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<msk[m]> any packaged japanese font?
<noocsharp> japanese is bloat just use english
<msk[m]> other way around
<GalaxyNova> ye unicode is bloat all we need is 256 characters
<msk[m]> nevermind, I installed a font manually
<msk[m]> Noto Sans JP
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<m3g> whatever happened to emacs in repo :( I suppose no wayland yet
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<GalaxyNova> How do i switch my install to use localtime instead of UTC time
<GalaxyNova> and set a timezone
<GalaxyNova> nvm
<msk[m]> Oh
<GalaxyNova> yep
<m3g> tzdata
<m3g> oop
<GalaxyNova> m3g: Do you know any way to change from UTC time to localtime?
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<testuser[m]> Hi
<acheam> Hi!
<acheam> If you ever stop saying "Hi" every day, idk what I would do
<acheam> its a nice constant
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<m3g> oh I just read lwn.net/Articles/843896
<m3g> maybe a no-x fork..
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<m3g> sway seems to have a silly default config
<noocsharp> i think the goal is to do exactly what i3 does, but in wayland
<m3g> how do you make it use bemenu instead? I started spawning processes that would idle to load 1 and never die
<m3g> Still trying to get used to wayland
<m3g> also wonder what happened to tor package, only needed to change libressl to openssl depend, builds fine
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<acheam> not exactly what i3 does
<acheam> it has some more features
<acheam> and ootb some settings are differnt I think
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<testuser[m]> where does wl-copy store it's buffer ? even if you clear it it takes up memory
<testuser[m]> oh its in /tmp
<acheam> ew
<acheam> gtk emacs? no thankyou
<acheam> oh I was scrolled up, that was in response to m3gs message
<testuser[m]> Can anyone running sway with busybox mdev replugin their keyboard
<testuser[m]> it looks like when i repeatedly tap some keys on my kb it gets disconnected and reconnected instantly and sway doesnt like it and kb input just dies until i restart sway
<m3g> I can't even connect external peripherals
<m3g> but that's on my kernel config
<m3g> lol
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<midfavila-laptop> time-zone appropriate greetings, #kisslinux
<testuser[m]> HI
<testuser[m]> i
<midfavila-laptop> iIH
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<acheam> edmrk: could you consider leaving emacs open?
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<micro_O> o/
<testuser[m]> hi
<acheam> good morning micro_O
<acheam> noocsharp: i vaguely remember you mentioning julia at some point, what are your thoughts on it?
<acheam> im considering learning it as I get more and more into scientific computing
<acheam> although im changing my mind now that I read that it is 1-indexed, not 0-indexed
<acheam> lol
<micro_O> 1 index for humans, 0 index for computers
<micro_O> added git-bug for error tracking, so now issues/features/discussions are not tied to github http://0x0.st/-Jv7.png
<acheam> nice
<acheam> wait wwhat is the difference between the remainder operator and modulus
<acheam> oh it has to do with signage
<testuser[m]> What's a signage
<testuser[m]> Oh you mean the sign of the result
<acheam> in C and Julia, % is the remainder, wheras in Python, % is modulo
<m3g> I have left emacs open but it and dependencies isn't in my computer :(
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<duplex> I'm still trying to get sway to work
<duplex> When I start sway I get yellow background and no bar or anything and no shortcuts work
<duplex> That's why log with verbose enabled
<duplex> *my
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<claudia02> duplex: Have you installed a font? Having no font available can make issues to not start a terminal and prob issues with the bar 2.
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<duplex> What is the list of fonts I can install
<duplex> Also installing a font just installing a package
<soliwilos> duplex: Is /dev/dri/card0 owned by root:video and is your user in the video group?
<claudia02> duplex: 'kiss s *font*
<claudia02> '
<rio6> oh what kiss s supports *
<duplex> It just returned fontconfig
<rio6> til
<duplex> My user is in video group and how do I check the first thing
<soliwilos> "ls -l /dev/dri"
<claudia02> duplex: oh, my bad. There is 'ttf-crosscore' in the mainrepot try that instead :p
<duplex> It video in the output
<duplex> So I'd assume yes
<duplex> That package isn't found
<claudia02> navigate to repo/extra/ttf-...
<soliwilos> It's ttf-croscore
<duplex> That worked
<duplex> Sway works now!
<claudia02> I think dylan will adress this documentation issue once his new website is live. https://github.com/kisslinux/website/issues/85
<duplex> Thanks for the help!
<claudia02> heh. Np :p
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<duplex> New issue. Foot's text is all jumbled/compressed
<soliwilos> You may need to create/edit ~/.config/foot/foot.ini
<soliwilos> It has a font setting.
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<duplex> I'll look into that in a bit
<duplex> For now how do I shutdown kiss lol
<duplex> Shutdown isn't a command so now I'm confused
<duplex> Found it nvm
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<testuser[m]> kall
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<noocsharp> i've never used julia, but from the outside it seems like a better alternative to python for scientific computing
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<duplex> does anyone have a KISS friendly office suite they can recommend
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<m3g> ok, emacs-nox built for now...
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<duplex> has anyone pacakged libreoffice for kiss?
<GalaxyNova> I think so
<duplex> it is not libreoffice however it seems to be a good alternative
<acheam> yeah thats not libreoffice
<acheam> abiword is decent though
<duplex> I might pacakge libreoffice tho
<duplex> I can't have too many deficiencies
<duplex> *it
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<duplex> I uh stand corrected
<duplex> just the core package as 59 dependancies
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<acheam> lol libreoffice is *HUGE*
<acheam> why do you think nobodies packaged it?
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<acheam> technically it only supports glibc
<acheam> also it requires java
<acheam> idk what version though
<acheam> looks like dbus can be disabled at least
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<acheam> they got it to run on Haiku though, so maybe anything is possible
<acheam> interesting libreoffice has its own gui abstraction toolkit
<acheam> would be cool to factor out
<GalaxyNova> onlyoffice is nice
<acheam> why?
<acheam> oh onlyoffice
<acheam> yeah its cool
<acheam> I thought you said openoffice
<acheam> https://archive.fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/ode_haiku would be a good thing to watch for any potential porters
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<GalaxyNova> hi ecs
<GalaxyNova> Guest780
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<ecs> hello
<GalaxyNova> Anyone set up an imap / smpt server before?
<acheam> fancy seeing you here, ecs
<acheam> GalaxyNova: yes many people here have before, what is your question?
<GalaxyNova> what's a good imap and smtp server
<acheam> opensmtpd
<omanom> You can read a little about the choices made for the mailing list here: http://dilyn.cc/blog/Server-Mail
<acheam> woah dilyn.cc?
<acheam> fancy fancy fancy
<acheam> wow thanks for the credit for being the one who pestered you once a day about this. smh
<acheam> whining is a job too
<omanom> i personally use mailinabox because i'm too lazy/incompetent to learn all the individual pieces and do it "right"
<GalaxyNova> also what do you htink about bpytop
<noocsharp> i think that you should care less about the opinions of people here and make your own judgement calls
<GalaxyNova> aha, but you see!
<GalaxyNova> I don't have any judgement calls :P
<acheam> do you like the software?
<GalaxyNova> no
<acheam> well there ya go
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