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sarna: I was thinking about making apps with flutter, but after this stack overflow think I decided to find another way to do that.
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I just need to run some ruby code in the terminal on my phone for now
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Jojero: what's the stack overflow thing? if you just need a terminal, termux will serve you well
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sarna: It's a stack
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Overflow dev survey
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Termux is not working on my phone
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happy friday!
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happy friday adam!
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kaFkaBR: how goes it
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adam12: All good! And with you?
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kaFkaBR: can't complain, except for the day of meetings that is ahead of me :O
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Wrote some Ruby this morning, which is always a joy, and started reading the 3rd edition of UML Distilled.... if you can believe that (circa 2004)
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kaFkaBR >
I think that I read none UML book in my life hahaha
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kaFkaBR >
This book?
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kaFkaBR: Yes, that's the one. I don't think I read a UML book front to back in my life either. I've been doing UML ad-hoc for years, but was reminded of this book by a talk from Jim Weirich. So I ordered a copy.
https://youtu.be/VyuMWYzl9gM
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adam12 >
I think UML is kind of dead, replaced by Mermaid? but I think it's still work looking at.
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kaFkaBR >
adam12: I will watch this talk to understand your point. Thank's for the recommendation!
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kaFkaBR: cheers.
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johnjaye >
is (0...10).each a good style?
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and is the |x| syntax only for one line blocks?
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weaksauc_ >
it's fine but 10.times do |x| whatever end
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weaksauc_ >
might be easier to read
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johnjaye >
i think python has some weird syntax distinction for do this x times vs count from 1 to x
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i forgot the name of it though. but it's like it for (i,j) where i is a number and j is the thing being iterated over
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weaksauc_ >
it depends really
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it's pretty artificial and rare to use that like that
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weaksauc_ >
personally i forget which is which wrt .. and ...
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with 10.times you know it will go from 0 to 9 since that's 10
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leftylink >
the extra . adds distance
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well the shittiest part of rememberig it is when you also use a different language where .. means the opposite
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leftylink >
for example one where .. is Ruby's ... and ..= is Ruby's ..
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leftylink >
now you have to remember not to mix up your languages
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I don't know why enumerate and each_with_index were brought into the conversation though. it didn't seem related to the question. if each_with_index is a better fit then use it, yes, that hopefully goes without saying
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you know the operator precedence in ruby makes perfect sense
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compared to C main difference is the bitwise & and | operators are misplaced
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did ruby ever have ! as a math operator?
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this table says there is Math.exp and Math.exp! as well as Math.sin and Math.sin!
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even if such functions existed, the ! would be part of the name of the function, not an operator
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ok. must be a formatting problem
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pandabot: what's ruby precedence
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I see. yes it does seem like C's could cause a problem sometimes
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hello gals... question, how can I make a system-wide ruby gem available to bundle exec?
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libsys >
I want to debug something with the debug gem, but I don't want to include that gem on my Gemfile
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libsys you can't
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It also modifies Rubygems:
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disallow loading additional gems not in the bundle
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weaksauc_: That'd be 11.times. :P
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Oh, you said that, I hadn't gotten there in the backlog.
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It also creates a Fiber, since it's an Enumerator, so a bit more overhead than a Range.
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