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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> His shirt fits at least
<archetech> yep we are getting something so call on the one who can save
<archetech> yep we are all getting something so call on the one who can save
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<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> Sup Archetech
<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> I felt a disturbance in the force, lots of old guys arguing in here.
* archetech strokes his fake grey beard
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> How's mainline life on rk3588
<KREYREN_> why even bother with RK3588
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Why don't you go to the AerithForge IRC channel and talk about why not
<archetech> panthor! coming soon
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Sweet
<archetech> funny how in 3 yrs ive been here tony and lane have wit
<archetech> rest are nrain dead like cOrn
<archetech> brain*
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> C0rnellious has some zingers on occasion
<archetech> had our diffs still rockin ;)
<archetech> im rockin so hard I had to put a 5" fan over my receiver lol
<archetech> over the mosfets
<archetech> nancy wilson s nicks L rondstat want to date me
<archetech> all at once
<archetech> had to pass was 30 yrs ago
<archetech> meg ryan was me girl
<archetech> after jody F dumped me cuz I wouldnt join mensa
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Lot of tough decisions back then
<archetech> I told meg johns a dork she found out
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Lol
<archetech> voodoo chile slight return jimmy was from mars
<archetech> who composes music like that besides beetovan
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Yeah that's a good one
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Red House is one of my Jimi favs
<archetech> ill meet ya on the next one and dont be late
<archetech> yep RH live fr san diego
<archetech> ill play that now in the west album
<archetech> best blues perf ive ever heard EVER
<archetech> I was 14 first heard it changed me forever
<archetech> 1975
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<archetech> she didnt say a damn thing about leavin ...but I still got my guitar
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<KREYREN_> lanefu, bcs AerithForge is too cool for an IRC
<KREYREN_> also very WIP
<KREYREN_> u.u
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<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Right you can setup a matrix server
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<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Aren't we already in the Matrix?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Aren't we already in the (better yet) ... (insert next new creation here)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> @lanefu did you ever watch the original Tron?
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Absolutely
<DC-IRC> <lanefu> Speaking of Tron https://youtu.be/Dc71_EaigZc?feature=shared
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> whats that
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> That's what got me interested in some of my synth music. I have a few of my old synths still
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I was a drummer mostly though
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> guyyss
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> should i start using linux as my main os?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> You should see the interfaces to hook these things up to linux... still terrible to this day....
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> The software is next to non-existant
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i dont get what ur trying to say
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Use what you feel comfortable with.
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> hmmmm
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ...
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I was talking to Lane
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> oh
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> but does wine run windows apps at a decent speed?
<jspiros> speed isn't the issue with wine, generally
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> cuz i do need widnows apps
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> oh
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> agreed... its usually compatibility
<jspiros> the main issue that can come up is programs not working at all, or having weird bugs with wine
<jspiros> but generally when things /do/ run well (and you can check the appdb to confirm that others have had success with a particular program), they run at native speed
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> if it runs them it runs them well
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> hmmm... waht about gaming
<jspiros> same deal
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> games are very hit and miss
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> okayy
<jspiros> if it runs well, speed is rarely a concern
<jspiros> but whether it runs well depends
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> okayyy
<jspiros> Valve has done a good job sponsoring a lot of work in that area, too, with Proton
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> There is a website out there that documents people's success with it
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> jspiros: do you remember/know that website by chance?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Its a Wine gaming centric site
<jspiros> I know the wine appdb and the proton appdb
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> i think winehq.org keeps one right?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> yeah thats one I remembered... I never used proton so I didn't know about that one
<jspiros> if you are using Steam and really lazy you can see what the SteamDeck compatibility is for a given game on Steam, since SteamDeck is Linux-based, if it runs on SteamDeck well, might run fine on other Linux machines too
<jspiros> but yeah, those dbs are the place to look
<jspiros> outside of Steam, Lutris is a nice interface for setting up other games with Proton and/or Wine
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> okay
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> il try
<jspiros> for a beginner it's easier than trying to use wine directly, but it uses wine underneath
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> look up winetricks too
<jspiros> Lutris should handle all the winetricks stuff needed
<jspiros> as does Steam's Proton integration
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Oh ok good
<jspiros> Lutris basically uses things kinda like build scripts for different games/apps, contributed/maintained by the community, for easy installation of things
<jspiros> and creates dedicated wine environments for each thing, so different wine/proton versions can be used for maximum compatibility
<jspiros> similar to how Steam does it, but Lutris is open source and not a game store
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yeah that is helpful...
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> pop os has lutris preinstalled
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> nice
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> have any of u bought linux laptops?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> No. I'm an Apple user
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> which macbook
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> pro
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> yeah MBP ARM
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> oh
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Have a x86 one too but glad they went to arm
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> mac does have better battery compared to windows
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> like wayyyy better
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yeah.. I have a HP Omen too and it has terrible battery life ( but its a I7 with NVIDIA gaming laptop)
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I own 0 desktops
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i mean windows does win the gaming aspect
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> cuz who games on mac?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I do... I have about 5-10 I play daily on here
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ...
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> linux windows or mac?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> mac
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> windows
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Mostly using Steam
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> steam is on mac?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yep
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> never knew
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok but what if u considerd the price? would u pick windows/linux over it?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> no
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I've used OS X since very early on and am very happy
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<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-25797110
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> wait.. os x?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> That's Apple's operating system
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> *googles how old os x is*
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> 21 years
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> yeah...
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> but u still useit?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i dont think so
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Yes.. I started using Unix in 1979... I still use it too
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> It has changed dramaticly though
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> thats basicly like using ms-dos now
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Look at Linux now and even in 1995 and they are nothing really alike
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> this?
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> Cheers all for now.. time to see what the schedule holds
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> good ole suse linux
<DC-IRC> <tenkawa42> I hated that distro
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> WHY IS IT NAMED SUSE
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> why? why?why?
<DC-IRC> <Werner> Maybe it was related to the German term _Heulsuse_ 😂
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> like remove the e and it becomes a meme
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> its a German acronym
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> @shivasiddharth I believe you will love this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLdexZlVkAY
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<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> @viraniac i used ur patch and this is what i got :
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> the patch was for bookworm minimal image
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> oh
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> u didint tell that
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> but does it need to be minimal?
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> just search in the code, where its trying to disable smartd.service. Add || true at the end
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> Nextcloud will anyway modify your system pretty heavily to make it secure, By going with minimal image, I reduced the amount of sofwares its has to tweak
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> and where do i do that?
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> do git grep -n smartd.service, the command will give you the answer
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> do `git grep -n smartd.service`, the command will give you the answer
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> where did you ran it?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> thats what it got
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> is it where you cloned the nextcloudpi repository?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> yes
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> And did you clone it or simply downloaded the compressed file from git?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i cloned it
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> using git clone
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> thats not that command is telling you
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ?
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> Thats certainly is not consistent with what that error is telling me
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i did git clone
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> and then used your patch
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> and the ran install.sh
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> if you did git clone and if you are inside nextcloudpi directory, then git grep will work
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> hmm
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i did git clone and ran it inside the nextcloudi folder
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> oh wait
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i didnt run git grep -n smartd.service in the nextcloudpi folder
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> thats why
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> let me make you. an offer, I can get on a zoom call and assist you in setting it up. You have to pay $50 per hour (discounted rate only for you) to me
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> what
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> it says nothing
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> let me make you an offer, I can get on a zoom call and assist you in setting it up. You have to pay $50 per hour (discounted rate only for you) to me
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i cant so bye
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> let me make you an offer, I can get on a zoom call and assist you in setting it up. You have to pay $50 per hour (discounted rate only for you) to me
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> try removing .service
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> @shivasiddharth You really are always in too much hurry, don't you? BTW whats your goal for setting this up? You are setting it up only to get it installed or you are doing it to learn about linux and cloud?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> im trying to turn this into our own cloud to store photos
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> cuz we have wayyyy to many
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<DC-IRC> <viraniac> why did you went with Opi Zero instead of a raspberry pi?
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> As you are too new to this scene, a raspberry pi would have been better for you as those scripts are written wit PiOS in mind
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> And it seems you are not interested in learning about basic linux commands. Having even beginner level knowledge of basic linux commands would have helped you in figuring out the issue yourself. Also it would have made it possible for us to guide you easier.
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> Most of the time you are posting just summary errors and asking for help with some third party scripts which would require us to go through them ourselves as we didn't developed the same.
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> Please understand that most of the people here have jobs. And after that whatever free time they get they try to contribute to armbian.
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> Sent rest of the stuff as PM, asked him to go to nextcloud forum for help
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<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> cuz they were nowhere to find
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> i mean why would i buy a orange pi zero if raspberry pis exist?
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<DC-IRC> <viraniac> The board you have chosen only has power to barely run it. It won't be able to stand the load once you start uploading all your photos to it
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok what about an aml tv box?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> amlogic s905w
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> and i could use the nextcloudpi images right?
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> wait il check
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> As I said in PM, running a cloud service requires a lot of knowledge, that you don't pocesses. You would have seen that a lot of time public cloud services go down. Discord itself was down yesterday. These companies have thousands of people working for them and those people with years of experience also becomes clueless to solve the issue
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> You don't have any knowledge about linux, first learn about it. I shared the link to the nextcloud forum with you
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> oookayyy
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> When you are able to understand and and suggest fix to atleast one of the issues posted there, then you can consider yourself ready to set this up yourself
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> When you are able to understand and suggest fix to atleast one of the issues posted there, then you can consider yourself ready to set this up yourself
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> u sound very wise
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> I shared the link to the nextcloud forum with you. When you are able to understand and suggest fix to atleast one of the issues posted there, then you can consider yourself ready to set this up yourself
<DC-IRC> <viraniac> If you keep trying to do this now, you will only end up loosing all the photos that you are trying to preserve
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> ok
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<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> CDE, if you used Solaris, very similar to they desktop, way before KDE
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> trying to learn linux at 9 pm
<DC-IRC> <shivasiddharth> lol
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> As a member of openSUSE -- SuSE Gesellschaft für Software und System Entwicklung mbH, Software and System Deployment, they started patching bugs for Slackware, after while figure it was just best to release their own version. 4.2, The early version of SuSE looked like you were install slackware, but they started using Red Hat Package Management ( RPM ) install of pkgtool, which <clipped message>
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> I think much later.
<DC-IRC> <terrorpup> Anyway, I've been using SuSE since 5.3, because a member in 2008.
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<KREYREN_> # array, readonly, global, for future reference, "exported" to shutup shellcheck
<KREYREN_> lets do something stupid, and tell shellcheck to shutup when it complains about it
<KREYREN_> yaaaahhhhh
<KREYREN_> this source code is a war crime srsly
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