havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 3.2.2, 3.1.4, 3.3.0-preview1: https://www.ruby-lang.org | Rules: https://ruby-community.com | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ruby
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<libsys> hello rubysts... question, how do you do with sequel to avoid circular references? I tend to use require to make it aware of classes when moving from a parent to a child and vice versa. But output yells at me: "warning: loading in progress, circular require considered harmful".
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<cxl_> Hi all, are there any `rails new` templates recommended by the community? I know of Gorails' template but I can't justify putting 250$ into a project that will probably never earn this much over its lifetime so I'm looking for alternatives.
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<johnjaye> leftylink: that's part of the problem of having stable knowledge in a rapidly changing environment
<johnjaye> if you come up with a rule or guideline the language or platform can just redefine things so it doesn't matter
<ox1eef_> It is usually not that extreme. There's some constants you can rely on.
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<wakaflaka> cxl_: hey,i got gorails too
<wakaflaka> but the iphone one
<wakaflaka> hey! can u do me a favor cxl_ ?
<wakaflaka> my mistake, i see you haven't bought it
<wakaflaka> i wanted a git log --pretty=oneline --reverse > ~/template.md
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<johnjaye> is there a way to get the value of a while loop? i vaguely thought I read that somewhere. it's a rather lispy feature
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<adam12> johnjaye: You could probably assign at the loop.
<adam12> johnjaye: `while (input = gets); p input; end`
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<jwr> Anybody else get bit recently by an SSL error when trying to download ruby from cache.ruby-lang.org? https://pastebin.com/raw/ZHVw4nQz
<ruby[bot]> jwr: as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
<adam12> curl: (60) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'cache.ruby-lang.org'
<adam12> Hmm
<adam12> jwr: Yes! It must have just happened in the last hour
<adam12> because this was working for me around 9.
<adam12> I wonder who we can tag for this.
<adam12> jwr: What platform is this?
<adam12> I'm seeing it on Ubuntu.
<jwr> adam12: like cpu architecture? ARM.
<jwr> adam12: oh, OS, yeah, ubuntu.
<adam12> 22.04?
<jwr> yep
<adam12> It works on Mac. I wonder why.
<adam12> Maybe the certificate chain is broken.
<jwr> i noticed that as well.
<adam12> Hmm, nope. Maybe the ca bundle from Ubuntu isn't up to date enough?
<adam12> Only an issue with curl.
<jwr> `openssl s_client -connect cache.ruby-lang.org:443` doesn't show any CN for ruby-lang.org AFAICT, i only see references to fastly.
<adam12> Pass `-servername cache.ruby-lang.org`
<jwr> oh, there it is. `subject=/CN=*.ruby-lang.org`. i guess i just don't know what i'm doing with random openssl commands.
<jwr> even if the problem is "only an issue with curl", curl is used by rbenv, so curl is pretty well embedded in the supply chain.
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<adam12> That's the issue I am having. ruby-build is busted.
<adam12> And on Ubuntu, it prefers curl over wget.
<adam12> Might need to open a ticket on the bug tracker I guess, but I posted on Ruby.social first.
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<jwr> heh, i looked for a bug tracker in the ruby/ruby repo but apparently there isn't one. thanks for spreading the message.
<adam12> Works on Deb 12.
<adam12> bugs.ruby-lang.org
<adam12> Works on Deb 11. Bizarre.
<adam12> Works on Deb 10.
<adam12> Works on Ubuntu 23.04. So it's only busted on jammy/22.04.
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<adam12> It's gotta be something with Ubuntu 22.04 I guess. Maybe a botched update
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<naltun> haven't been in #ruby in... 5-6 years. Feels good to jump back in
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<adam12> naltun: welcome back
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<jwr> adam12: if you happen to be waiting on the curl bug, it seems resolved new. the new curl shows up in the apt repos when i check them.
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<naltun> adam12 cheers
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<adam12> jwr: Thanks! Just tried and it looks right.
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