<Wizzup>
Danct12: eventually we'll also make it work through the application manager
<uvos>
ui-fonts seams like a not so great name for that package
<uvos>
hildon-ui-fonts or leste-ui-fonts or something would be better
<uvos>
"ui-fonts" is way to generic an prone to a namespace clash
<Wizzup>
agreed
<buZz>
jesster1234: hi :)
* buZz
was promoting maemo leste a bit in ##freenode today
* jesster1234
waves
<Wizzup>
:)
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<parazyd>
Wizzup: on the VM, I updated _only_ ke-recv via apt and it went fine.
<parazyd>
With apt update && apt install ke-recv
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<uvos>
i proubly tires to use some serivce that has not finished starting up yet and crashes du to insufficant error checking
<uvos>
this can happen with mce and gconf btw
<uvos>
mce will just segfault if gconf is not available because of insufficant error checking
<uvos>
(this is fixed in my branch)
<uvos>
so it would only happen if you upgrade some other deamon at the same time....
<parazyd>
Quite possible, yeah
<parazyd>
The thing with the reboot is that dsme tries to spawn it 10 times and then quits
<uvos>
right
<parazyd>
Maybe there should be some interval between retries
<uvos>
mabye
<parazyd>
Right now I think it's just without any waiting
<uvos>
like the 10 one being 30 sec later
<parazyd>
Yeah like incremental
<uvos>
dsme should just try and respawn and and then give up and notify the user really
<uvos>
the reboot behavior is more detrimental than benefical
<uvos>
as seen offten by us allready...
<parazyd>
I agree, and it's kinda risky
<uvos>
right it breaks apt
<parazyd>
For now it just renders unconfigured apt
<parazyd>
But it could be worse
<uvos>
right
<parazyd>
It is a "clean" reboot, so files should sync, but still...
<uvos>
yeah
<parazyd>
And no-lg-reboots doesn't help here btw.
<uvos>
there are several reboot reasons yeah
<uvos>
lg file just stops one
<uvos>
not the hartbeat one either
<parazyd>
mhm
<uvos>
anyhow btw i have ke-recv half implemented in mce, since they both do mostly the same stuff (abstract some kernel interfaces, they even do the same ones partially) i can just finish that and then we can drop ke-recv
<uvos>
btw regarding ke-recv it dose these things: 1. sense for keyboard slide state 2. usb state and 3. memory state
<uvos>
1. mce allready dose too 2. i need to finish implmenting 3. ke-recv code dosent work on mainline kernels and in sfos they implmented this interface as a mce module we can mostly just cp
<parazyd>
There's a bit more, but yeah
<parazyd>
AFAIK it also does OTG and camera
<parazyd>
And there was some FAT implementation, but I think that isn't necessary anymore.
<uvos>
right btw im talking about the kec-recv binary not the repo, that contains a bunch of other tools
<parazyd>
ok
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<jesster1234>
so maemo being permanately landscape
<jesster1234>
seems like the perfect distro for the pinephone keyboard when that comes out
<uvos>
jesster1234: leste can do portrait
<uvos>
or even portait only if you ajust /usr/share/hildon/transtiton.ini
<jesster1234>
ah
<uvos>
its just the n900 thats perma landscape
<uvos>
(because of bugs in its pvr driver)
<jesster1234>
also the keyboard loks like `onboard` is that just a coincince?
<Pali>
freemangordon: you can answer that we can do full board conversion after u-boot reduce size of usb dm code and also after reduce size of all dts components as it currently is too big and cannot be enabled for n900
<Pali>
freemangordon: also you can write that because full board conversion is not simple task and reviewing/merging simple patches for n900 took more than year, it means that full board conversion would not be merged into u-boot sooner than in the end of year 2022
<Pali>
it is simple reality
<Pali>
that discussion does not make sense
<freemangordon>
mhm
<Pali>
either they want to remove n900 board code and do everything for it
<freemangordon>
I'll ask
<Pali>
or want to move forward, and the easiest way is by simple steps
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<Pali>
like that your patch
<Pali>
small patch = less review = sonner merge
<Pali>
thats is why I really like your patch!
<Pali>
it is elegant solution for this issue, how to migrate code to USB DM without need to rewrite everything
<Pali>
based on fact how much time took reviewing and merging last n900 patches, I'm very sceptical that full board migration patches would be merged sooner that in 12 months
<Pali>
plus, this work is non-trivial and I guess developing and testing would take lot of time too
<Pali>
so 1.5 year horizont is really real
<Pali>
... but the main question is, why to do full board conversion at all?
<Pali>
this is not required, and there is no plan to remove boards without dts
<Pali>
so why it should be requirement for n900? and why now?
<Pali>
also... I do not think that your patch is hack, it is designed in the same way like other uboot drivers with those #ifdefs
<freemangordon>
yeah
<freemangordon>
Pali: I can't do much more, if my last mail don't convince them... well,I guess I'll vent a bit, but not sure it will help
<Pali>
freemangordon: thanks for this!
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