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<Armbian-Discord>
<MelonKami> hw?
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<MelonKami> hardware?
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<Tenkawa> @MelonKami how do you conclude its incompatible with arm?
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<Jason123> How would I get the results link for the benchmark tool? It goes away before I get the link
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<MelonKami> I assumed it, since I couldn't find an ARM version. But I was able to build the source code, and get it running on my Rock
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<Tenkawa> Ok good..
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<Tenkawa> I was testing that method here and was going to ask you if you had tried it
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<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> Hi there, coming here after hours of despair in trying to get this to work:
<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> - I have an OrangePiZero2
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<IgorPec> if this is broken, we can't break it more if we use actual main build system
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<IgorPec> stable / orangepizero2 / 23.02.2 and run workflow
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<Werner> Triggered. Let's ssee
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<IgorPec> with assumption that build system produces working images 🙂
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<Werner> Was actually going to build current by myself atm 😄
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> ok, well, this is the way to build images for /download ... they are currently copied manually. so it builds them to some buffer
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<IgorPec> but it would be nice that maintainer could replace images in such cases
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<Werner> So the built images need to be moved manually?
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> at this stage, yes
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<IgorPec> this is probably also good.
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<Werner> Yeah....but if I want to test those now how to get them 😛
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<IgorPec> ahaa, that part is not done yet
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<IgorPec> i can't upload them to github due to size
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<IgorPec> i'll copy it manually not
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<Werner> Ah...I don't think so, Tim
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<IgorPec> aha, i see
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<Werner> Tested zero2 with current kernel. No WiFi either which I did not really expect anyways. Probably no benefit whatsoever over using edge with 6.2.y
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<Werner> At least it boots and ethernet is working
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<IgorPec> yes, that's good enough
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<IgorPec> i'll just fix those links
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<nekomancer[m]>
what should be set to KERNEL_ONLY= to use BUILD_ONLY=rootfs?
<nekomancer[m]>
it builds kernel and u-boot anyway
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<Armbian-Discord>
<amazingfate> What about ./compile.sh rootfs
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Runo18> Hi all, I´m trying to put Armbian in my Dreambox One Ultra HD, with the image Armbian_23.02.0-trunk_Aml-dreambox_sid_edge_6.2.0_xfce_desktop.img.gz. I burn it to a SD card, and boot...It starts well, but in second text line I got: "Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... (initramfs)" and nothing happens. I can write with USB keyboard, I can write again this order "/scripts/init-premount" and the answer is Permission
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denied. If I write "sh /scripts/init-premount", the answer is (initramfs) and stays there....Any help please?
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<nekomancer[m]>
<Armbian-Discord> "<amazingfate> What about ./..." <- `[🐳|💥] error! [ Param 'RELEASE' is not set but needs to be set for rootfs CLI. ]`
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<IgorPec> unsupported hardware -> forum tvboxes / search
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<Armbian-Discord>
<meteyou> with this one, the orangepi zero2 has wifi. i'm only too dumb to chech the difference between the orangepi kernel patches and the original armbian one...
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<IgorPec> their "mainline" got stuck at around 5.16.y
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<IgorPec> in another words - adjusting wifi to work on 6.1.y can lead into two weeks of work
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<IgorPec> or more. i lost few hours trying and i am done
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<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> ^ this image has everything working and is lightweight.... too bad it took me a few hours to find this link again.
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<jugenmu> Just for my sanity, what's the difference between the distro shared on the official orange-pi website vs. the one from Armbian? This is not obvious for me
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<Armbian-Discord>
<meteyou> as deep as i can see, they use a different kernel + patches. but the build workflow is a "fork" of armbian.
<Armbian-Discord>
<meteyou> the image orangepi-orangepi_zero2.img.xz is a clean image from there workflow. the upper one armbian-ornagepi_zero2.img.xz is an armbian build.
<Armbian-Discord>
<meteyou> all images are bullseye/cli/minimal
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<IgorPec> zero2 mainline was fixed yesterday. it was not booting
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<IgorPec> legacy is in the work ... @jugenmu main diff is that orangepi provides static image while armbian is a distribution that tries to provide same experience across different hardware. with possibility to remake this image
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<IgorPec> as orangepizero2 support is not finished and there is nothing we can do, problems remain
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> development costs real money and you want this for free.
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<jugenmu> ah ok - that does makes sense!
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<jugenmu> as orangepizero2 support is not finished
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<jugenmu> => you mean by the main company?
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<meteyou> foss can be really expansive for the maintainers! i know it from my project, i need much less hardware for testing than armbian
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> well, its complicated to explain
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<jugenmu> One confusing part for me was that the armbian website provides recommended builds for specific hardware (https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero-2/) and even ranks better on Google than the official Orange Pi page
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<jugenmu> So... I assumed that it was stable and working out of the box. A small idea (if that's easy to change): on the download page, you could add a disclaimer saying that these version may not be stable or fully working but attempt at keeping "the same experience across hardware" which is a difficult problem. If you want a stable version and don't care about having it work across hardware, visit your hardware official
<Armbian-Discord>
website.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> board vendor does not have capacity and mindset to provide software support
<Armbian-Discord>
<meteyou> there is already a warning on the download page on armbian.com
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and business is oriented that they flood developers community with hw and users also blackmail developers
<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> wow that's not what I'm understanding at all from this disclaimer 😅
<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> But thanks
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<IgorPec> stable images is just LOL
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> allwinner does not care so its left up to the companies that makes the boards or people who buy the boards
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if we add a disclaimer that thos images are unstable, that would mean all other distros are ... while almost no other distros not even tests what they ship.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this is best what you can get ...
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<jugenmu> I'm just providing feedback - you don't need to apply it nor to accept it. I know extremely little about linux, distributions, so this is the best I can do to help.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> for a board like the orange pi zero the orange pi supplied image is outdated
<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> well, it works better for me than anything else I could find so I'll take it
<Armbian-Discord>
<EfeCTN> They never update their images
<Armbian-Discord>
<EfeCTN> Especially for old boards
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<Jason123> they had to update the image for the zero 2 since its jammy
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> but yeah they don't update the images much
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<meteyou> i would love it, when orangepi (and also other companies) would make PRs to armbian tosupport there hardware/SBCs. AND also update these to have support for some years! but its typical "china" to just release something and add a piece of software which is "just running" and never update something...
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> yeah if they could work with armbian team to release something then that would be cool but right now they just create an image of debian or ubuntu and it works so its fine
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<jugenmu> Their board is also much cheaper than Rpi - they gotta be saving the money somewhere
<Armbian-Discord>
<jugenmu> Good gotcha for next time I buy a board lol
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> the orange pi 4 and 5 are higher priced
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> but right now the prices of raspberry pi are higher but normal price if you compare to the pi zero then the raspberry pi is cheaper
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tomek51> Hello
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<Tomek51> I need a cheap but stable Linux system..
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<Tomek51> I want a box with rk3318 or one with s905x2-s905x3.. What is better supported here and where is armbian more stable on?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tomek51> A H96 Max with rk3318 4 GB ram or a X96 max plus with 4 GB ram.. I'm considering buying one of the two.. I'll be using it for klipper so both would probably be overpowered but it can't hurt for the future
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tomek51> Thank you
<IgorPec>
forum tv boxes
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> Is there a fix for the wrong temperature on the orange pi zero lts boards? was looking on the forum and looks like orange pi fixed it but on armbian still the same issue
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Sabotender> hmm what was causing it to overheat? I ordered the Zero 2 so that makes me wonder if overheating is also a problem there. I sort of suspected something like this might happen, so, I ordered several cooling fans to place inside the chassis.
<Armbian-Discord>
<Sabotender> I mentioned this before, that I ordered this for specific use of a PiHole, and some reviews did warn that it will get warm during use.
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<kreyren2>
<Armbian-Discord> "<Jason123> Is there a fix for..." <- Do you know how they fixed it
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> there might have been some code on github but don't know if it fixes anything
<Sabotender>
I was just saying this, because the brief time I used an Armbian image for my Odroid, it reduced the clock to (I assume) better control ambient temperature, by default
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> its an issue with the lts version but its not that it lowers the clock for temperature since the temperature reading is just broken
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<Sabotender>
huh. It's reporting inaccurate temperature? Well that would be a critical issue
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Which Odroid?
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