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<courmisch> though I don't suppose either Linux or BSD will cope well with vectors on only 1 of 2 cores
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<davidlt> courmisch, you can always ignore the other core.
<gurki> looks like he main focus is using the "kpu unit" whatever that is precisely anyway
<gurki> video encoding at 20/40 fps ... isnt that super-uncommon Oo
<gurki> now i wonder from which systems they repurposed this soc :3
<courmisch> davidlt: yeah but I wonder what Linux does in the face of mismatched ISA extensions
<davidlt> courmisch, not sure, most likely you would remove the extra extensions from other cores in DT.
<davidlt> There will be more of this. StarFive next-gen SoC/IP also has different ISA between cores.
<conchuod> If only some cores have the vector, and not others, it will be disabled.
<conchuod> The DT should reflect the actual extensions each hart has.
<davidlt> I bet at some point different ISA will get support.
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<gurki> davidlt: it forced intel to ditch avx512 on desktop, im not certain about that one
<gurki> however, i would be happy to see that
<davidlt> gurki, I think (just an opinion) Intel is playing a long game. AVX10.X is happening. Thread Director is improving.
<davidlt> I wouldn't be surprised that Intel plans to have cores with different capabilities (could be vector length, different ISA extensions).
<davidlt> It's just a 10-year mission (slow burn).
<gurki> as i said. i really hope it does :)
<davidlt> But I am impressed in Zen 4 / Zen 4C, which is epic for AMD :)
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<davidlt> IIUC it takes twice less space, just half of cache, and designed with denser low-power cells or whatever, but it's the same Zen 4 core design.
<gurki> oh i had no intention of saying "look at great intel", just hinting at ppl hitting that wall before
<davidlt> So it sounds cheaper compared to Intel doing different core designs (but they can pack more of these).
<davidlt> Oh yeah, I still recall Exynos from Samsung with different ISA on the cores.
<davidlt> And random segfaults (illegal instruction) is your thread was moved to a core that didn't implement some extension :)
<gurki> *g*
<davidlt> But Intel is definitely working on something: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-IPC-Classes-Post-RFC
<davidlt> I kinda like 16 + 8, 32 + 8 (if that happens) designs.
<davidlt> and AMD is kinda going that direction too with Zen 4 + Zen 4C mix in the laptops to begin with, but again ISA is the same there, and even the cores are kinda the same.
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* felixonmars failed again to boot up my d1 with upstream kernel
<felixonmars> https://paste.xinu.at/ddgqD/ wonders if anyone has an idea here
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<courmisch> on AArch64, mismatched extensions are reduced to lowest common denominator as well. Hotplug CPU are parked if they don't implement the boot-time lowest common denominator
<courmisch> this is going to be a tough sell for Linux RISC-V to upstream
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<Esmil> felixonmars: make sure you build in the rtc clocks too. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2023-August/142381.html
<Esmil> ..and CONFIG_REGULATOR_FIXED_VOLTAGE=y
<felixonmars> i found it, i need fixed regulator to properly initialize it
<felixonmars> not sure if we should do something to drop the need for clk_ignore_unused
<Esmil> hmm.. what do you need that for? i'm not using that, and last i tried upstream booted fine
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<felixonmars> booting stuck at "clk: Disabling unused clocks" here without it :(
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<felixonmars> or maybe that was because of the missing drivers?
<Esmil> could be
<felixonmars> submitted a patch for the missing regulators: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/mkinitcpio/mkinitcpio/-/merge_requests/270
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<drewfustini> courmisch: thanks, I just ordered one
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