<Wizzup>
we could perhaps allow customising it or something
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: how is that helpful? do you think about srv modules perhaps?
<Wizzup>
no,sec
<Wizzup>
(need 10 mins or so)
<meldrian>
So, it 'seems' that besides the sim slot the sd-slot @ my n900 is broken too. Any chance installing maemo leste via usb?
<Wizzup>
meldrian: hm...
<Wizzup>
yes, but it's non trivial
<Wizzup>
you can load u-boot via 0xFFFF
<Wizzup>
and then perhaps load some image from emmc that you then use for flashing emmc
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: so I am not sure if srv modules can be chained, and some modules we might want to run before setting the IP on the interface
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: srv_provider is always after IP is set
<uvos__>
meldrian: also clean the contacts maybe, from memory the n900 sdcard slot is a bit wierd in that its not self cleaning, beacuse the contacts are simply pressed down instead of sliding across eatch other
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: do you have anything particular in mind?
<freemangordon>
IOW: what is the usecase?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: one example is a tails like tor setup where you don't want any packages beyond say icmp and dhcp to leave the device, and everything else goes through tor
<Wizzup>
s/packages/packets/
<Wizzup>
that requires setting up iptables rules before ip is set to up
<Wizzup>
we could just always load the module and make it mostly a no-op, of course
<freemangordon>
and what is the issue if all IAPs share common list of modules?
<freemangordon>
yeah, as you said
<Wizzup>
no issue, we can just do that
<freemangordon>
it makes no difference if it will be loaded once or many times, actually memory wise it should be cheaper to load every module for every iap - no additional lists.
<freemangordon>
I would say - keep it as it is unless we see we cannot implement something without this functionality
<freemangordon>
I guess it will require UI as well
<Wizzup>
yes, but the same is true for providers
<Wizzup>
I am still trying to get a grasp of the some of the provider specific func, but we're getting there
<freemangordon>
Wizzup: agree, I guess we shall discuss how is it supposed to work UI wise
<Wizzup>
I did some exploration on the existing parts in connui, but there is more to do
<freemangordon>
right, there is a place for improvement
<freemangordon>
and not everything is clear
<freemangordon>
It is still not clear to me how do you select SP for a particular IAP
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: it's listed as a separate network in the scan
<Wizzup>
my current dummy service provider 'matches' with all wlan and dummy aps
<Wizzup>
so you'll see the twice the amount of networks
<Wizzup>
of course, we probably don't want it this way
<freemangordon>
mhm
<Wizzup>
the identify function could check if the iap is known and has the service enabled in gconf, for example
<Wizzup>
in any case, progress
<Wizzup>
brb
<Danct12>
sorry for being offtopic, but i just compiled kernel 5.11 for my n900, it seems like it does boot as the kb backlight turns on but display doesn't work and the bl is on
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<uvos>
sicelo: ^^^
<uvos>
i think some issue existed with 5.11
<uvos>
maybe try 5.13
<uvos>
also keeping the kernel working on n900 is sufficantly on topic
<stan>
has anyone scripted something to quickly reconnect wlan when connection is lost?
<Wizzup>
no, because that's something that if considered a bug would be better to resolve in icd2, e.g. a lower reconnect timer
<Wizzup>
that said, python-conic is in the repo, so if you find python easy, it sohuld be trivial to script
<uvos>
Wizzup: btw did you ever kick the icd pluginns?
<Wizzup>
uvos: no, not yet, freemangordon is back now, so he might be able to help
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: this is not a theoretical double free, I hit it
<Wizzup>
(of course I was experimenting with services, but still)
<Wizzup>
s/services/providers/
<bencoh>
Wizzup: wait, wth is that "vim" icon doing there?
<bencoh>
is it a unicode emoji?
<Wizzup>
bencoh: no, this is me testing custom service icons
<Wizzup>
service providers*
<Wizzup>
you can imagine it could be a tor icon
<bencoh>
neat
<bencoh>
right, tor ...
<Wizzup>
I had tor installed but it did not ship with an icon
<bencoh>
I have to admit I like where this whole project is going :)
<Wizzup>
me too, I just hope we get where we want to be within a reasonable amount of time :-D
<bencoh>
wait, do we have a system-wide torrify-like?
<Wizzup>
bencoh: it's been worked on, it's not there yet
<bencoh>
is it "just" setting a socks proxy for everything that supports it? or something iptables-enforced?
<Wizzup>
I think the thought is to have a way to control the tor service as optional useful thing, but also to have a iptables enforced mode, depending on what the user picks
<Wizzup>
parazyd has a better sense of it currently
<freemangordon>
bencoh: that's why 'slightly less than' ;)
<bencoh>
:)
<Wizzup>
bencoh: looks like this actually expects a 16bit X
<Wizzup>
I'd have to open the code to see why
<Wizzup>
(going for a swim now first :-))
<bencoh>
(enjoy!)
<stan>
did you make sailfish port for droid4 bencoh?
<stan>
sailfish has a nice qt irc client
<bencoh>
I only remotely had a quick look at sailfish years ago, so ... nope
<bencoh>
it might run on maemo, assuming it's qt5-based (it most probably is)
<bencoh>
except for the silicate qml components ... iirc they make heavy use of those
<stan>
irssi works well with droid4 keyboard, so ok
<bencoh>
:)
<stan>
thank you for the onscreen buttons uvos. i was hoping they could be used to send 'Esc' to SDL. Right now that's a thorny problem, getting our mapped keys to sdl1.2 apps (they are really not designed for translated keys)
<bencoh>
I wonder how hexchat would perform
<stan>
On the other hand, for good playability i am finding most sdl games really need work to be playable anyway, so it's not a problem to change the input from sym->sym to sym->unicode, and then the Esc works
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<stan>
i am currently looking how to patch the n900 sdl hildon animation actor to work in 32bpp mode
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<stan>
powered usb hub is quite nice on droid4 also. can feed droid4 with power, hook up storage, keyboard, mouse
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<uvos>
stan: which hub works for you
<uvos>
stan: i have one that dosent work on mapphones for some reason (no android either)
<uvos>
works elsewhere
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<uvos>
the funding thing is nice but im a bit worryed it could distract from the "basic functionality" stuff
<uvos>
but no matter
<stan>
i don't know uvos, i can get a picture of the only IC on the board
<stan>
Bus 001 Device 020: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Hub
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<stan>
i get both power injection and peripherals in the '3' position uvos
<bencoh>
uvos: well, telepathy is apparently part of the funding plan, so ... I'd say it's pretty "basic functionality stuff"
<bencoh>
as in, assuming we eventually want a working phone/communication handheld
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<bencoh>
Am I the only one with otg / usbnet issues on droid4?
<uvos>
bencoh: no i have otg issues
<bencoh>
ah
<uvos>
bencoh: so some devices work
<uvos>
and others dont
<bencoh>
here it shows up as connected on host, and disappears after a second or so
<uvos>
that might be power
<uvos>
check dmesg
<bencoh>
power?
<uvos>
d4 can provide like 200mAh i think
<uvos>
if the device uses or negotiates more it gets cut off
<uvos>
lots of devices just negotatie the full 500mA because they are stupid
<bencoh>
oh mybad, I actually meant: when using droid4 as a usbnet device, that was silly of me
<uvos>
Note: mA not mAh above
<uvos>
oh
<uvos>
you said otg
<bencoh>
(when connecting it to a computer)
<bencoh>
yeah I know, my bad :)
<uvos>
usbnet no idea i dont use that
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<stan>
cheapo fast ethernet works too: asix 1-1.3:1.0 eth0: register 'asix' at usb-musb-hdrc.2.auto-1.3, ASIX AX88772 USB 2.0 Ethernet, 00:01:0a:0a:c4:7
<Wizzup>
uvos: yeah, it should not distract too much from basic stuff, I try to watch for that
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<stan>
did fxtec send you a pro1 Wizzup ?
<stan>
i wonder if them getting linux on that snapdragon means leste could run on some other, prhaps cheaper qualcomm phones
<stan>
on the othr hand perhaps we should take 'qual' as a warning
<stan>
Wizzup: does fxtec have opengl or gl-es for pro1 under linux?
<stan>
i think the best homebrew portable right now would be build with khadas vim3
<stan>
5-20v DC-in, open source drivers, decent cortex a72/73 performance
<Wizzup>
last time I checked mainline did not have display yet
<stan>
ty
<Wizzup>
might have changed
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<stan>
would be fun to someday have OS on emmc and swap cards with just data
<stan>
i understand the sense in booting os from sdcard now though
<stan>
it's great to backup 'known good working state' with
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<bencoh>
stan: all of those sound good, as long as you're fine with mixed modem/cpu
<bencoh>
otherwise, you're stuck with n900/droid4/pyra
<bencoh>
(and pinephone/librem, mybad)
<stan>
what is mybad?
<bencoh>
("my bad" for forgetting about pinephone and librem)
<stan>
it would be a fun phone name :)
<bencoh>
:]
<stan>
i can get a green light hooking up usb power to the board with attached screen, but without bottom of case
<stan>
it won't start though
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<stan>
tightvncserver runs fine on droid4
<uvos>
stan: please do not veer far off topic; mapphones can boot leste from emmc just copy leste to some emmc partition and change boot.cfg, cpcap wont release the cpu from resett unless it has a battery, mapphones can boot with just the bare mainboard and a battery but takes a while because mbm waits a while for the display to work.
<stan>
thanks!
<uvos>
and then times out and boots anyhow if there is no display
<stan>
boot.cfg is in /boot/boot on sdcard. does kexec look for boot.cfg on emmc as well ?
<uvos>
kexecboot looks for boot.cfg on every partiton it can mount
<uvos>
so yes
<stan>
that's great
<uvos>
please read the documentation
<stan>
if booted from emmc, can sd cards be unmounted/removed/remounted while system is running?