07:57 <galad> can't blame apple for wanting all the parameters to be known without parsing the video, and that's how almost every AVC video in mp4 was made too. I wonder why FFmpeg decided to switch to hev1, even when every encoder already provide a complete set of parameters

07:58 <galad> anyway, quicktime/avfoundation can't playback avc3 in mp4 either

09:24 <JEEB> galad: https://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commit;h=1d9014f0b008485eac4c19d5f5e11ede59237167 or so

09:26 <JEEB> the order originally committed in 2013 was https://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commit;h=53f903b7c5427cb18659f7775714e860c1c5fc39

09:27 <JEEB> and then nowadays you have the list in movenc etc, originally copied from these locations

09:28 <JEEB> in other words in 2014 a person decided that since we can't by default make sure that we follow rules of hvc1, so hev1 got prioritized