04:09 <c0rnelius> Why is this still even happening? https://forum.armbian.com/topic/16912-nanopi-neo-2-armbian-201110-focal-unable-to-build-kernel-5104-source-no-rule-to-make-target-archarm64kernelvdsovdsolds/#comment-133919

04:10 <c0rnelius> if you review the contents of scripts you'll see the module.lds is missing? https://imola.armbian.com/beta/pool/main/l/linux-5.10.84-meson64/linux-headers-current-meson64_21.11.0-trunk.94_arm64.deb

04:13 <c0rnelius> When I explained the proper way Armbian should really go about this it got dismissed. Basically stop patching and cleaning the headers during creation and do so during installation. Keep copy of said file, clean, patch and make scripts. Not only does that fix the headers being fucked during cross compiling it also fixes any glbic error that may happen across releases. For example Jammy isn't using

04:13 <c0rnelius> the same version as Bullseye.

04:13 <c0rnelius> glibc*

12:35 <stipa> c0rnelius: choose one you like https://tenor.com/search/stop-whining-gifs

13:02 <c0rnelius> I'll have to look later.

17:51 <nekomancer[m]> nightly build for `helios64` turns turbines full throttle on boot and newer off.

17:52 <nekomancer[m]> 2-3 weeks it was work

18:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Hmmmm

18:35 <nekomancer[m]> ...aaaand — helios not goes shit down after cut of power (internal UPS present there)

18:36 <nekomancer[m]> oops — it turned off now... need to power it back on abd check for graceful shutdown was performed or just battery empty

18:45 <nekomancer[m]> no trails of shutdown procedure in /var/log/messages. just boot. it means just eat all power from battery and cut off the power.

20:42 <stipa> nekomancer[m]: sounds like some process sucked all the power as fast as it could

20:42 <stipa> the first thing that comes to my mind is maybe some auto compilation

20:43 <[TheBug]> or sounds like an issue with your battery

20:44 <stipa> the fan spun so it must be that cpu got under load

20:44 <[TheBug]> well what I mean is you didn't have enough voltage

20:44 <[TheBug]> undervolt = turn off in a lot of cases

20:48 <stipa> it maybe turned off when the battery drained

20:55 <[TheBug]> well if the fan was full tilt it was taking a lot of voltage, so if CPU kicked up high at same time likely not enough voltage and poop

20:56 <stipa> yeah, low battery, since seems like sbc is not monitoring the battery and doesn't know when to shut down if battery gets low

20:58 <stipa> if there is some smarts then it's a bug probably

20:59 <stipa> that's the whole point of the ups

21:00 <stipa> drain itself and shut down properly not to fuck up data

21:01 <stipa> it drained but there's no shutdown signal in the logs

21:01 <[TheBug]> well he said the issue in his thesis statement so I think he knows the issue -- "nightly build for `helios64` turns turbines full throttle on boot and newer off."

21:02 <nekomancer[m]> htop show no load

21:02 <[TheBug]> yeah how are you controling the fan

21:02 <[TheBug]> on my hc4 I wrote my own script for it

21:02 <[TheBug]> I think they had a similar script type thing for it

21:03 <[TheBug]> just changes pwm speed based on SOC temp

21:03 <[TheBug]> the default on RockPro64 until you send any change is full speed

21:03 <[TheBug]> it could be this default changed

21:03 <[TheBug]> and the script expects by default it is off

21:04 <[TheBug]> and thus never changes the speed

21:04 <nekomancer[m]> my bad is I don't know how "it" controls the fan and checks for temperature and battert load. previously all that "just works". somewhere should be some scripts, but I don't know where and namres.

21:04 <nekomancer[m]> so, will dig into it.

21:05 <[TheBug]> um hc4 I think stole some of the script for it from helios

21:05 <[TheBug]> its probably a systemd unit that runs the script at boot

21:05 <[TheBug]> if I recall its just script that literally polls the SoC temp sensor and then send different values to pwm based on results

21:05 <[TheBug]> its not very difficult, if you find it I am sure you can easily mod it your self

21:10 <stipa> so what

21:10 <stipa> the fan drained the battery?

21:10 <[TheBug]> yeah, if left on high fans can use lots of power

21:10 <[TheBug]> especially at higher voltages

21:11 <stipa> ok, but why battery didn't turn off the helios?

21:12 <stipa> nekomancer[m]: what ups do you have?

21:15 <nekomancer[m]> helios64 have build-in battery and requred curcuit.

21:15 <nekomancer[m]> so, when it battery-powered, fan turned a littlo lowder.

21:15 <stipa> got it

21:15 <[TheBug]> then sounds like you have a bad battery if it still shut off without shutdown

21:15 <[TheBug]> hmm

21:15 <[TheBug]> what battery you using?

21:15 <stipa> something stniks

21:15 <stipa> stinks*

21:16 <[TheBug]> I feel like I am playing detective while nekomancer[m] knows all the answers already ;p

21:17 <nekomancer[m]> no. looks like sensors shows wrong data. (i still not investigate it, because there 23:11 now, it is noisy, and I can't have it "ON" until daytime — my family prepares to sleep

21:17 <[TheBug]> ahh

21:18 <[TheBug]> I see

21:18 <nekomancer[m]> will try to dig when nobody want to sleep in my flat

22:17 <nekomancer[m]> When armbian-config.deb in repos will be actualised?