00:26 <buZz> i dont think there's a survey?

00:26 <buZz> but n900 is nice hw, just ... kinda a raspi1

00:26 <buZz> droid4 is nicer screen, lighter device, more ram, faster cpu, nicer keyboard, wayyyyy cheaper device (as long as you can find em)

00:27 <buZz> hell, even a new pinephone + keyboard case could be cheaper than a n900 :)

02:16 <xmn> I still daily drive my n900. But the keyboard was falling apart on one of them. Key actually fell off mid call .. lol :(. On my backup keyboard now.

02:18 <xmn> Plus tmob is shutting down 3g for realz this time in US :(. so either my Pinephone will be my daily (doesn't seem likely, for critical use) or very likely I will drop sailfish on a used android :(.

02:18 <xmn> One day a true replacement for my n900 will arrive. fxtec is pretty close.

02:19 <xmn> just needs a pen, heh

06:22 <sicelo> Mainline situation on fxtec is still not very clear iirc

07:29 <enyc> Ooooo wasn't aware of fxtec -- it it just costly as niche matter?

13:48 <buZz> xmn: imho, 2G is totally fine :)

15:32 <buZz> wooo, retrained battery in my second droid4 , its claiming 1047mAh now , (~1day)

15:32 <buZz> earlier trained it by playing video on loop, told me 700mAh :(

15:33 <buZz> really wonder what values i'll get once the batterydetection finally works or defaults to a actual droid4 battery :P

15:48 <buZz> enyc: afaik its by XDA-developers and wont get very mass produced

16:33 <freemangordon> HI there. Did I miss something?

17:47 <xmn> buZz 2g would be find but I think they are or have turned that off for consumers already as well. We'll see.

18:06 <buZz> xmn: -quite- sure they wont ever turn it off

18:06 <buZz> so many GPS trackers, security systems, datamonitoring that depends on it

18:06 <xmn> yeah

18:06 <buZz> >200km range so you dont need 93845738947598347873489579 celltowers like 5G

18:07 <xmn> will see, I remember someone else saying something similar. Using a business iot sim plan or something over 2g even 3g. But removing it from most consumer plans.

18:31 <buZz> xmn: welp i have a 4G simcard on derpcheap network

18:31 <buZz> 2G works very well :) they even still have Edge enabled! i was amazed

18:47 <buZz> hmm weird, was getting some kinda locales error, dpkg-reconfigure locales , generated all, made default en_US.utf-8 , still not fixed?

19:11 <xmn> buZz nice. I will still of course have 4g on my Pinephone. But hoping that I don't have to retire my n900 just yet.

19:13 <buZz> :) well, for irc 2g is more than plenty

19:13 <buZz> and even webbrowsing is totally fine

19:14 <xmn> yeah. Well it is nice to have 4g for connect your laptop. But hey I.m happy if it still works :)

19:15 <buZz> :) havent figured out how to tether through leste on droid4 yet, thusfar its been enough of a modern linux for my needs :)

19:19 <xmn> :)

20:37 <buZz> how does a n900 do with modern websites?

20:42 <sicelo> Badly

20:43 <sicelo> I think it's reasonable to conclude N900 cannot browse the web anymore. Just got to limit its use to other linuxy stuff

20:44 <bencoh> pretty much yeah

20:44 <bencoh> except for those lightweight jsfree sites

20:45 <bencoh> (or the google mobile/light/whatever version that google returns for some sites on low-spec mobiles)

20:48 <buZz> welp, droid4 with qtwebbrowser is pretty spiffy

21:10 <sicelo> I plan to work on the bluetooth next (N900), and maybe have a go at voice calls one more time