#armbian on 2022-01-21 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:28 <fysicsluvr> "IPv6 is the future"

00:28 <fysicsluvr> >can't get a VPS with multiple /48s on the cheap, *still*

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07:18 <Armbian-Discord> <Werner> Good morning

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08:06 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> 2nd coffee morning 😉

08:06 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> how are your nights?

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08:47 <Armbian-Discord> <Werner> Actually pretty decent

08:48 <Armbian-Discord> <Werner> Could be much worse

09:17 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> yeah. this is - as i am hearing from friends - pretty random

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11:32 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> Could someone help me understand a few things. Not super knowledgeable about Linux kernel stuffs

11:32 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> So I have the odroid n2+, and the armbian distro comes with the mainline kernel

11:32 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> Does this kernel have specific patches to it?

11:33 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> What is meson64?

11:34 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> I installed wireguard last night with a script, and the script downloaded a kernel from the debian repos - linux-image-rt-arm64 I guess this one has the PREEMPT_RT flag enabled

11:34 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> Is it safe to use the odroid with this kernel?

11:34 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> Or should I uninstall this package?

11:37 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> start here https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_FAQ/ first

11:38 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> generic kernels will not exactly damanage your board, but they will not work or work a lot poorer

11:38 <ermine[m]> customers!

11:38 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> whete to send a bill to ? 🙂

11:43 <ermine[m]> armbian devs, of course, everyone wants to run kodi images on their radxa SBCs

11:46 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> and what is that armbian problem?

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11:48 <ermine[m]> still can't run armbian on my bag of potatoes, so sad

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11:48 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> again not a problem of armbian

11:49 <ermine[m]> no, no, that's a joke

11:49 <ermine[m]> I mean literal potatoes

11:49 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> there is a board called potato 😉

11:49 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> and where armbian works perfectly fine

11:49 <Werner> Indeed

11:50 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> bag of potatoes = Armbian cluster with Libre Computer La Potato

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12:10 <ermine[m]> oh, wow, hetzner is upping prices

12:11 <Werner> Hopefully they do not do for existing contracts...

12:11 <ermine[m]> well, https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/176802/hetzner-price-increase-for-servers-from-the-server-auction

12:11 <Werner> I know it is for the auction servers

12:20 <Armbian-Discord> <Daddy> I see, so compiling my own kernel is the way to go

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12:30 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> This means our operating costs will also go up

12:30 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> we are burning lots of power

12:32 <ermine[m]> heh, you could move the servers and all to the US, I guess, or Russia (don't they have cheap power?)

12:32 <ermine[m]> but if there's gonna be war, I don't even know at that point...

12:34 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> we have servers all over the world already, but those are mainly donated

12:35 <Werner> And there it is. Got the mail for price increase...13 bucks more... -.-

12:36 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> large portion of build farm, which is sucking around 2kw at peak, is attached to my personal bill 😉

12:36 <ermine[m]> Werner: for me, that's like an extra $20+, yikes, I love the euro exchange rate... not

12:38 <Werner> That is an increase of close to 50%...

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12:51 <Werner> Funny. I could switch to a server that costs less and offers more lol

12:53 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> more what? BW or cpu power?

12:55 <ermine[m]> same applies to leaseweb, I hear

12:55 <ermine[m]> better CPU and better hardware, probably

12:55 <ermine[m]> most hetzner dedis have 1gbit unless it's an athlon 64 one

12:55 <Werner> More CPU and RAM

12:56 <ermine[m]> hetzner's network is trash for me lol, OVH is ok for me

12:56 <ermine[m]> I get 64KB/s with hetzner

12:56 <Werner> Most of the time I get the full 1000mbit up and down

12:57 <ermine[m]> of course, everyone in Europe raves on and on about hetzner...

12:58 <ermine[m]> I'd get a dedi locally/in LA, but I ain't paying $50+ USD/month

12:58 <Werner> Guess I cancel the box then once the increased price hits in March

12:58 <Werner> Simply no longer worth

12:59 <ermine[m]> mmm, imagine if scaleway brings back their ARM dedis due to power costs

12:59 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> what you are using it for @werner ?

12:59 <ermine[m]> but no, of course not, you need an oversold shitty VPS

13:00 <Werner> In terms of Armbian it hosts mirror.armbian.de.

13:00 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> ahaa

13:00 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> i thought that was at your home

13:00 <Werner> Haha I wish I had dedicated gigabit at home

13:00 <ermine[m]> oh, I have 100/40mbit in AU, though...

13:01 <ermine[m]> but yes, ask aarnet for a mirror

13:01 <Werner> and even if I had with the insane increase of electricity costs that not worth doing either

13:01 <ermine[m]> but I have had it where their rsync mirror just stopped working at one point

13:02 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> sure. well, i have many machines .. if if would be just for hosting files, 10W is enough

13:03 <Werner> yeah any sbc with a harddrive connected to it can do that

13:03 <ermine[m]> now, why can't my toaster do it? weird

13:03 <Werner> because its proprietary :)

13:04 <ermine[m]> gotta put armbian on bread first

13:05 <ermine[m]> you could with paper, though, with paperbak

13:05 <Werner> Already did that :P https://zuckerbude.org/making-my-favorite-loaf-of-bread/bread_arm.jpg

13:09 <ermine[m]> if that was an x86 loaf, it would require a very powerful oven and be a nightmare to consume

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14:02 <nekomancer[m]> ermine: are you from #fidorus?

14:02 <ermine[m]> no

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14:33 <chewitt> @IgorPec because I know y'all love Amlogic TV boxes :)

14:33 <chewitt> https://github.com/chewitt/linux/commit/1fbdab91b40f56691f97279cd2df7e9370b19033

14:33 <chewitt> fixes the lockups seen with vendor u-boot

14:34 <chewitt> (on Beelink devices)

14:34 <chewitt> I'll have a more general hack for it in my tree that applies to meson-g12-common.dtsi so it's applied everywhere

14:34 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> i love them 😉

14:35 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> @chewitt we upgraded u-boot to 2022.01 on meson64 yesterday

14:36 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> seems khadas board has reboot issue https://github.com/armbian/build/actions/runs/1728813394

14:36 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> any clues where to look?

14:36 <chewitt> nice, any drama?

14:37 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> no drama

14:37 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> i am running simple upgrade + update u-boot + ping check ... else power cycle

14:38 <chewitt> no ideas .. I'll add a VIM3 back into my test cycle and see if I see the same

14:39 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> K5.15.y

14:39 <chewitt> meh, so old ;)

14:39 <chewitt> 5.16.2 is the new shiny!

14:40 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> well, we try to come up with a LTS release

14:40 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> 5.16.y will be "on the edge"

15:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tonymac32> Amlogic boards = headache due to firmwares. Amlogic boards with vendors that try to be helpful with vendor U-boot in eMMC/spi = 7th level of hell.

15:08 <Armbian-Discord> <Tonymac32> 😆

15:09 <Armbian-Discord> <Tonymac32> At least TV boxes are supposed to have preinstalled stuff. I don't want an SBC having anything on it out of the box unless it is actively maintained and not some crusty garbage that won't work with a modern kernel

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16:43 <ermine[m]> What!? Kernel 3.x.x isn't good enough now?

17:17 <[TheBug]> and here I though 2.6.x was still safe.. ;)

17:18 <[TheBug]> thought*

18:05 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> IOS is full of 😉

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19:05 <nekomancer[m]> <[TheBug]> "and here I though 2.6.x was..." <- Centos6 out of support

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20:03 <Armbian-Discord> <adeepv> any errors on console?

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20:19 <Armbian-Discord> <IgorPec> don't have console attached at all boards 😦

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23:01 <Armbian-Discord> <Tonymac32> I guess the CH32V307 8 uart to USB or ETH chip might be handy after all 😄

23:10 <PPA> https://linuxgizmos.com/55-and-up-orange-pi-4-lts-drops-40-pin-gpio-adds-3g-ram-option/

23:15 <chris64> Hi everyone, I'm trying to build armbian for rockpi s and struggle a bit with the Docker-based build environment. Any of the three approaches fails with E: Unable to locate package zlib1g:i386. Do I have to get into the Docker container first to run ./compile.sh? If yes, which image do I need to run?

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23:43 <Armbian-Discord> <MicroLinux (Salva)> @Tonymac32 did they fix his pci flaw????

23:47 <Armbian-Discord> <Tonymac32> rofl OPi 4? not that I'm aware of, if they haven't changed the pinout of that connector