<sicelo>
I think your repositories aren't setup correctly. E.g. do you have the -devel repository enabled?
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<buZz>
hmmf, i think my d4 lost capability of receiving SMS ? :(
<buZz>
hmm, well, i know for a fact i didnt receive some SMSs , but booting to android does not make em come in , so it seems, leste did receive then, but didnt add them to the database
<xmn>
Sometime they get stuck, at least on the pinephone they did.
<xmn>
So you would need to send a flush type of cmd to the modem I think.
<xmn>
I may be remembering this wrong, it's late :) or earlier ... hmm
<buZz>
i discovered you can send SMS with '*0#' as start txt, and it will send a delivery report to your phone
<buZz>
just sent myself one in android , arrived, didnt get report, powered off, rebooted to leste, refreshed icd2 to get 2G and operator name in statusmenu, and the delivery report came in
<buZz>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Wizzup>
yes, this can happen with the ofono bug
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<Wizzup>
going to see if I can get my pinephone keyboard to work again
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: (and others ofc) please upgrade and test when have some spare time
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<_uvos_>
norayr: i would only buy a d3/m3 if a d4 is unobtanium
<_uvos_>
its case is slightly nicer (not as nice as d1/2) and its a bit smaller for same screen size
<_uvos_>
other than that its just worse than d4
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: wait did you add haze?
<Wizzup>
I see XMPP (haze) and Jabber (gabble)
<Wizzup>
it doesn't work and hangs the status dialog
<Wizzup>
dialog, and then the status applet, I think
<Wizzup>
hm nvm
<Wizzup>
it doesn't work though
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: I suppose a sip plugin could be interesting too, although we'll have to do a lot of work to just support the existing plugins already
<Wizzup>
since xmpp can also make calls
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<Wizzup>
norayr: ok, I am close to figuring out how to add privs in jenkins per project...
<missMyN900>
sicelo: I need to enable devel for hildon-connectivity-mobile? I guess I will pass then...
<Wizzup>
norayr: done
<Wizzup>
missMyN900: yeah, for now that is still the case
<missMyN900>
:(
<missMyN900>
I don't really want to ruin my current setup with experimental stuff, to be honest
<norayr>
yay
<norayr>
will start building maefat then.
<norayr>
hopefully will ping you in a couple of days for more repos.
<missMyN900>
Wizzup: by the way, have you had a chance to look into the volume up issue on the Pinephone?
<Wizzup>
norayr: sorry it took this long
<norayr>
thank you!
<missMyN900>
also, based on my testing smplayer is currently the best multimedia solution on Maemo Leste
<norayr>
i am very motivated to bring more software from the old ones.
<missMyN900>
the GUI is great on the Pinephone at least
<norayr>
and i am pushing two of my friends to do more, to port from qt4 to qt5 and so on.
<missMyN900>
much better than VLC
<missMyN900>
it can use both mplayer and mpv backends
<missMyN900>
smplayer is also a good music player if you use the "open directory" feature
<norayr>
i have another photography related app i probably should package.
<missMyN900>
I tried mopidy with mobile and iris but it sucks compared to smplayer
<norayr>
by the way, on photography. was n900 camera access somehow specific to the device?
<norayr>
or apps just read from /dev/vide0 if it is available.
<norayr>
i mean are there chances that apps like blessn900 may work on other devices?
<Wizzup>
camera access is there if there are drivers, and the access is through v4l
<missMyN900>
norayr: it had an amazing camera for sure :)
<Wizzup>
missMyN900: re: volume up, not yet
<norayr>
yay, great. i realize most of our leste supported devices don't have camera support in kernel.
<Wizzup>
missMyN900: can you file a github issue for these things? (assuming uvos didn't say it's not a bug)
<Wizzup>
norayr: right
<Wizzup>
missMyN900: yeah openmediaplayer would be nice too
<missMyN900>
Wizzup: I mean, it used to work in Dec 2021, it's a regression
<missMyN900>
until then I can wholeheartedly recommend smplayer
<Wizzup>
missMyN900: ok, maybe file an issue then please :)
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: wait, what hangs?
<freemangordon>
yes, I will add sip too
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: install telepathy-haze and libpurple0
<Wizzup>
log in hangs
<freemangordon>
yes, I see it
<freemangordon>
(rtcom-accounts-ui:25996): rtcom-accounts-WARNING **: 22:28:53.204: create_account_cb: account could not be created: Protocol 'jabber' does not have parameter 'resource'
<freemangordon>
going to fix that
<Wizzup>
haze params are different I think
<freemangordon>
they are just a subset IIUC
<freemangordon>
but lemme check
<Wizzup>
they have to map to purple params somehow
<norayr>
i love xmpp too much. aaand it hides my ip from libera team.
<buZz>
those evils!
<norayr>
do i need to install additional packages to be able to test xmpp ot maemo? please print a list of new packages to install in the announcement.
<norayr>
buZz: i have nothing against them. just like to feel better that way.
<Wizzup>
norayr: it's not ready yet
<Wizzup>
give it a week
<norayr>
Wizzup: no build button. maybe i have no rights for that build?
<norayr>
do you see the build button?
<Wizzup>
I think I did
<Wizzup>
let me check
<norayr>
thank you.
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: for some reason I cannot connect to conversations.im without checking ignore-ssl-errors
<freemangordon>
that's weird
<freemangordon>
otherwise I get "You need a client that supports x:data and CAPTCHA to register" if I try to register :D
<missMyN900>
norayr: what is maefat? Is it FAT fs related?
<Wizzup>
norayr: doe sit work now
<Wizzup>
weird, my pinephone doesn't see any APs on wifi
<Wizzup>
but wpa supplicant does run
<xmn>
yeah I can't use my hotspot from my n900 with my PP if I'm using manjaro. I think it does work on mobian. So os support likely matters even for seemly simple thing (I know it's not really simple-ish :D).
<freemangordon>
ok, blah.im seems to work just fine (no ignore-ssl-errors is needed)
<freemangordon>
bot haze and gabble are happy with it
<freemangordon>
*both
<Wizzup>
:)
<Wizzup>
xmn: we use moian kernel though
<xmn>
yuppers
<xmn>
which is why it's strange
<xmn>
perhaps a new bug on the mobian side?
<Wizzup>
it worked at home a few days ago
<Wizzup>
not sure
<Wizzup>
maybe it's not just calibrated properly
<buZz>
or different countrycode?
<buZz>
for wifi freqs?
<missMyN900>
I have had no issues with WiFi on my PP
<Wizzup>
yeah, maybe something like this
<Wizzup>
ok, time to head home, tomorrow is association day :)
<missMyN900>
I am thinking we should modify qtwebbrowser to make it a true ML browser
<missMyN900>
the nice thing is, it uses QtWebEngine from the repositories so we don't have to worry about security etc
<missMyN900>
we can modify the browser as much as we like
<missMyN900>
it won't incur any additional maintenance costs
<Wizzup>
possible, or perhaps firefox..
* Wizzup
afk
<missMyN900>
well, if it can be done purely with extensions, then, yes
<missMyN900>
I don't think it would be a good decision to modify the Firefox code base
<missMyN900>
but yeah, if somebody wants to work on extensions, that's fine with me, of course
<missMyN900>
but I have some Qt/QML experience and none with browser extensions
<missMyN900>
so I am more interested in trying to mod qtwebbrowser a bit
<missMyN900>
nice thing about QML and JS in Qt is that you don't even have to rebuild anything ;)
<xmn>
I feel like love or hate em, firefox still has some great thing about it, including being an alternative to chrome/webkit.
<xmn>
But I'm no dev in that sense so happy with what ever is stable and works.
<missMyN900>
xmn: I definitely am worried about the lack of competition
<xmn>
^
<missMyN900>
but I don't think that ML can realistically do something about that with limited resources
<missMyN900>
ML needs to go with whatever provides a decent experience with little effort
<missMyN900>
and QtWebEngine provides taht
<missMyN900>
on my desktop I use lots of different browsers for different purposes
<xmn>
b2gOS has found a new maintainer, so maybe that will help build a new mobile vers of firefox ... or not. :)
<missMyN900>
IMHO, the smartest thing for ML would be to:
<xmn>
maintainer = forked
<missMyN900>
1. mod Firefox with extensions
<missMyN900>
2. mod qtwebbrowser
<missMyN900>
3. patch (and preferably upstream) netsurf-gtk for touchscreen support if necessary
<missMyN900>
then there will be 3 good options for ML users
<missMyN900>
with limited effort/resources required by devs
<xmn>
I think for mobile linux in general, we need a browser that is super fast, protected privacy and doesn't suck up all the energy from your device.
<missMyN900>
those browsers can provide that :)
<xmn>
Whatever code base that is probably really doesn't matter to end users
<missMyN900>
yes, but it does matter for the devs ;)
<xmn>
of course
<missMyN900>
maintaining a browser should not suck up all the dev resources
<xmn>
I'm not against your suggestions, btw.
<xmn>
But as a community. we need to get behind maybe 2 codebase and work on that.
<missMyN900>
I mean, I am not sure we can really speak of a mobile linux community
<missMyN900>
way to fragmented
<missMyN900>
*too
<missMyN900>
sure, maybe ML could borrow the Glacier browser or Angelfish
<missMyN900>
but Angelfish sucks currently
<missMyN900>
I think the SFOS browser relies on an ancient version of Gecko
<missMyN900>
that is exactly what ML should avoid
<xmn>
somehow angelfish has legs, I use mainly FF on my PP even with the drain
<missMyN900>
I am personally not very enthusiastic about Phosh, so I would not be about their browser either
<xmn>
sfos is gecko, not sure why they don't update. Likely cause mozila doesn't
<missMyN900>
I am guessing that sxmo probably uses surf2
<missMyN900>
because it takes a lot of resources probably ;)
<xmn>
yup
<missMyN900>
that is exactly why qtwebbrowser with QtWebEngine (already in the Devuan repos) is a good option
<xmn>
I'm cool with phosh and it feel closest to maemo to me in SOME ways.
<xmn>
once they get more gestures it should help it feel better
<missMyN900>
ML can piggybaca off of Devuan (and Devuan piggybacks off of giant Debian)
<xmn>
:)
<xmn>
I'm gonna piggy back to some work. fun chatting with you. I'm around
<missMyN900>
it sure was :)
<Wizzup>
yeah we don't want browser to suck up dev resources, which is why we don't mostly work on it atm
<missMyN900>
Wizzup: I am thinking about making some basic mods to qtwebbrowser
<missMyN900>
right now I need to manually go to a search engine page, for example
<Wizzup>
yeah, some renders also look a bit weird
<Wizzup>
go for it
<missMyN900>
well, but that should be a QtWebEngine problem
<Wizzup>
I think it's nice since it's quite snappy
<Wizzup>
I don't mean web page renders
<Wizzup>
I mean the ui itself renders with some awkward borders for me
<missMyN900>
oh
<missMyN900>
not sure I can help with that
<missMyN900>
my Qt/QML experience is pretty basic
<Wizzup>
we'll see, start modding :)
<Wizzup>
same
<Wizzup>
well, if you start to like it, OMP was building
<Wizzup>
but it needed qml work..
<Wizzup>
(OMP = openmediaplayer)
<missMyN900>
oh great
<Wizzup>
as in, it wasn't usable without that
<missMyN900>
where can I find the qtwb QML files in ML?
<missMyN900>
I wrote a basic SFOS app years ago
<missMyN900>
and then ported it to Qt5 desktop
<missMyN900>
have also done some basic HTML5 app dev
<missMyN900>
(without any frameworks)
<Wizzup>
I'd look at the extras orga and find the browser repo there