot to MMC unless you hold down the button whilst having an sdcard in the slot?
<[TheBug]> hmm I think Rneese or Tonymac would be the best to ask that question to
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have not booted the T4 in a while
<c0rnelius> I'm running a test now to verify on a fresh img. But it seemed fine when I re-flashed 07 on it.
<c0rnelius> Ok. verified. There is some fuckery going on here with rockchip `atleat on the nanopc` and that version of uboot.
<c0rnelius> I wonder if it effects other rockchip boards? I don't have any others with MMCs