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<archetech> derp LZ III
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<DC-IRC> <bret> well, didn't expect to see that here whilst catching up with the scrollback but that's a pleasant surprise
<DC-IRC> <bret> People say good things about the microcenter cards but sadly they haven't opened up in Sweden so 😄
<DC-IRC> <bret> People say good things about the microcenter cards but sadly they haven't opened up in Sweden so I can't test them easily 😄
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<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> @bret I'm in their home office town
<DC-IRC> <bret> Do you fancy shipping me some?! 😄
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<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> haa.. the shipping costs and times means you'd get them in a few months at about 3-4x the costs
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> You aren't in the states are you?
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<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Looks like amazon sells microcenter branded micro sd cards if you want to test them
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<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> Lol but why
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<[TheBug]> They are okay, you get what you pay for, out of 3 3x64GB packs I have had 2 die, so 2/9 failure rate but others have been just fine, at least in testing in normal use, not sure long term.
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> whats worse/better.... microcenter brand or inland (their house brand) hehehe
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<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Hmm.. It looks like they brand them the same
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> (for microsd's)
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> for other media its sep..
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> I think the only thing inland branded is the ssds
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> The usb and sd / micro cards are microcenter branded
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<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> possibly.. they also have other various non-storage parts
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> They do have these guys
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> a few different types
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Its a ssd but it "is" usb attached
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> brb need a reboot
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> It might be good because its m.2 but the inland sata drives are really slow
<nekomancer[m]> sandisk with gray writtes about 10 MB/s max. sandisk with gold writes on 40 MB/s.
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<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Yeah... generic media..
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> yeah the inland sata drives suck
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> most generic drives do
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> I think its just rebranded drives
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> The inland m.2 drives are not that bad mine still works since 2019
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> durability != performance..
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> no it does not but its faster than an m.2 in the pbp
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> I have plenty of 5+ year old drives that are slow but they are durable as rocks
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> unlikely
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> if so you are using a very bad m.2
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> I am using inland m.2
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Internal
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Yeah those are not very good
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> well I use samsung drive now
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Its not that bad someone tested out a sandisk nvme in pbp and its slower
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> I use a WD Black in my PBP and it flies
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> What are the speeds?
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> couple hundred mbs
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> I'd have to boot it up to get exact
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Then that is fast
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> I am very happy with it
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Don't know how the smaller m.2 non nvme inland drives are but the full size nvme inland works fine and is way better than the inland sata drives
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Windows on the sata drive was as bad as an hdd
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> But as storage its not that bad
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> yikes.///
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> faster than I thought on y pbp
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> er my
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> 495.92mb/sec
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Using kdiskmark the inland nvme drive gets over 1000
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> let me install that and run it
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Its crystal disk mark but on linux
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> what pkg is that in?
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Or is it a standalone download?
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> kdiskmark is in the repos
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> hmmm.. let me refresh apt
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Nevermind its in ppa on ubuntu
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Ahhh
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<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Ok thanks
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> If you ever used crystal disk mark on windows kdiskmark is almost the same thing
<DC-IRC> <bret> Nope, Sweden heh - so not really worth it :p
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> heheh
<DC-IRC> <byron> When building armbian, is there an easy way to exclude packages from being installed? I see the PACKAGE_LIST_ADDITIONAL option to add packages and I thought I remembered a similar option to exclude them, but I can't find it now.
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> @Jason123 are you using the default settings for the run?
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> Yep default settings
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Oops... Need to charge up.. I did get one partial run in .. It was running around 860read/781write seq 1m with only battery before it ran out of power..
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> it seems to like random though (which is good)
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> Time to charge it up
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> inland 500gb internal nvme drive installed in my ryzen system
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> yeah the computer's controller helps too
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> if I put it in my omen it would run a lot better lol
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> yep the nvme in the pbp is slower anyway
<DC-IRC> <Jason123> At least its faster than emmc but I just have emmc in mine since its much easier to deal with with power and whatever
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<DC-IRC> <BreakThrough> I'll lecture 15 people on how to earn $50,000 USDT from crypto market, But i'll take 10% cut. Interested people should send message
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<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> What machine can do PCIe 3.0 x4 that isn't a full on PC
<DC-IRC> <Tonymac32> Or PCIe 4 😆
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> which spec is the rockpro64's PCIe x4?
<DC-IRC> <Tenkawa> is it 3.0?