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<Wizzup> sorry, timed out
<diejuse> so tomorrow more and better :p
<Wizzup> great
<Wizzup> I think from my perspective, what would be really great is reproducability
<Wizzup> like, how to go from maemo image to proot tar
<Wizzup> because then we could even automate it
<diejuse> It would be good but keep in mind that proot has quite a few limits and you have to do a lot of workarounds or transform several things about Maemo Leste.
<Wizzup> mhm
<diejuse> Example: "app manager" from Maemo. Dummy networks doesn't work. Other app managers like Synaptic do work. The only solution is for maemo's "app manager" to have less complexity and be a simple graphical "apt install".
<diejuse> I couldn't get OMP to work either. I will investigate but I think the problem is that the way it works is not compatible with using proot.
<diejuse> I don't know if you have a phone with Android 8 or higher but I would like you to try it, if you have time.
<Wizzup> I think it likely has to do with perhaps not running run-parts on xsession
<Wizzup> (OMP)
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<Wizzup> sicelo: I think maybe what happens is that pcsuite is only entered when you click the pc suite button
<Wizzup> I would suggest we always go for pcsuite for now
<Wizzup> for example is touchscreen doesn't work
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<Wizzup> for example if*
<Wizzup> (agreed)?
<Wizzup> also I did check that this is indeed the case btw, if I click 'pc suite' I do get usb net, but normally I don't
<Wizzup> this is annoying when mz617 ts doesn't work on boot
<Wizzup> (having to get a serial out every time is a pain)
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<arno11> diejuse: awesome work man, able to run maemo proot pretty well on a redmi note 12 (android 14)
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<diejuse> @arno11 Great! Thanks for letting me know. If you can, share an image.
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<arno11> indeed, the proot leste img is a bit light/basic for the moment but it should be not too complicated to add lot of stuff imo :)
<arno11> that's really funny/amazing to run leste on android 14
<diejuse> arno11 cool, Yes, I tried to make it as basic as possible so that it was light in megabytes and so that everyone could install what they want :)
<diejuse> Yes, it is!
<sicelo> where are the instructions btw? :-)
<diejuse> It is also amazing to install it on phones as closed (impossible to root) as the blackberry key
<sicelo> don't know if my poor Samsunga A03s can manage it.
<sicelo> or even S7
<diejuse> Only neeed Android 8 or more
<Wizzup> sicelo: what do you think about my ke-recv comments
<diejuse> sicelo It will work on both. They are more powerful phones than my old Blackberry Key1.
<sicelo> Wizzup: i'll look. last few days i've been stuck on some other RL stuff
<Wizzup> it's just re: usbnet
<Wizzup> it does work, but it works only if you press 'pc suite' button
<Wizzup> but in case you have no touchscreen or something, you can't do that ,and it's useless
<Wizzup> so I'm thinking we should enter usbnet mode by default
<sicelo> i *think* it was working without touching on my N900 ... the TS is broken on that N900
<sicelo> but sure, I don't see a problem with doing usbnet by default. it makes perfect sense, especially for alpha/beta where we are :-)
<Wizzup> I think we used to automatically load it through some init script
<Wizzup> ok cool
<arno11> Wizzup: sicelo: i think it should be useful to add diejuse chroot/proot stuff in Leste wiki or just a gh link (ofc if diejuse is ok with that)
<Wizzup> I mean, yes, but it would be nice if it was reproducible and people could make their own build(s), so they know how it works
<Wizzup> and yes, feel free to add it to the wiki
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<arno11> ok cool, and yes the challenge is to make it reproducible indeed
<diejuse> Wizzup Ok for me.  sicelo let me know when it's added
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<diejuse> I meant @arno11
<sicelo> diejuse: you can add it yourself
<diejuse> sicelo Good but let @arno11 add it since he offered to do it.
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<Wizzup> well that ke-recv change didn't work
<Wizzup> mz617 does complain it doesn't have configfs on 6.6, but it still works it seems
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<Wizzup> -devel users, conversations is now default for sms on -devel, and sphone will use the voicecallmanager module
<Wizzup> everything should just work, but who knows
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