#maemo-leste on 2024-03-12 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-08-13 21:41 Wizzup changed the topic of #maemo-leste to: Maemo Leste is in alpha: https://maemo-leste.github.io | ML: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/maemo-leste.en.html | Latest status: http://tny.im/v0T | Wiki: https://leste.maemo.org | IRC: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/maemo-leste/ ; https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc.txt

00:15 <dsc_> diejuse: hey

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00:33 <dsc_> diejuse: Re: hamsterfiler, dont have time right now, maybe this week ;)

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02:20 <diejuse> dsc_ Ok sir

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10:25 <arno11> Wizzup: diejuse: conversations facebook plugin works perfectly in proot :)

10:44 <sicelo> :-)

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13:02 <diejuse> @arno11 good! Although I rarely use Facebook messenger. Telegram and IRC are the ones that interest me the most.

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13:08 <buZz> did we get telegram in conversations/telepathy yet?

13:08 <buZz> i think i heard signal?

13:08 <buZz> or was it matrix ..

13:09 <buZz> 'in 2024' i've been adopting almost 'all' these messenger services ;)

13:12 <diejuse> buZz We are talking about the plugins that work in Maemo Leste via proot.

13:12 <buZz> ah, i am not aware what proot is ;)

13:12 <buZz> pivot root?

13:15 <diejuse> pseudo root

13:17 <buZz> not sure how that affects plugins

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13:31 <Wizzup> arno11: great

13:31 <Wizzup> buZz: signal not yet, but only because signald registration doesn't work atm

13:31 <Wizzup> matrix not really yet, still very muhc wip

13:32 <Wizzup> but I got telegram working okayish

13:32 <buZz> nice nice

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15:04 <diejuse> I have added chimaera-testing to sources.list but apt install does not find rtcom-accounts-plugin-telegram. chimaera-testing needs special access?

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15:47 <sicelo> i think it's not in a repository yet.

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15:55 <diejuse> so how I install it?

15:55 <Wizzup> sicelo: hm... I *think* it might be

15:56 <Wizzup> https://maedevu.maemo.org/pkgweb/search?q=*telegram*

15:56 <Wizzup> diejuse: what exact line did you add

15:58 <sicelo> ah yeah, sorry. i wasn't looking in extras

15:59 <Wizzup> diejuse: so you need the extras repo line with chimaera-testing instead of chimaera

15:59 <Wizzup> not the regular repo line

15:59 <Wizzup> I know it's confusing and I wished we have gone for chimaera-devel for extras too, but hey.

16:01 <diejuse> Wizzup Ok, ready, installing, Thanks

16:02 <Wizzup> please see the github issue on how to set it up

16:02 <Wizzup> it's not trivial yet.

16:02 <diejuse> Yes, I took a look.

16:05 <sicelo> Wizzup: we can provide *.install files for any extra repos. i suppose support for them in HAM is still intact

16:06 <Wizzup> good point

16:06 <Wizzup> I don't know how this works, would you like to investigate?

16:13 <Wizzup> or make a github issue at least :)

16:13 <Wizzup> btw, the proot stuff is very exciting indeed

16:13 <Wizzup> it might be an easy way to get more people to explore maemo

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16:54 <diejuse> Wizzup that is the key, the attraction

16:55 <bencoh> yup, that's ery nice :)

16:57 <diejuse> Hundreds of Android smartphone models from different manufacturers and versions can use Maemo Leste.

16:58 <bencoh> :)

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18:40 <sicelo> Wizzup: .install, https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager/blob/a8fb56644c113cec364cbdb3b8e022472152e675/doc/install.txt#L13

18:41 <sicelo> except, the one i've made so far is returning "testing.install: Error on line 1 char 1: Document must begin with an element (e.g. <book>)

18:41 <sicelo> /usr/share/hildon-application-manager/defaults: No such file or directory"

18:43 <Wizzup> maybe check if these still exist

18:43 <Wizzup> in ham

18:43 <Wizzup> or dpkg -S

18:43 <sicelo> https://paste.debian.net/1310473/

18:44 <Wizzup> that is your .install file?

18:45 <sicelo> yes

18:45 <Wizzup> let's see where this defaults file come sfrom

18:46 <Wizzup> https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager-settings-standard maybe

18:46 <Wizzup> parazyd removed the defaults file

18:46 <Wizzup> https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager-settings-standard/commit/1e91b6c3133c699ffa0a90946e8aabb69111f645

18:46 <Wizzup> not sure why he did that, or why I asked him to do that, or etc

18:46 <Wizzup> maybe take the file from the git repo, put it there, and se if it makes things work

18:47 <sicelo> yes, i'm doing that

18:47 <sicelo> i think he removed that when fixing the automatic update notification ...

18:48 <sicelo> tbh, i guess HAM should be modified

18:49 <Wizzup> maybe just place the 4 line file there and see if it works

18:50 <Wizzup> oh you said you rae

18:50 <Wizzup> :)

18:50 <Wizzup> are*

18:50 <sicelo> the defaults error is gone, but the one about element is still there

18:50 <Wizzup> hm

18:51 <Wizzup> so it expects some xml file

18:52 <Wizzup> do we need to host some xml file in our deb repo?

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18:53 <sicelo> maybe the error is because i'm using hildon-application-manager-config to do the adding. it might be wrong :-p

18:54 <sicelo> let me install FF and see what happens (jib doesn't appear to do downloads)

18:54 <Wizzup> xdg-open might work

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18:59 <sicelo> who provides xdg-open? it's not in my VM

19:05 <Wizzup> hm

19:05 <Wizzup> xdg-utils

19:06 <Wizzup> sorry for late response, also in a work mtg

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19:12 <sicelo> thanks

19:13 <sicelo> HAM say operation-failed

19:13 <sicelo> log says command not found. weird

19:14 <Wizzup> could be, ham iirc has this socket communication or so

19:14 <Wizzup> and yeah this is a mess imo :D

19:17 <sicelo> this particular feature does work in fremantle though ... that's how CSSu repos were generally added back then

19:18 <sicelo> mmm, or xdg-open doesn't really know what to do with this file ...

19:28 <Wizzup> also possible

19:28 <Wizzup> I don't know what is supposed to open it on maemo

19:28 <Wizzup> fremantle

19:30 <sicelo> it can be opened from file manager or browser. so general mime stuff, i'd say

19:33 <Wizzup> ok, that is /usr/share/mime or something, no?

19:35 <Wizzup> there is /usr/share/mime/packages/hildon-application-manager.xml

19:35 <Wizzup> <mime-type type="application/x-install-instructions">

19:35 <Wizzup> <comment>Application manager install instructions</comment>

19:35 <Wizzup> <glob pattern="*.install"/>

19:35 <Wizzup> </mime-type>

19:36 <sicelo> yeah, that one's in Leste too

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19:40 <sicelo> hildon-application-manager 2.2.72

19:40 <sicelo> apt-worker exited.

19:40 <sicelo> sudo: /home/user/Downloads/testing.install: command not found

19:40 <sicelo> this is the actual log in HAM ...

19:41 <Wizzup> yeah I just got to that point too

19:43 <Wizzup> how did you make this install file,based on what

19:45 <sicelo> i modified http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/linenoise_all.install

19:46 <Wizzup> isn't that for a single package?

19:46 <Wizzup> guess not

19:46 <Wizzup> I think the first step is ot see if you can add that in fremantle by launching ham with args, or another program

19:47 <sicelo> and of course HAM docs say the same thing, https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager/blob/a8fb56644c113cec364cbdb3b8e022472152e675/doc/install.txt#L138-L151

19:47 <Wizzup> and if it works on fremantle, then see how to do it on leste

19:48 <Wizzup> if you run /usr/bin/hildon-application-manager-config dump you might see the format that this expects

19:48 <sicelo> i think there's a bug in our HAM

19:49 <sicelo> i.e. the problem, whatever it is, is not in the install file. i tried importing http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/linenoise_all.install into Leste HAM, and got exactly same error

19:50 <Wizzup> can you try it on fremantle?

19:50 <Wizzup> and by try it, I mean figure out what to run on the *terminal* to make it do the same

19:50 <Wizzup> so not just open it in the browser

19:50 <sicelo> i'll try a little later :-)

19:51 <sicelo> my N900 is not nearby, hence i was using VM

19:51 <Wizzup> ok

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20:43 <arno11> SIP messaging works in proot as well

20:43 <arno11> using simple haze

20:43 <arno11> i mean using conversations ofc

20:50 <Wizzup> cool

20:51 <sicelo> so how do you authenticate to the facebook and telegram plugins?

20:52 <Wizzup> for tg it's as explained in the github issue

20:52 <Wizzup> you use purple for the first and only time

20:52 <Wizzup> s/purple/pidgon/

20:52 <Wizzup> pidgin*

20:53 <sicelo> ah ok. i confess i haven't been following the development around conversations. let me see how the facebook one works

20:56 <Wizzup> well I mean for telegram

20:56 <Wizzup> idk about fb

21:00 <sicelo> btw, libicd-network-dummy doesn't appear to work in my vm

21:00 <sicelo> let me check that one out ... who knows, maybe that's why the .install isn't working

21:01 <arno11> sicelo: for facebook, you just need to install the plugin from extras testing in HAM

21:02 <arno11> no tricky config, just add email and password, and default settings

21:02 <sicelo> yes, but what password? my account has 2FA. or i should check to see if there's app password option in facebook maybe

21:02 <arno11> ah ok

21:03 <arno11> iirc there is a trick in this case

21:03 <sicelo> gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity | grep -i dummy ... please can anyone run this on their device that has dummy available :-)

21:03 <sicelo> i get:

21:03 <sicelo> /system/osso/connectivity/network_type/DUMMY:

21:03 <sicelo> network_modules = [libicd_network_dummy.so]

21:03 <sicelo> in vm ... seems i'm missing IAP

21:06 <sicelo> ah, the installation states that you must add it manually after all

21:07 <arno11> i get libicd_provider_dummy.so btw

21:08 <sicelo> now it's fine, i get a lot more from that command, and it's all working as expected

21:09 <sicelo> https://paste.debian.net/1310501/

21:09 <sicelo> doesn't help with HAM.

21:10 <arno11> you mean you can't use HAM ?

21:10 <sicelo> well, i wanted to make an install file for people to be able to easily add repos

21:11 <sicelo> i'll have a look at this again some time. have to go now

21:15 <arno11> (for install stuff) ah yes ok

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