14:09 <humanbeta> Is there plans move Maeemo Lesete from Devuan Chimaera based to Devuan Daedalus based?

14:12 <humanbeta> Or is this stupid question?

14:22 <humanbeta> How well MMS messages should work in Conversations?

14:31 <buZz> humanbeta: eventually it will move from chimaera to daedalus

14:31 <buZz> but there's a lot of stuff that needs work before its a option

14:31 <buZz> i never tried MMS on leste

14:32 <buZz> honestly havent used MMS since .. the 90s?

14:36 <humanbeta> I had to install fMMS to Maemo 5, because I did not get some SMS (android user though send SMS) that had big emoji.

14:37 <humanbeta> And I have noticed that Android or iOS user dont know wen they send SMS and when it automatically change to MMS.

14:41 <humanbeta> I did not need see those pictures, I only need text parts of those MMS (hoping that nobody does not send just picture thru MMS)

14:46 <humanbeta> And If somebody think why I not test myself, I am using multiSIM with Leste that have 4G dataconnect only. And I thinking to cut bigger SIM to use with Leste, but then at least phone calls and SMS and MMS have to work.

14:50 <humanbeta> so question is quite important to me before I cut SIM to smaller one.

14:53 <buZz> sadly i cant test it for you now

14:59 <humanbeta> its ok...I hope that somebody can answer to this question in somedays.

15:05 <humanbeta> btw...latest Open Media Player has one bug if listed by Artist then songs by unknow artist (artist information is empty) then song is not listed at all. But if you push play button it start playing (it was only  song in my test)

15:07 <buZz> feel free to fix ;)

15:09 <humanbeta> Maybe I have to learn first how to make hello world to Maemo UI.

15:14 <humanbeta> Is there any simple step by step start programming for Maemo Leste guide for dummies?

15:18 <humanbeta> this is quite nice, but it is for Maemo 4: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/maemo_4-0_tutorial/

15:22 <humanbeta> If somebody is skill full enough update that for Maemo Leste, it would be nice start for programming.

15:26 <buZz> humanbeta: 'pygame' might be a easy route

15:26 <buZz> but, almost any GTK or QT application 'howto' should give you something nice

15:36 <humanbeta> How well this Maemo Python tutorial should work with Leste: https://wiki.maemo.or'g/PyMaemo/UI_tutorial/Getting_started

15:44 <humanbeta> https://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/UI_tutorial/Getting_started

15:47 <Wizzup> it will work ok for gtk2 and python2

15:47 <Wizzup> we haven't tried to get mms to work on leste currently

15:48 <humanbeta> thanks for answer.

18:27 <arno11> Wizzup: sicelo: freemangordon: 15 days with no reboot, still stable with -devel, no slowdown on N900 :)

18:28 <arno11> https://pasteboard.co/DMp2q0Y4pbMm.png

18:40 <sicelo> arno11: oh yes! N900 always been rock stable with mainline Linux (at least since Leste was a thing). you can completely rely on it, as an alarm, for example :-p

18:47 <arno11> and network, video, audio, sphone, conversations, web, emulators still work fine after 15 days btw

19:00 <sicelo> it's a great device, only let down by the specs. even though i have Droid 4, i still find the N900 to be more fun. Now the L5 is here, and obviously some focus has shifted to it. but it looks like it won't take the place of the N900 ;-)

19:17 <Wizzup> arno11: great

19:18 <Wizzup> :)

19:18 <arno11> sicelo: N900 is very 'special' indeed, looks like it can't die. BTW great progress with L5 :)

19:18 <arno11> Wizzup: :)

19:22 <arno11> Wizzup: phone stuff seems more stable with vcm: even if the network is lost, it comes back easely (it was complicated before, without sphone/ofono restart)

19:26 <sicelo> oh, great news @vcm!

19:31 <arno11> and it works fine with no particular RT prio