08:04 <sicelo> https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/uMTvcCvJzWZrfAeFfOIPFQcC?allow_redirect=true

08:04 <sicelo> https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/qUPRFkmtCeOPIyfqXjXapAZq?allow_redirect=true

08:04 <sicelo> https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/BTzAvITGdzInkuUGGNZZPZdw?allow_redirect=true

08:04 <sicelo> https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/wBTVwzZZxbMIGbSgFukCXQwo?allow_redirect=true

08:05 <sicelo> pictures from yesterday's work :-)

08:08 <Wizzup> cool!

08:10 <sicelo> everything in /dev/dri/* has root:video ownership

08:11 <dsc_> nice

08:11 <Wizzup> (bedtime here :))

08:12 <sicelo> heh, you travel a lot. last we talked we were almost in same TZ

08:12 <Wizzup> must have been ~1.5 weeks ago

08:12 <Wizzup> I hadn't travelled for 4-5 months iirc :)

09:38 <sicelo> freemangordon: btw, why did we have to remove xserver-xorg-legacy? i see we have a conflict for it against h-d. i'm just doing some reading and it appears that its Xwrapper stuff might be needed to get around the rootless X11 issue i'm facing

09:38 <sicelo> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6019

09:44 <sicelo> i'd appreciate any help/suggestions for troubleshooting. we've established that running X as root starts hildon just fine.

09:45 <sicelo> (oh btw, for some reason it's not using 3D accel yet ... but i can look at that properly later)

10:11 <sicelo> maybe the autologin stuff is not working properly in my setup? the previous screenshots were from booting to recovery mode, then running startx

10:12 <sicelo> as root, that is

10:12 <sicelo> now, in recovery, i did

10:12 <sicelo> login, entered user and its password. then startx. there's no x11 error this time

10:51 <sicelo> i now see "Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices"

11:05 <gnarface> hmm, try specifying the busID in xorg.conf?

11:06 <gnarface> probably a red herring, but maybe worth a try

11:06 <gnarface> to get a different error

11:08 <sicelo> https://paste.debian.net/1311380/

11:08 <sicelo> what is busID? and i've removed the xorg.conf that i had

11:09 <gnarface> i think xorg.conf calls it PCIID or something like that

11:09 <gnarface> i'd have to review the docs

11:09 <gnarface> it's basically the bus address of the video card you want to use

11:09 <gnarface> it's usually not ambiguous, but sometimes if you have more than one it needs you to be explicit

11:10 <gnarface> curiously, this warning, which i've never seen before, seems to hint that might be related: (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support

11:10 <gnarface> you have a phone with two video cards???

11:11 <sicelo> may I ask: do you use Maemo Leste?

11:11 <gnarface> sorry, no but i use devuan

11:11 <gnarface> i just felt sorry because everyone was asleep so i answered even though i don't know anything about hildon

11:12 <sicelo> ok. yes, the L5 shows card0 and card1. the same is true for the omap devices (N900, Droid4, etc.)

11:12 <gnarface> i have dealt with the suid xorg -> user mode xorg transition on other hardware though

11:12 <gnarface> in general i've got a lot of xorg experience

11:12 <gnarface> ah, i see, interesting

11:12 <gnarface> yea, i'd say force it to the other

11:12 <gnarface> you don't need a whole xorg.conf anymore, you just need to specify the sections you want to change from default/autodetect

11:13 <gnarface> man page lists it

11:13 <gnarface> BusID "bus-id"

11:13 <gnarface> search for this on there

11:13 <gnarface> you might be able to get away with just a Device section

14:04 <sicelo> mmm, https://community.toradex.com/t/graphics-accelerated-x11-application-on-i-mx8-based-som/18027/5

14:52 <buZz> just added that sebastian to 'allowed senders list' , seemingly some patches went to our ML, or discussions about it

15:06 <Wizzup> yeah we do get patches

15:07 <Wizzup> sicelo: mobian is accelerated yeah?

15:07 <sicelo> yes. wayland of course

15:08 <Wizzup> right, but I wouldn't think that would matter

15:09 <Wizzup> I mean it's possible it doesn't work, but I kind of assume ought to

15:54 <sicelo> will see later on. just need to get the desktop working

16:01 <Wizzup> you could get it working without accel for now right?

16:05 <sicelo> yes, that's my plan. the cpu is beefy enough

16:06 <sicelo> so far i just can't make progress with that permissions issue though

16:07 <sicelo> anyway, i think in the meantime, whenever you find a chance, please create a linux-librem5 repo on github

16:08 <sicelo> we'll mostly be tracking https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/kernels/librem5-linux/-/tree/mobian-6.6/

16:11 <sicelo> but will make some adjustments to the config, since we don't have an initramfs, thus some drivers need to be builtin

16:23 <Wizzup> I'll make the repo now.

16:23 <Wizzup> I'm wondering if we need to consider making a small initramfs if it would make our lives that much easier

16:26 <Wizzup> sicelo: done and added you as a maintainer

16:26 <Wizzup> had to use maemo otp to do it ;D

17:23 <sicelo> 😀