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<[TheBug]> hmm
<[TheBug]> I get multi-color screen, but it just hangs there from what I can see
<[TheBug]> I will let it it for a few
<[TheBug]> I had grabbed Armbian_22.02.0-trunk.0006_Rpi4b_jammy_edge_5.15.13_xfce_desktop.img.xz
<[TheBug]> maybe the non-desktop version works?
<[TheBug]> for sure froze on multi-color screen and won't move on
<lanefu> womp
<[TheBug]> so at least that image wont boot
<[TheBug]> thats on RPi 3B v1.2
<[TheBug]> i will try non desktop image after bit
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<[TheBug]> server image is the same
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<lanefu> Thanks for testinf
<keesj> My network setup at home is getting more complex and I am starting to think about getting a switch. anybody here with .. multiple smaller devices at home that have a setup they can recommend?
<keesj> I have like 3 arm board (run armbian in some cases) 4 routers and ip camera and a few ehternet connections
<lanefu> I like the TP-Link smart switches
<lanefu> TP-Link 16 Port Gigabit Switch,... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GRG63P6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
<keesj> the omada stuff?
<keesj> that one loook like it ticks a lot of boxes.
<lanefu> The omada series is meant to compete with unifi so probably overkill for your needs.
<keesj> I also do want "roaming" wifi
<keesj> perhaps I will commbine it with something like https://www.tp-link.com/nl/home-networking/deco/deco-m9-plus/v1%20(3-pack)%20(3-pack)/ it seams tp-link is relatively cheap compared to others. at the same time I am wondering how to setup my arm boards in a nicer setup (perhaps even a 19 inch rack?)
<keesj> currently.. well it is a mess of routers/ehternet / power adapters and boards.. mostly hanging of some wire
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> armhf-on-arm64 building results: helios4 builds, but tinkerboard fails with a freak error, during rootfs assembly. Investigating more...
<buZz> there's some nice stuff around for that anyway
<keesj> nice
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> remember: RPi's have no crypto extensions, thanks to Broadcom cutting costs. SSH, SSL (TLS/HTTPS) and OpenVPN are going to be very slow if terminated or initiated by a rpi.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> I recommend considering that carefully before throwing 12 of those into a rack and wondering why they're 100% cpu load and super slow.
<Nickli> does any other arm soc handle encryption better?
<keesj> like.. my current setup https://i.imgur.com/GUqaRWl.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/oq2wEUb.jpg and I would like to move forward without buys more small stuff . perhaps that indeed some kind of small cabinet with a TP-Link switch is a good way forward
<keesj> I only have some bakcups running (over wireguard) on a Neo Plus 2. .. some home assistant/zigbee stuff and a a home server (e.g. irc mail) but nothing fancy..
<buZz> keesj: i like POE powered SBCs , for 19" usage :)
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> Nickli: google for sbc-bench and see numbers for crypto operations
<buZz> some random 16 port POE switch or something
<buZz> just saves so much hardware :) no >10 powersupplies etc
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<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> Wireguard can use ChaCha20 instead of AES if you configure it right. Without acceleration hardware, elliptic curve crypto behaves better on the CPU. So Wireguard is indeed one of the better options on Broadcom SoC.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> I'd consider the alternative CM4-compatible offerings out there, by Radxa for example.
<keesj> Poe (wifi and devices) and a single large switch would be a massivle cleanup
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> Still HW-accelerated AES is much faster than ChaCha on the CPU.
<buZz> hmhm
<buZz> at the hackerspace we just got 3x IAP225 donated O_o
<buZz> ~1100 euro a pop, insane
<buZz> (poe powered wifi access points with proper roaming etc)
<keesj> this is a bit over my budget
<keesj> .. so what Poe enable devices are good for running armbian?
<buZz> https://www.ebay.nl/itm/384421195175 are kinda nice ;) for boards without native poe
<buZz> be careful not to mix passive and active poe btw
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> armhf-on-arm64: tinkerboard fixed, it had unrelated issues in family_tweaks etc (the origin of the bluez crazy BTW!). I also enabled building it on amd64 with system (not Linaro) toolchains. Will build CI again and then push to logging branch 😉
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<lanefu> i've done at least 700mibt on wireguard with pine-H64 (allwinner h6)
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> yeah. sun8i-ce has some crypto extensions that help
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<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> Here's a bunch of test images. tinkerboard, helios4 armhf built on arm64 after fixes. some x86 desktops, some rpi4b, cloud shit, etc. https://github.com/rpardini/armbian-release/releases/tag/20220109b
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<[TheBug]> rpardini: do you have any expectation that the Rpi4b image works on 3b and want me to test it?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> it works on 3b
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> bug: I only heard about it, no expectation of test... I think in forum there's ppl who know more.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> rpi bootloader does its own stuff finding dtbs and such so it a bit works by accident I think.
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> and I left a minor overclock in the default config, so that might mess up 3b for no good reason.
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<nekomancer[m]> <keesj> "My network setup at home is..." <- I use dumb and manageable switches from aliaexpress and "it just work".
<nekomancer[m]> <Armbian-Discord> "<r​pardini> armhf-on-arm64..." <- what armbian branch you run it? I'd try to look into rootfs assembly too.
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<argonautx> I have some troubble building armbian for my Pine64 board: https://paste.debian.net/1226502/
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<nekomancer[m]> <buZz> "be careful not to mix passive..." <- what the difference?
<buZz> <this> "is pretty an..." <- noying
<buZz> lol
<buZz> technically, passive poe isnt poe at all
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<nekomancer[m]> <buZz> "technically, passive poe isnt..." <- what are you talking about?
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<nekomancer[m]> PoE is a name of standart
<nekomancer[m]> * name of family of standart
<nekomancer[m]> what do you mean as "passive poe"?
<rpardini> hola IRC
<Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> hola Discord
<nekomancer[m]> hola matrix
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