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<Jack22> öhh   is that a feature or a bug ?
<Jack22> teepee  when using "use" the variables from the lib are not accessible .. but the lib also doesn't use the variables from the sketch
<teepee> sounds fishy, what's the details?
<teepee> are we talking $ variables on top level of the lib?
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<Jack22> no just if your lib has   x=10;  cube(x);   and that is called via use  and x=20; is overwritten  it is still 10.  ( at least my function doesn't change)
<teepee> that's strange I'm not sure why that would have changed
<teepee> do you have a full example?
<Jack22> also the autocomplete  for lib  shows libs from other tabs save folder - which don't work in an new unsaved sheet (or different location) as it is not a full path
<teepee> and that should have worked in earlier version?
<Jack22> OH  exported 3mf now has groups ?   how does  that work?
<teepee> it probably has with include<> due to the "use last value if multiple assignments"
<teepee> and that should still happen
<Jack22> not sure about earlier versions as im normaly only use include ..  just found out that it doesn't
<teepee> Jack22: autocomplete should show $OPENSCADPATH + current script folder (when saved)
<teepee> so if you are not editing in a library path that might be a bug
<Jack22> yes it does but if i have a saved scipt open .. and make a new tab (unsaved) it shows the lib from the current script folder but can't load the lib
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<Jack22> so  3mf groups  may have something to do with lazy unions  ..
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<teepee> yeah, lazy union can produce multiple meshes and 3mf can keep those separate
<teepee> it's probably not spec compliant if they overlap
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<Jack22> awesome  .. Ü
<Jack22> that should be more advertised ( when lazy U gets productive )
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<buZz> Jack22: i read a paper by 'Wijnand van Tilburg' that defended that
<buZz> > Bored stiff: The relationship between meaninglessness, sexual sensation seeking, and promiscuous attitudes via boredom susceptibility
<buZz> well, loads more of his papers are about 'boredom' , https://www.essex.ac.uk/people/vanti05302/wijnand-van-tilburg
<Jack22> he also do something for  OSF
<buZz> does he?
<buZz> ah
<buZz> nice
<Jack22> buzz  still didn't get  what he defended?
<buZz> that boredom is a needed emotion to aid creativity
<Jack22> at least stress kills creativity  .. but what has that to do with me? did i say something related to that?
* Jack22 is confused  -  and bored
<buZz> oh
<buZz> > 11:11:03 < Jack22> that should be more advertised ( when lazy U gets productive )
<buZz> lazy = boredom, to me
<buZz> :)
<buZz> guess thats not always true
<Jack22> lazy U ↦  lazy union ↦ scad feature
<buZz> ;)
<Jack22> but for me boredom and lazyness are different.. lazy is procrastinate work or circumvent,  while boredom is a lack of work (or things you wanna do)
<buZz> dont you procrastinate because you dont want to do a thing?
<Jack22> motivation sure play a role and these are linked somehow too
<Jack22> but procrastination also had to do with doing the correct thing and being efficient
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<Jack22> lazy is minimal effort  (which is not bad)  while boredom is (bore - out) negative  and means you need to find things to do - which contradict laziness
<Jack22> The thing is that doing nothing can not make you happy  - which is a terrible insight
<buZz> i find pleasure in meditating
<Jack22> yeah me too
<Jack22> i like floating too
<othx> Jack22 linked to YouTube video "Tim Urban: Inside the mind of a master procrastinator | TED" => 1 IRC mentions
<Jack22> but my favorite is lucid dreaming  - best VR possible
<buZz> i dont mind a HTC Vive :)
<Jack22> .oO(play helicopter flight sym - how to get queasy real fast)
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<Jack22> in lucid dreams you have full body feedback and feel the Gs  - i wonder if we can tap into that anytime
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<Guest48> How do I import a 3MF file in the latest version of OpensCAD?
<teepee> import("file.3mf");
<Guest48> So, there's no menu option to do so?
<InPhase> 3mf files are a geometry. All processing in OpenSCAD is based on running the scripts written in the language, by intentional design.
<InPhase> It is a programmatic CAD system.
<InPhase> So this is not a missing feature, but a mismatch with the designed workflow.
<Guest48> Ok.  I don't have a cad file for the object.  All I have is a STL or 3MF file.
<Guest48> Newbie.....
<teepee> depends on what you want to change
<InPhase> Yeah. So that could be plainly imported like import("file.3mf"); or it could be imported in place like: difference() { import("file.3mf"); cube([5,4,3]); } to eat a cube out of one corner, or something like that.
<InPhase> tutorial?
<othx> tutorial is in need of help, if you have ideas for simple example projects that could be added, leave a note in the wiki page: https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Ideas-for-Tutorial
<InPhase> No othx...
<Guest48> I need to eliminate some 3D printer adhesion "ears" on the object.
<InPhase> othx: tutorial is The OpenSCAD tutorial is a great place to learn how to create designs in OpenSCAD, and can be found at: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_Tutorial
<othx> InPhase: Okay.
<InPhase> tutorial?
<othx> tutorial is The OpenSCAD tutorial is a great place to learn how to create designs in OpenSCAD, and can be found at: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_Tutorial
<Guest48> Thanks.  I'll read the tutorial.
<InPhase> botsnack!
<othx> YUM! This is why I love #openscad.
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<teepee> right, I guess we can delete that wiki page now :)
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<teepee> InPhase peeps[win] anyone collecting github orgs? :)
<teepee> nothing to do at this point but as I just invited someone from brl-cad to the GSoC org, I can send some more invites
<InPhase> Is that for our GSoC or a google-level GSoC org?
<InPhase> If ours, sure. If google-level, that sounds like a lot of noise, so only if there's some strong purpose. :)
<InPhase> (Where "ours" can include brl-cad people.)
<teepee> it's the "all the people ever done gsoc with brl-cad" group
<teepee> even including 1 person from kicad this year
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<Jack22> you can just drag n drop a 3mf/stl file into  scad  .. creating the  path
<Jack22> but i assume a menu item doing that would be fine too
<Jack22> oh nice works with images too (creates surface)
<InPhase> teepee: Ok. :)
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<gbruno> [github] rkail opened issue #4071 (Can't save customizer json file when path contains unicode characters on windows.). https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4071
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