#commonlisp on 2025-03-20 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

00:01 <kagevf> slime is written in elisp, so it can't be that bad :)

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00:05 <tux0r> kagevf: from slime's shithub repository: "Common Lisp 55.2% - Emacs Lisp 38.4% - Scheme 5.4%"

00:05 <tux0r> so technically, it's not

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00:25 <aeth> client/server distinction, I'm guessing

00:27 <mosin> yes

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02:57 <kagevf> 5.4% scheme?? huh ... too lazy to go look and see what that would even be haha

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03:45 <aeth> maybe it supports Scheme implementations, too?

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04:46 <mosin> Is there something like Emacs Lisp's `alist-get' generalized variable expander in Common Lisp? whereby evaluating (setf (alist-get key place) value) will either override an existing entry or create a new entry with key and value

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04:51 <beach> I don't think so. But it would be easy to create.

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06:21 <kagevf> is it like ADJOIN?

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09:48 <beach> kagevf: What makes you think it is?

09:50 <beach> kagevf: I mean, ADJOIN is a set operation without any side effect, but what was asked for is an operation with a side effect on an association list.

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09:54 <jackdaniel> mosin: alexandria (a library) has ASSOC-VALUE and (SETF ASSOC-VALUE) functions

09:54 <jackdaniel> if there were a vanilla CL operator that does that, then these would not land in the library, hence -- probably not :)

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10:00 <jackdaniel> beach: if we change the requirement from "override an existing entry" to "leave an existing entry intact", then adjoin would almost meet the stated requirement

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10:01 <jackdaniel> we only need to change the order of arguments for list to be first, and define a modify macro

10:01 <jackdaniel> (defun madjoin (list item &rest args) (apply #'adjoin item list :key #'car args))

10:01 <jackdaniel> (define-modify-macro madjoin-f (&rest args) madjoin)

10:01 <jackdaniel> so generally I find kagevf intuition almost on mark :)

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10:01 <jackdaniel> time for a coffee break

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10:50 <Devon> Has anyone used the LLDB Scripting Bridge?

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15:03 <kagevf> beach: I overlooked the part about "override an existing entry" like jackdaniel mentioned

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