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<duplex>
how do I check what kernel modules I need to enable to sound (i.e. how do I tell what sound card I have without the driver)
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<midfavila-laptop>
is it onboard audio?
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<duplex>
yes
<midfavila-laptop>
you need the intel hda drivers almost certainly, then
<midfavila-laptop>
unless you're some weirdo who uses ac'97
<kyxor>
hi! do you guys know where the value for "$1" is defined in kiss?
<midfavila-laptop>
$1 is a special form in posix shell
<midfavila-laptop>
it's a dynamic variable that represents the first argument passed to the script
<kyxor>
I know
<midfavila-laptop>
...then why did you ask?
<kyxor>
but as all varibles they must be set somewhere
<midfavila-laptop>
uh, it's set at invocation
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<kyxor>
I need to know what sets this line in kiss DESTDIR="$pkg_dir/$1"
<midfavila-laptop>
it's not set explicitly
<midfavila-laptop>
$1 that is.
<midfavila-laptop>
so if kiss is invoked as kiss build sdl2,
<midfavila-laptop>
$1 is sdl2
<kyxor>
ok 1 sec
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<kyxor>
okay so that's not what I want then ...
<kyxor>
how does kiss know to install packages to /usr ?
<duplex>
what kernel option is intel hda
<midfavila-laptop>
look it up duplex
<midfavila-laptop>
kyxor, kiss doesn't
<midfavila-laptop>
it's determined by the configuration of packages
<duplex>
I did and I couldn't find it
<duplex>
I'll look at kerenl src
<midfavila-laptop>
so if you run ./configuration --prefix=/usr, kiss installs the package to $XDG_HOMEDIR/kiss/bin/$pkg.tar.gz
<midfavila-laptop>
or something to that effect
<midfavila-laptop>
and then afaik it's just unpacked to the root dir
<midfavila-laptop>
but I haven't looked at that particular bit in-deptch
<midfavila-laptop>
depth*
<duplex>
ok it's enabled
<duplex>
however the card does not show up in the OS
<kyxor>
it's weird, somehow DESTDIR determines where package gets installed, but how does something like "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6103/pkg/package" tell the build script that it needs to use /usr
<midfavila-laptop>
DESTDIR is passed to a makefile. kiss has nothing to do with it
<midfavila-laptop>
and the build script, when it invokes configure, or uses install, will dump things under /usr
<midfavila-laptop>
duplex have you checked lspci
<duplex>
no
<midfavila-laptop>
then you don't know if the kernel doesn't detect the card. you should always use lspci to check if hardware is detected
<midfavila-laptop>
or lsusb if you're a savage that uses an external audio interface
<duplex>
running lspci provides me with no useful info
<duplex>
ah -l
<duplex>
it shows up
<midfavila-laptop>
can you manipulate it with alsamixer?
<duplex>
ok cool this has moved to why does alsa not detect my card
<duplex>
no
<midfavila-laptop>
that's easy
<midfavila-laptop>
i bet you have an hdmi interface, right?
<kyxor>
I am trying to figure out what the hek dylan did with DESTDIR
<noocsharp>
no, $1 is not the name of the package in build strips
<noocsharp>
scripts
<noocsharp>
it's the directory to treat as root
<noocsharp>
so you install stuff to $1
<duplex>
midfavila-laptop: wdym
<midfavila-laptop>
...do you have hdmi on your machine.
<duplex>
yes
<midfavila-laptop>
then alsa is probably treating it as the default sound device
<duplex>
oh uh
<midfavila-laptop>
try checking if you can change to your regular sound card with f6
<midfavila-laptop>
should be labelled as a PCH
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<duplex>
f6 like the key?
<midfavila-laptop>
yes.
<midfavila-laptop>
from within alsamixer.
<duplex>
oh alsamixer doesn't start let me get a log
<midfavila-laptop>
odd
<midfavila-laptop>
what does aplay -l tell you?
<kyxor>
noocsharp: I am super confuzed right now
<noocsharp>
about what specifically kyxor?
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<kyxor>
how this who DESTDIR shit works
<kyxor>
whole*
<noocsharp>
DESTDIR sets the directory which will be treated as root
<noocsharp>
inside a kiss build script, you want to use $1 as DESTDIR
<kyxor>
if I do echo "$DESTDIR" in build script it prints "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6836/pkg/glslang" that makes no sense I am not installing it to "/root/.cache/kiss/proc/6836/pkg/glslang"
<kyxor>
noocsharp: nothing, I was just curious how it works, cause I know I don't fully understand it. A lot of implicit stuff is happening that I need to know
<midfavila-laptop>
looks like it's not creating the device nodes
<midfavila-laptop>
but yet it's still being detected by lspci...
<midfavila-laptop>
strange\
<noocsharp>
the source code is only a thousand lines
<midfavila-laptop>
are you using a device manager duplex? like mdev or eudev?
<duplex>
nope
<duplex>
this is pretty much a plain kiss install
<midfavila-laptop>
plain kiss uses mdev from bbox afaik
<duplex>
I can send kiss list if you want
<midfavila-laptop>
nah, that's fine
<duplex>
uhhh it uses libudev-zero
<midfavila-laptop>
...oh, right, that changed recently
<kyxor>
2k lines more precise, but again it's not about kiss it's about what kiss->configure?(cmake)->make does the whole system
<midfavila-laptop>
i don't use upstream kiss, i maintain my own base
<midfavila-laptop>
if you're not using a device manager you might have to manually populate devfs. not sure.
<duplex>
idk if libudev-zero counts as one
<midfavila-laptop>
it doesn't
<duplex>
ah
<midfavila-laptop>
it only provides udev-compatible libraries for programs like lspci and lsusb
<duplex>
ah
<GalaxyNova>
oh hi mid
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<midfavila-laptop>
hey gn
<midfavila-laptop>
i saw your sdf was verified
<midfavila-laptop>
how are you settling in?
<duplex>
does anyone have a path they can send me down to fix my audio issue?
<GalaxyNova>
it's great
<midfavila-laptop>
you need to find a way to create device nodes, duplex
<GalaxyNova>
trying to set up the email to work on the neomutt from my computer
<duplex>
alright research time
<GalaxyNova>
they only allow known hosts for smtp
<midfavila-laptop>
what do you mean, "known hosts"?
<midfavila-laptop>
afaik you only need an account that's verified
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<GalaxyNova>
midfavila-laptop: I tried setting it up and imap worked fine (i was able to access the emails) but I wasn't able to send any email
<GalaxyNova>
asked around in com and apparently it only allows known hosts
<GalaxyNova>
I am pretty unclear on that though
<midfavila-laptop>
hmm
<midfavila-laptop>
well, I just log in to sdf when I wanna check my mail
<acheam>
needing internet to read emails? big cringe
<acheam>
hmm yeah I wouldn't want to expose that on my servers
* midfavila-laptop
shrugs
<midfavila-laptop>
it has its uses
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<testuser[m]>
Hi
<necromansy>
hi
<acheam>
hi
<duplex>
hi
<duplex>
midfavila-laptop: I figured it out. I needed to enable the realtek codec in addition to intel HDA
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<kyxor>
one more question that's been bugging me, how come I get files in .cache/kiss/proc when I am not using KISS_DEBUG, and those are just empty directories I think
<kyxor>
like like is not cleaning up after itself for some reason
<acheam>
hmm weird so you are left with dirs like ~/.cache/kiss/proc/93886
<acheam>
thats odd
<acheam>
kiss version?
<kyxor>
5.5.25
<GalaxyNova>
same thing is happening to me for some reason
<GalaxyNova>
it must be a bug in kiss
<GalaxyNova>
someone make an issue
<acheam>
yeah
<testuser[m]>
Me too
<testuser[m]>
In /tmp
<testuser[m]>
but i don't get it often enougj
<acheam>
time to do some git bisect-ing
<acheam>
a little script with "git bisect run" that runs kiss 10 times and then checks for left behind dirs in a custom KISS_ROOT should find it quick
<acheam>
and would only be a few lines of shell to implement
<kyxor>
hmm i just got it to reproduce the bug once on some package, but now after trying again it stopped
<schillingklaus>
unfortunately, like most gtk3 based stuff, it uses that creep called dbus...
<claudia02>
There is a startup option for firefox, which enables verbose terminal logging, but I cant find it right now. It would tell you very clearly there if vaapi is in use or if theres a problem.
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<duplex>
I come bearing new issues. alsa recognizes my sound card (there is only one) however there is no sound (i've made sure my volume is up in alsamixer)
<duplex>
I'm testing with speaker-test
<soliwilos>
duplex: The master channel could be muted, dislayed with "MM" in alsamixer. Press 'm' to toggle mute status.
<duplex>
istg
<duplex>
that was it
<duplex>
I feel stupid now
<duplex>
thanks
<soliwilos>
No problem. :)
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<acheam>
its a confusing graphic
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<Erus_Iluvatar>
duplex: don't feel stupid, everything set to muted is ALSA's default
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<duplex>
has anyone gotten foot to have correct spacing with ttf-croscore?
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<noocsharp>
schillingklaus types are the problem: they complain about everything and attempt to solve nothing
<testuser[m]>
^
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<duplex>
anyone gotten foot to have correct spacing with ttf-croscore?
<andrey>
Hello, does somebody maintain an xwayland repo? There is an kiss-xorg repo on github. It, however, only has xorg support (duh). If not then which packages do I need to fork in order to get xwayland to work? mesa, wlroots, xorg-server ... something else?
<andrey>
Thank you. I guess that some things have changed since then, however most of those should run without major modifications.
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<claudia02>
Yeah. Luckily the buildtimes are pretty small.
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<duplex>
I heard xwayland is standalone is some capacity now. Does that mean it's not dependent on xorg anymore or just the code bases have been separated
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<GalaxyNova>
So I decided to try OpenBSD
<GalaxyNova>
and oh boy
<GalaxyNova>
Firefox pulls in dbus and a bunch of other BS
<GalaxyNova>
mfw
<duplex>
speaking of dbus
<dilyn>
mfw everyone erroneously believes that *bsds are meminalism
<duplex>
mfw all the notification managers for wayland need dbus
<dilyn>
andrey: my KISS-kde repo has xwayland support, though it has a ton of extra stuff
<dilyn>
but yeah it's mostly just mesa and xorg-server you'll have to modify
<dilyn>
and wlroots/wayland/libxkbcommon
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