<norayr>
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.mafw.renderer.Mafw-Gst-Renderer-Plugin.gstrenderer was not provided by any .service files
<norayr>
what is mafw-gst-renderer? (:
<missMyN900>
norayr: gst = gstreamer, I know that at least
<missMyN900>
norayr: I think this is bad news, seems like this is some Nokia proprietary GStreamer plug-in :(
<norayr>
yeas, was there some nokia proprietary gstreamer module?
<norayr>
eh.
<norayr>
ok, anyway, leafpad works, and that's very good. i love it.
<missMyN900>
you should probably ask uvos about this
<missMyN900>
I think this MAFW thing may be open source, actually
<missMyN900>
but not sure if it still needs to be ported or not
<missMyN900>
it is also connected to OMP in some way
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<missMyN900>
I have discovered that qtwebbrowser *does* have search capability
<missMyN900>
I was confused at first
<missMyN900>
it does say "search or type an url" or something like that but it didn't actually work
<missMyN900>
however, reading the QML source code I discovered that it has search capability hardcoded to Google
<missMyN900>
but, it only works if you type a search query and click on the white bar below the address bar with a "looking glass" icon. Hitting enter does not work unlike in most browsers!
<missMyN900>
so of course, my first modification will be adding support for multiple search engines like most (mobile) browsers have
<missMyN900>
the nice thing is, this browser should run fine on my Debian desktop, which makes dev a lot easier
<missMyN900>
no need to mess with VMs, cross compiling, transferring to the device etc
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<missMyN900>
Wizzup: I remember the Modrana UI! But I don't think from my N900 days. Was it available on SFOS too?
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<missMyN900>
uvos: I am getting "QML module not found (WebBrowser)" after importing qtwebbrowser in Qt Creator
<missMyN900>
this settingsview seems incredibly complicated and way too clever (but I am not an experienced Qt dev)
<missMyN900>
I may just partially rewrite it
<missMyN900>
I may remove some options as well. I mean who honestly wants to disable images or disk cache on a phone/tablet?
<missMyN900>
according to the Qt wiki a ListView is supposed to use a ListModel but they just have some dummy ListModel and don't actually use it
<missMyN900>
ah now it makes a little more sense
<missMyN900>
biggest problem is how are we going to modify something that was clearly designed only for checkboxes to include a ComboBox...
<missMyN900>
and by that I mean it was also only designed for binary options...
<missMyN900>
looks like the AppEngine saveSetting method at least supports strings so that is good news
<bencoh>
missMyN900: actually disabling disk cache would be more efficient on some devices
<missMyN900>
HTTP disk cache in a web browser?
<bencoh>
ie the ones with slow IOs, and/or that need to swap a lot
<missMyN900>
but isn't the disk cache stored on the eMMC?
<missMyN900>
or SD card
<missMyN900>
I guess maybe if your internet connection is really fast
<missMyN900>
but the devices with slow IO also don't support LTE (properly) and are stuck with 2.4 GHz-only 11n
<missMyN900>
I suppose it may be worth preserving the option, if only to limit wear on the SD card
<buZz>
/var/lib/ofono has two directories named after my IMSI
<buZz>
with different contents?
<buZz>
ah, thats also where 'tx_queue' was stored, which keeps SMS that werent transmitted? :D
<buZz>
i noticed one inside, catted it, it got sent right after, file disappeared :)
<buZz>
hmm, i wonder if i should just remove all those files and reboot it
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<missMyN900>
Wizzup: no, volume has never worked on the Pinephone. Even the status menu volume slider does not work. Pavucontrol is the only option.
<missMyN900>
Wizzup, uvos: it is triggering HIM (specifically with the volume up key on the Pinephone) that has regressed since Dec 2021 (I basically did not touch the Pinephone between then and this month)
<missMyN900>
do I need to restart anything or reboot
<missMyN900>
btw, sorry for the interruption but uvos asked me to debug this days ago
<humpelstilzchen[>
yes it is a good idea to reboot. I recommend against a manual restart of hildon. Had no good experience with that...
<humpelstilzchen[>
also it might be a good idea to add the beowulf-devel repository. Wizzup: how big is the difference between both for pp?
<missMyN900>
I just don't want it to break stuff honestly :(
<missMyN900>
I am happy that my PP is finally somewhat usable
<missMyN900>
I am actually using it quite a lot for browsing now instead of my iPad
<missMyN900>
before that was simply too painful
<missMyN900>
uvos__: by the way, are you saying that qtwebbrowser is in the Devuan Chimaera repos? It is not in the Bullseye/11 repos on my desktop...
<missMyN900>
did ML upstream it?
<missMyN900>
or wait you said it uses Qt features, right
<missMyN900>
sorry
<missMyN900>
anyway, it is probably better to wait for the switch to Chimaera
<missMyN900>
that will be a really good time for browsers on ML then as netsurf-gtk 3.10 will also become available!
<missMyN900>
I actually discovered recently that netsurf-gtk does appear to have some kind of touch support as I can drag the page to scroll on my Debian desktop
<missMyN900>
humpelstilzchen[: it does not affect the volume displayed in pavucontrol at all
<missMyN900>
nor does it affect the smplayer volume
<missMyN900>
I guess you just need devel for this
<missMyN900>
humpelstilzchen[: what is the general difference between 'regular' and devel? I mean aside from Pinephone specific stuff?
<humpelstilzchen[>
I have no overview on this. I just found out in february that PP works much better with -devel
<missMyN900>
but is it for the OS itself or apps only?
<missMyN900>
extras-devel?
<missMyN900>
like what repo is it specifically the devel version of?
<missMyN900>
uvos__: I was able to trigger the bug again by rotating the screen (that often seems to trigger it). Tried xset dpms force on multiple times to no effect
<norayr>
> missMyN900 wrote:
<norayr>
> norayr: btw, weren't you thinking of getting another ML device?
<norayr>
hey, yes. you have suggestions?
<norayr>
missMyN900: i was answering your question.
<norayr>
yes, maybe it makes sense to package netsurf, till we are not on the release which contains it.
<norayr>
Wizzup: how did u generate a tor url which starts with maemo? (:
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<uvos>
missMyN900: its a bug in lima then, or maybe hildon-desktop
<uvos>
please kill hildon desktop next time
<uvos>
missMyN900: no its not, i packaged it and added it to leste
<uvos>
its not in any other repos
<uvos>
please do as i say wrt debugging steps wrt vol buttons
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<norayr>
Wizzup, ok, i found eschalot.
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<uvos>
missMyN900: btw firefox has full mobile/touch support
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<missMyN900>
norayr: yes, I was checking out the Droid Bionic the day before yesterday, I think it was
<missMyN900>
and found brand new ones for 50 USD!
<missMyN900>
if you are importing from the US, you might as well pay a little bit more to get a new one
<norayr>
actually if i found cheap devices, i know about 3-5 people, i would want to present the phone with leste.
<missMyN900>
speaking of the wiki, I edited the wiki yesterday to reflect that smplayer is in the Devuan repos
<missMyN900>
and that FoxtrotGPS has been tested (by me :) )
<missMyN900>
since smplayer is on the wishlist
<norayr>
i just realized we don't have a simple camera to test it. but there should be one in debian repos. maybe cheese. or there was something like glucview.
<missMyN900>
uvos: how does its camera compare with the N900 camera?
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<missMyN900>
maybe the phosh camera has been upstreamed already?
<missMyN900>
but it has been fixed in newer versions
<missMyN900>
it the post says that there indeed is no oem unlock in North American models
<missMyN900>
so it is true what I said
<uvos>
all mapphones except xt91x are also bootloader locked with no way to unlock
<uvos>
dident stop us
<missMyN900>
still, I would not mind buying a mapphone without cellular but it is another device to care for
<missMyN900>
and I am worried about the battery because I have not had good experiences at all with my i515 (Verizon Galaxy Nexus) and BB Z10
<missMyN900>
both of which I bought used for about $20
<norayr>
i have some crypto anarchist friends who live in rural russia. but they only own computers, because they don't trust phones.
<norayr>
ml would be a good choice for them to stay connected.
<norayr>
even without gsm/3g, only by using wifi.
<norayr>
just after the war started, one of those came for a couple of days to armenia, to try to open a bank account, but i had no device to give them at time.
<norayr>
won't send the device, need to give from hand to hand. so next time i see them. if i have the devices.
<norayr>
maybe indeed, bionic is a good device for a present. especially if the battery is easily replacable. nokia n9 looks cooler, but the battery is a problem.
<missMyN900>
they are smart people ;)
<missMyN900>
I would definitely go for a Bionic
<norayr>
do you aware if the battery in bionic can be easily replaced, by opening a cover?
<uvos>
it has a removable battery
<uvos>
but good luk finding one thats in good shape
<uvos>
they stoped makeing them in 2014
<norayr>
btw, it's interesting, i see that lagrange gemini client crashes on droid4 often, but is very stable under pinephone. probably it is not tested well on 32bit
<uvos>
d4 is mutch better
<norayr>
systems.
<uvos>
since it has screw terminals
<norayr>
uvos, but those screw terminals is such a problem for me.
<uvos>
how so?
<norayr>
the screws on mine are not in good shape. every time i am afraid i won't be able to use them again.
<norayr>
then... i used to carry second battery with n900 and swap.
<uvos>
they are just m1.5 screews
<uvos>
iirc
<uvos>
you can just buy them
<norayr>
with droid it is a problem to unscrew and screw every time.
<norayr>
okay. didn't think of it.
<norayr>
and when my battery dies and i need to put it to external charger
<norayr>
i need to unscrew and screw again. (:
<norayr>
what about droid3? i just like how it looks more.
<uvos>
same as bionic
<norayr>
so droid4 is the most powerful and modern?
<uvos>
out of which devices?
<uvos>
bionic and d4 are 90% the same
<uvos>
d3 has less ram and no lte
<uvos>
d4 has best combination of features
<missMyN900>
uvos: I saw a Mugen for the Atrix 2, which seems to be the same phone for a different carrier