<Wizzup>
ok, managed to send byte with and then the persistent ones clear at least
<Wizzup>
with qt
<Wizzup>
and now indeed the notificatoins clear ok in 'regular' function
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: libplayback-1.0 is not installed by default it seems
<Wizzup>
or is it? I am confused now
<Wizzup>
in any case I see:
<Wizzup>
error time=1710043228.114135 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> destination=:1.12 error_name=org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown reply_serial=83 string "The name org.maemo.Playback.Manager was not provided by any .service files"
<Wizzup>
ah this is part of ohm
<Wizzup>
well probably a red herring
<Wizzup>
ok, well, I get LED and vibration now
<Wizzup>
sound will probably come if I fix the paths to the files
<Wizzup>
cool
<Wizzup>
yeah sound works now too
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: I wonder if we have spase in the notifications db do store dbus/xdg 'callback'
<freemangordon>
*space
<freemangordon>
hmm, connui-cellular seems to support cell name next to operator name, do we want that at all?
<freemangordon>
sicelo: Wizzup: uvos: ^^^
<sicelo>
cellIId?
<freemangordon>
no, cell name
<freemangordon>
seems to come with cell broadcast message
<sicelo>
ah, sure, we can display that, because in some cases it provides useful info. maybe have a control panel toggle for it
<freemangordon>
what exactly useful info it provides?
<freemangordon>
do you have an example?
<freemangordon>
and, even if the info is useful, do we want it to be displayed in status bar?
<freemangordon>
to me such broadcasts shall be either displayed on desktop or as a notifucation
<sicelo>
at some point, one of our operators used to display discounts on cells that had free capacity
<sicelo>
where on desktop could we show it
<sicelo>
anyway my Samsung seems to present them as flash messages, i.e. popup notification requiring clicking OK
<sicelo>
on symbian and Fremantle after jonwil's work, it used to be on operator name, something like "MTN MTNZONE 50%" where last two words are the cell text
<freemangordon>
yes, displaying them as notifications seems the right approach to me
<freemangordon>
not pushing in already limited space
<freemangordon>
so, for now I will remove it from status bar
<freemangordon>
and when (and if we have support for CBS in ofono qmi) I will reimplement as clickable notifications
<freemangordon>
also will implement support for emergency broadcasts
<sicelo>
the status way is nicer because you see if it's therea and you're interacting with device. notification way is a notification... i.e. calls your attention even if you weren't really interested at the time.
<freemangordon>
how often does that happen?
<sicelo>
but sure, it's better especially if you support many modems
<freemangordon>
mhm
<freemangordon>
my point exactly
<freemangordon>
also, in any case I will have to support emergency CBS as notification
<freemangordon>
re "where on desktop": another applet dedicated for showing CBS
<sicelo>
widget?
<freemangordon>
mhm
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: fine by me @ cell name
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: sure we have space, but we'll still have to deal deal with that name not existing
<Wizzup>
tbh the notifications existing across reboot always kind of surprised me about fremantle
<arno11>
some important pkgs were missing like hildon-meta
<arno11>
still the bloody Dummy network problem btw :(
<arno11>
so i can't test modest, HAM and conversations for the moment
<Wizzup>
arno11: so what do you need, just something to tell icd2 'yes there is network' ?
<arno11>
yes i think
<Wizzup>
can you run ifconfig in proot and share it with me
<arno11>
ok let me few minutes (baby around)
<Wizzup>
I can probably modify libicd-network-dummy
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<diejuse>
arno11 All the new applications that you show and comment on (email, sphone, hildon-meta, location, Conversations, sphone dealer...) I have tried them all and had them installed. But I deleted them on purpose because they don't work and only left the ones that work installed.
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: do you know why tklock hardcodes the icon names?
<diejuse>
The key is whether you can get one to work.
<Wizzup>
diejuse: again, if xsession parts are run, many of them will work
<Wizzup>
but the dialer likely won't work since it needs modem access
<arno11>
diejuse: ok, the key is the network atm
<Wizzup>
but many conversations things can work
<Wizzup>
arno11: i'm thinking of making one for 'lo' that just always returns true
<Wizzup>
can you build it if I write it
<arno11>
sure
<Wizzup>
icd2 is runnning btw?
<Wizzup>
running*
<Wizzup>
as is gconf?
<Wizzup>
arno11: and just for completeness sake, you did try the dummy network gconf commands, right?
<arno11>
Wizzup: yes for icd2, gconf and yes for gconf commands
<diejuse>
Wizzup Again, is already testing everything you mention. If I haven't included some parts it's because they don't work.
<diejuse>
I say again that if you want to run applications as app manager in proot. You have to modify the application or create others. It will not work through dummy networks.
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<arno11>
diejuse: yes that's why Wizzup will modify libicd-network-dummy (to try to tell to maemo apps that the network is ok)
<Wizzup>
diejuse: I think arno11 is trying to take things that you repor as 'do not [3~mwork' and make them work
<Wizzup>
arno11: ok I'll make something in the next hour
<arno11>
ok, no rush, thx :)
<diejuse>
arno11 yes, we all agree on that part of what he said.
<Wizzup>
arno11: hm, could you maybe get some logs from icd2?
<Wizzup>
I'm half wondering why dummy doesn't just work
<arno11>
(for logs) probably
<Wizzup>
I'm assuming that diejuse's script starts it
<arno11>
yes
<Wizzup>
you can run icd2 without -d and with -l0
<arno11>
ok
<Wizzup>
I am not sure if there is a way not to send things to syslog, I'd have to look
<arno11>
ok
<arno11>
diejuse: again, what you did with proot is awesome
<Wizzup>
or having syslog work would be useful too
<arno11>
ok
<diejuse>
arno11 Thank you. I value and appreciate your opinion very much. Together we will all improve it for a new version.
<Wizzup>
arno11: actually I think perhaps what we need to do is check why dummy doesn't work
<Wizzup>
I think it should just work, unless icd2 is not allowed to do something
<arno11>
yes ofc the priority is the dummy stuff
<arno11>
i' ll try to get logs a bit later.
<arno11>
diejuse: no doubt :)
<arno11>
bbl
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<uvos>
Wizzup: it seams something recent has broken the volume bar
<Wizzup>
on what device?
<uvos>
mapphones
<Wizzup>
it works on my d4
<Wizzup>
are you on -devel, or?
<uvos>
yeah devel
<Wizzup>
same
<Wizzup>
hm..
<uvos>
i think it may be broken only after plging in headphones
<Wizzup>
do yo uhave anything custom, kernel, or?
<uvos>
not rn
<uvos>
hmm
<uvos>
it seams to control the correct pa volume
<uvos>
but this dosent change the acutal volume
<uvos>
wierd
<uvos>
so nvm its not the volume applet at all but pa
<uvos>
ah i figured it out
<uvos>
false alarm - sortof
<Wizzup>
hm?
<uvos>
i was testing with mpd, but devuan mpd runs as root (dumb) and a since we switched to user pa some time ago, apearanly now a new pa process gets spawned just for mpd
<uvos>
so changeing the volume in the user pa dosent affect mpd
<uvos>
not sure how to avoid this - but its annoying
<uvos>
but more of a devuan than a leste issue
<Wizzup>
you an run mpd as user but yea
<Wizzup>
you can*
<uvos>
sure yeah but thats not what the devuan package dose
<uvos>
anyhow mostly false alarm
<uvos>
carry on
<Wizzup>
ok
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: no (icons)
<Wizzup>
It might be to prevent having random icons there or something
<freemangordon>
why it is an issue?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: it's not a big issue, I was experimenting with showing the protocol icon (xmpp, irc, slack, etc) on the lock screen as opposed to the generic sms/chat icon
<freemangordon>
I see. I think current implementation is better
<freemangordon>
otherwise we risk to have too crowded screen
<freemangordon>
also, we are account/service centric, not app-centric :)
<Wizzup>
then show the service icon
<Wizzup>
if you want to call it that
<Wizzup>
it's the same thing
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<sicelo>
i've never used mpd, but shouldn't volume controls (hence pa interactions) be on the client instead of the server?
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